How much trickles down to actual members of indian tribes?
 

So I was playing poker in Pompano (Fl) the other day. The usual suspects at the table.

Mr.Iknoweverythingabouteverything chimes into the conversation about revenue sharing from the Seminole casinos. He said that each member of the tribe receives $7,000/month. All children born to tribal parents automatically start receiving the $7k/month.

This does not sound plausible, but he did talk with a lot of conviction. Is this possible? If so am I able to change my name back to RunningDeer?

Oh yeah, and what's the deal with 5-10 NL, $100 max buyin?

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Oh yeah, and what's the deal with 5-10 NL, $100 max buyin?

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Read the legislation forum or google. It's the maximum buy in allowed in a NL game in Florida. LOL @ anyone who would play 5/10 NL with 10bb's.

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It depends upon the tribe. There are CA tribes that distribute far far more than 7k/mo/member.

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It depends upon the tribe. There are CA tribes that distribute far far more than 7k/mo/member.

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So sick!!! Good for them.

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This does not sound plausible, but he did talk with a lot of conviction. Is this possible? If so am I able to change my name back to RunningDeer?


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If you are going to continue playing poker why not RunningWell?

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Each member of the tribe that owns Pechanga casino here in SoCal is making $30,000/month.

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This does not sound plausible, but he did talk with a lot of conviction. Is this possible? If so am I able to change my name back to RunningDeer?


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If you are going to continue playing poker why not RunningWell?

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I am trying to pass muster with the tribal elders, dont want it to sound too made up.

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This does not sound plausible, but he did talk with a lot of conviction. Is this possible? If so am I able to change my name back to RunningDeer?


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If you are going to continue playing poker why not RunningWell?

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I am trying to pass muster with the tribal elders, dont want it to sound too made up.

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First you will have to take off your shoes and go into the forest without food or water.

Then your will have to meditate until your nature guide appears to you and conveys wisdom to you in your visionquest.

Then you can have your car back.

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This does not sound plausible, but he did talk with a lot of conviction. Is this possible? If so am I able to change my name back to RunningDeer?


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If you are going to continue playing poker why not RunningWell?

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I am trying to pass muster with the tribal elders, dont want it to sound too made up.

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First you will have to take off your shoes and go into the forest without food or water.

Then your will have to meditate until your nature guide appears to you and conveys wisdom to you in your visionquest.

Then you can have your car back.

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You will meet the fonz and sing and dance with trees

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Hmm ... I'm 1/16th Native American (some tribe (which one I don't know) in Cass County, Missouri).

Perhaps it's time I do some digging to find the name (and tribe) of my Great, Great, Grandmother (on my mother side), who was full blood Native American and see if I can get some money! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Time magazine article

I read the above article a few years ago and found it quite interesting. Seems that most of the Native Americans get shafted on the casino deals, while a few (along with their backers) make out like bandits.

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Time magazine article

I read the above article a few years ago and found it quite interesting. Seems that most of the Native Americans get shafted on the casino deals, while a few (along with their backers) make out like bandits.

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That article is 5 years old. Some of the tribes that I am familiar with have increased their payouts per member 10 fold since that time. Certainly, though, most tribes do not have casinos and there is no inter-tribal revenue sharing for the most part (this is actually a thorny inter-tribal political issue).

I hope you guys are joking about getting on the tribal roll. Some of the comments in this thread are not appropriate.

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i've always wondered why the richer tribes (with casinos) don't help out the other tribes. think i read somewhere the poorest areas of the usa are indian reservations

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This may sound like a joke, but when nyt published a story about tribe behind foxwoods, most of the major players were very dilute native american.

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I am told conflicting stories in this subject. Some people are convinced that the tribes are keeping all of the money tax free.

The other story is that big companies actually own some of these casinos, hiding behind the Native American guise, and many of the Natives are kept poor

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I hope you guys are joking about getting on the tribal roll. Some of the comments in this thread are not appropriate.

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Did someone say appropriate? What does that word mean?

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i've always wondered why the richer tribes (with casinos) don't help out the other tribes. think i read somewhere the poorest areas of the usa are indian reservations

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I've always wondered why the richer people in America (with bank accounts and investments) don't help out the other people. I think I read somewhere that teh poorest areas of the USA are places where people don't have any money.

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Why would they help them out? The Cherokee nation is a sovereign nation. Why would they give a crap about some other sovereign nation in Montana?

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Off-topic...

I've always thought it was funny that the Indians are now selling firewater to Pale Face [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Well the corporations behind the casinos are represented by members of the Sueyou tribe. Personally, I am just happy they are not giving money to Albert Belle or the rake would be higher.

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Hmm ... I'm 1/16th Native American (some tribe (which one I don't know) in Cass County, Missouri).

Perhaps it's time I do some digging to find the name (and tribe) of my Great, Great, Grandmother (on my mother side), who was full blood Native American and see if I can get some money! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I would hope you're kidding, but most tribes have no smaller than 1/8th blood quantum to become a member, and even then some tribes require a parent to be a member. There are some that have 1/16th, but I can guarantee that the ones giving it 7k+ a month are NOT those tribes.

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Hmm ... I'm 1/16th Native American (some tribe (which one I don't know) in Cass County, Missouri).

Perhaps it's time I do some digging to find the name (and tribe) of my Great, Great, Grandmother (on my mother side), who was full blood Native American and see if I can get some money! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I would hope you're kidding, but most tribes have no smaller than 1/8th blood quantum to become a member, and even then some tribes require a parent to be a member. There are some that have 1/16th, but I can guarantee that the ones giving it 7k+ a month are NOT those tribes.

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Actually I'm not kidding (about being 1/16th native american), but I was in regards to Searching purely for money reasons. In reality the only reason why I've actually been searching, is for Genology reasons (only).

As for being 1/8th, well my Mom is, and she's still alive at a spritely 71 years of age. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

However, I hit a roadblock a while back, in regards to my Geneology search for my (Maternal) Great Grandfather, James Dixon who was 1/2 Native American from Cass County Missouri (it was his mother, who was full Native American), and my Maternal Grandmother (his Daughter) passed away about 3 years ago.

I actually read though someplace, that some tribes recognize as little as 1/32nd Native American (which then my son would qualify as well), but I've really never actively looked into it any further than that.

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Each member of the tribe that owns Pechanga casino here in SoCal is making $30,000/month.

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And those lovely tribal elders are kicking out long time members so that they can increase the average take for those remaining. Los Angeles Times had an in depth article last Sunday on it.

I doubt anyone will be let in to the tribes if the tribe has a successful casino. This type of stuff is happening all over the place.

And in California, the tribes said they would "help out" other California tribes that were unable to open a casino due to their location (middle of nowhere). They are giving almost nothing.

Greed can be an ugly thing.

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If i am black do i get anything? but what if my grandparents were slaves?

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If i am black do i get anything? but what if my grandparents were slaves?

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That would make you over 100 years old.

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I have a friend of a friend who is part of a tribe in CA. I don't know how much he gets each month but he is able to afford a lot of drugs and support himself without working.

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Here is a link to an article that was published in The New Times....a South Florida area publication....you will be shocked I'm sure...

New Times - Seminole Hard Rock

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i've always wondered why the richer tribes (with casinos) don't help out the other tribes. think i read somewhere the poorest areas of the usa are indian reservations

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Before whites came, Native American tribes fought each other. There are many tribes that were bitter enemies with other tribes. Some of that still exists today and may be a reason tribes do not share with each other.

While some Native American tribes have prospered with Indian Gaming there are indeed many reservations that are very very poor. I live on the edge of a reservation and I can guarantee that I have never seen anything anywhere else in the United States that comes close to some of the horrible conditions on some Indian reservations.

And Yes, Some of the comments are insensitive, rude and inappropriate.

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Time magazine article

I read the above article a few years ago and found it quite interesting. Seems that most of the Native Americans get shafted on the casino deals, while a few (along with their backers) make out like bandits.

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Anyone have the second part to this article?

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