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brendanb438 03-18-2007 09:38 PM

Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
I was one of the many [censored] who signed up for the upfront bonus with PSO for FT back in the day. I am now looking for rakeback with FT. I don't think PSO can help me at all so I am looking for an alternate source if this is even possible.

I plan to play 2000+ $20 to $30 SNGs + cash NL games a month and I won't play at FT unless I can earn rakeback for this type of play.

PM if you can help me out, and only from trusted sites if this is even possible.

-Brendan

steel108 03-19-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
Ummmmmmmmm.... you can't have another account. Any affiliate that offers you something is being kind of shady since you did sign up with another affiliate. Maybe you could teach your mom to play poker ;P

brendanb438 03-19-2007 02:08 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
Yeah I have kind of noticed, asking if this is possible from trusted sites has brought out some interesting PMs from some shady people trying to pose as rakeback affiliates. You know who you are, one guy tried to recommend the unmentionable for both Party and Bodog to me instead. I already forwarded screenshots to the appropriate people.

I am not interested in breaking FT's T&Cs, I wanted to play under my own information with a legit Affiliate, but this clearly isn't an option.

-Brendan

Auren 03-19-2007 03:25 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
Try mailing to Full Tilt. If you are not planning to get involved in any kind of shady deal anyways then telling Full Tilt that you will quit if you don't get rakeback can't hurt you. Just state it politely and tell how you feel it is unfair that you have to pay more rake than others and thus you will change site. I am 99% sure it will not help but it won't hurt you either and might make Full Tilt think their policy.

Suigin406 03-19-2007 08:21 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
i doubt ftp will do much for u in this situation as many, many others have complained about not getting RB...through ftpdoug, they stated they might try to work something out for people who missed out on RB...

KEW 03-19-2007 11:07 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
Have you contacted PSO???? I thought I read somewhere that once you reached a certain MGR(over the initial clearing rate) they would/may convert you to a RB account(still through them) if you asked...It may have been another affiliate and I do not remember where I read it...Worth a try..

kcheel 03-19-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
As it stands right now, you are basically out of luck as for legit options to get RB at FT. I am in the same boat, as are many others.

You would think that as many of us there are (ones who signed up via PSO for points) that FT would gladly convert us to a rakeback account with PSO. Right now, most of us do not play at FT at all since we receive no rakeback.

All of the reasons that people mention as to why FT would not do this do not apply.

- We are not asking to switch affiliates. PSO offers rakeback through FT already.

- We are willing to receive a negative MGR to offset the initial payment that PSO received for our signup, so nobody loses off of that.

It would be a win/win situation for everyone. Lots of players get rakeback and bring their play to FT, FT gets more action, PSO makes money from rake.

Of course, this is too simple to actually ever happen.

briton 03-19-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
Can my wife have a Full Tilt Account with rakeback???

pipedreamz 03-19-2007 03:43 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
i would email FT first, b/c they will see it is from the same IP

KEW 03-19-2007 08:39 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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As it stands right now, you are basically out of luck as for legit options to get RB at FT. I am in the same boat, as are many others.

You would think that as many of us there are (ones who signed up via PSO for points) that FT would gladly convert us to a rakeback account with PSO. Right now, most of us do not play at FT at all since we receive no rakeback.

All of the reasons that people mention as to why FT would not do this do not apply.

- We are not asking to switch affiliates. PSO offers rakeback through FT already.

- We are willing to receive a negative MGR to offset the initial payment that PSO received for our signup, so nobody loses off of that.

It would be a win/win situation for everyone. Lots of players get rakeback and bring their play to FT, FT gets more action, PSO makes money from rake.

Of course, this is too simple to actually ever happen.

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IMO this sounds like an issue with PSO not FT...If PSO offers RB they can easily convert you to a RB account(and recieve RB payments) under them(PSO)...This is not changing affiliates and PSO would still be the one receiving your revenue..I do not believe this breaks any affiliate contract...

Once again I would say contact PSO..

napkins 03-20-2007 12:28 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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As it stands right now, you are basically out of luck as for legit options to get RB at FT. I am in the same boat, as are many others.

You would think that as many of us there are (ones who signed up via PSO for points) that FT would gladly convert us to a rakeback account with PSO. Right now, most of us do not play at FT at all since we receive no rakeback.

All of the reasons that people mention as to why FT would not do this do not apply.

- We are not asking to switch affiliates. PSO offers rakeback through FT already.

- We are willing to receive a negative MGR to offset the initial payment that PSO received for our signup, so nobody loses off of that.

It would be a win/win situation for everyone. Lots of players get rakeback and bring their play to FT, FT gets more action, PSO makes money from rake.

Of course, this is too simple to actually ever happen.

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IMO this sounds like an issue with PSO not FT...If PSO offers RB they can easily convert you to a RB account(and recieve RB payments) under them(PSO)...This is not changing affiliates and PSO would still be the one receiving your revenue..I do not believe this breaks any affiliate contract...

Once again I would say contact PSO..

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Already tried they said FTP won't allow it.

Pokeraddict 03-20-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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Can my wife have a Full Tilt Account with rakeback???

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Yes.

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You know who you are, one guy tried to recommend the unmentionable for both Party and Bodog to me instead.

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Feel free to forward this or any other spam to me.

kcheel 03-20-2007 09:41 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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Can my wife have a Full Tilt Account with rakeback???

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Yes.



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Really? For some reason I didn't think they allowed 2 accounts from one address/IP. I am fairly happy at Stars but still want to try playing at FT some and see which I like better.

pipedreamz 03-20-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
unmentionable BODOG? they aren't outlawing RB are they?

Bobo Fett 03-20-2007 02:39 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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unmentionable BODOG? they aren't outlawing RB are they?

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I don't think they've ever allowed advertising of it. From the FAQ on this forum:

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What is not to be posted in this forum:

Affiliate links
Portal/affiliate spam
Comments that are negative towards affiliates without backing the post up with facts
Threads involving Party Poker or Bodog rakeback. However discussions of these affiliate program are welcome as long as they do not pertain to rakeback.
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Also, see the very top sticky.

demon102 03-20-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
so there is no way to get legit rakeback on ftp with an existing account?

PokerRakeRewards 03-20-2007 04:15 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
No, afraid not.

rdinho10 03-21-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
and when i closed my ft account a month ago?

Bobo Fett 03-21-2007 03:16 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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and when i closed my ft account a month ago?

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Irrelevant.

pipedreamz 03-21-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
i would suggest you

1) gather a list of players with active accounts on FT, but are not using them because they do not have RB.

2) add up all of their monthly MGR's.

3) petition FTP with this info, telling them how much revenue you would bring them by converting your accounts over.

worst case scenario, they say no.

SGspecial 03-22-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
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i would suggest you

1) gather a list of players with active accounts on FT, but are not using them because they do not have RB.

2) add up all of their monthly MGR's.

3) petition FTP with this info, telling them how much revenue you would bring them by converting your accounts over.

worst case scenario, they say no.

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6 months ago, maybe this works. Do it today, and they laugh.

pipedreamz 03-22-2007 11:14 AM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
what has changed in 6 months? please have an intelligent response.

kcheel 03-22-2007 04:14 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
Due to lack of sites for US players to play at. They figure most will play there anyway even without rakeback. When they wouldn't switch mine, I just canceled/suspended the account.

Will consider reopening if they ever offer some sort of method to get it. For now, play at nothing but Stars.

pipedreamz 03-22-2007 05:41 PM

Re: Signed up for FT through PSO originally, now wanting Rakeback.
 
that's where you are wrong. those that know about RB are going to see that stars is there best site if they can't get it from others.


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