SNG Planet 2007 Sit N Go Survey
 

Any comments on this survey generally, and in particular how the ROIs compare to those suggested in our FAQs?

StarTracker survey

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Sorry, but cannot seem to get the actual link in my post. Cut & paste the following:

http://www.sitandgoplanet.com/sitandgo/SNG_Survey.html

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Ah. now it works!

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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say this is not spam. Consider yourself warned, however.

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This survey is online since a few month and it looks interesting.

I don't think it's a spam.

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I think the ROI numbers in the survey are probably a better representation of reality than what's in the STTF FAQ.

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This is not spam but simply a survey I recently came across on Sit & Go Planet. Makes rather depressing reading though!

If in any doubt, you can access it through the StarTracker web-site.

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yeah those 2+2 moderators are morons

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I think the ROI numbers in the survey are probably a better representation of reality than what's in the STTF FAQ.

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yeah those 2+2 moderators are morons

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Well, the FAQ states an ROI for a "very good player," whereas this survey states the observed median ROI value for players with over 1k games. It's not that I'm doubting that a "very good player" at any given level could achieve the long-term ROI stated in the FAQ. I'm just saying that when a random player asks "What should I expect for ROI at the 119s," I think 3% is much better number to give them than 8%.

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Good find! It's pretty eye opening stuff. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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That startracker site is WAY off.

I had pokertracker go weird on me when requesting tourney histories so I accidentally entered the tourney number into the "request last XX tourneys" box and I got an email that said, "You've requested your last 6,334,204 tourneys but you've only played 5,772. Here are the results for your last 5772 tourneys." I'd say less than 100 are MTTs so I have about 5700 SnGs on stars. Sharkscope shows 4600 and StarTracker shows a pitiful 1216.

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Maybe we should ask sharkscope to do a similar survey?

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Is there a sampling bias? I remember Prophecy screwing up because of the way it recorded tournaments and making everyone's win rates too high. Sharkscope very occasionally misses things (like less than 1% if at all), but those misses seem to be random.

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That startracker site is WAY off.

I had pokertracker go weird on me when requesting tourney histories so I accidentally entered the tourney number into the "request last XX tourneys" box and I got an email that said, "You've requested your last 6,334,204 tourneys but you've only played 5,772. Here are the results for your last 5772 tourneys." I'd say less than 100 are MTTs so I have about 5700 SnGs on stars. Sharkscope shows 4600 and StarTracker shows a pitiful 1216.

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Was this during the survey period (Dec2006 to July2007)?
If so, then pity the survey is not more comprehensive.

However, 1216 is a pretty good sample. Do you have any idea how close their sample results were to your actual results?