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apefish 05-09-2007 12:15 AM

Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
This question has always baffled me. I really don't know the right play here.
He talks trash at his tables and any competent player pegs him as a fish within a few hands against him.
He doesn't care about learning how to play as much as he just wants to play big pots and gamble.
Short of giving you all his screen name (which I won't right now because he's a buddy first still) what the hell do I do?
His game has massive holes and he has no bankroll management.

Stop caring?
Hookers and blow?
Taco Bell run with trip report?

siihp_wrecked 05-09-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
is it FGators or HIV?

its_just_me 05-09-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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Short of giving you all his screen name (which I won't right now because he's a buddy first still)

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will you give us his screenname later??

boomshakalaka 05-09-2007 12:18 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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He doesn't care about learning how to play as much as he just wants to play big pots and gamble.

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k.. he seems happy?

King_S 05-09-2007 12:18 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
call him out on fish play

ShakeZula06 05-09-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
Play him HU and bust him, obv

Conspire 05-09-2007 12:21 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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This question has always baffled me. I really don't know the right play here.
He talks trash at his tables and any competent player pegs him as a fish within a few hands against him.
He doesn't care about learning how to play as much as he just wants to play big pots and gamble.
Short of giving you all his screen name (which I won't right now because he's a buddy first still) what the hell do I do?
His game has massive holes and he has no bankroll management.

Stop caring?
Hookers and blow?
Taco Bell run with trip report?

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In the end its his money, imo he prolly thinks he is good and is making good plays. He has no BR management becuz he doesnt wanna grind, he just wants to go for the big score, so just wait it out and hopefully he will run good and luckbox his way to a big score. HoLLa

Conspire 05-09-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
BTW Hookers and Blow FTW. Taco Bell afterwards.

Gildwulf 05-09-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
Nothing you can really do in this situation. If you tried to teach the fish and he refused then it's his funeral.

You're not his babysitter. And I think it's a little much to stage an intervention unless he's gambling on Daddy's credit cards or is in debt or some similar story.

rubbrband 05-09-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
1)eat a grilled stuffed burrito off a hooker's titty
2)pics
3?????
4Profit?

apefish 05-09-2007 12:26 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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will you give us his screenname later??

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I'm not ruling it out. He's a huge douche to people at times including me.

Yes- he seems happy and that's all that has prevented me from being anything but a cheerleader right now.

Last- he's on a massive heater playing over his roll and I am +EV in prop bets with him so maybe I just ride it out and let him play however he will play.
People are trying to run him over and he never folds anything- so it's rather funny watching all the bad adjustments to his calling station style also.

I guess right now being a buddy> the entertainment factor> the aggravation factor> the fact that he will go busto at some point again and have to ask me for a stake which I will have to decline.

Thanks all.

Teh1337zor 05-09-2007 12:30 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
sn plz

apefish 05-09-2007 12:38 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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1)eat a grilled stuffed burrito off a hooker's titty
2)pics
3?????
4Profit?

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I'm going to change eat to snort and take this approach.


And yes- Gild I came to that realization a while ago. He is certainly playing with money that should matter to him (think really broke/rent/essentials money), but above all it's his money and he can choose to do whatever he wants with it. I tried more than one likely should to help.

Jiggymike 05-09-2007 12:52 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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1)eat a grilled stuffed burrito off a hooker's titty
2)pics
3?????
4Profit?

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I'm going to change eat to snort and take this approach.


And yes- Gild I came to that realization a while ago. He is certainly playing with money that should matter to him (think really broke/rent/essentials money), but above all it's his money and he can choose to do whatever he wants with it. I tried more than one likely should to help.

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Head Asplode.

Obv. the only solution is to take his whole roll HU.

omgitsmatt 05-09-2007 01:47 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1)eat a grilled stuffed burrito off a hooker's titty
2)pics
3?????
4Profit?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to change eat to snort and take this approach.


And yes- Gild I came to that realization a while ago. He is certainly playing with money that should matter to him (think really broke/rent/essentials money), but above all it's his money and he can choose to do whatever he wants with it. I tried more than one likely should to help.

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Head Asplode.

Obv. the only solution is to take his whole roll HU.

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If you take out "likely" there it makes a lot more sense.

Overfloater 05-09-2007 02:23 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
ship him to 5/10nl

Dan87 05-09-2007 02:27 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
my buddy is like this too, he makes a lot of money working (like 400$ a day), then blows lots of it at the tables and on BJ/roulette. I keep telling him he has to tighten up or to play limit where he will lose the money slower, or just paly donkaments, but he doesnt listen.

One time he wanted me to take his money from him and play poker with it, kind of like a staking agreement, because he thought that hed just lose it if he played. I didnt really want to get into that situation

apefish 05-09-2007 02:37 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1)eat a grilled stuffed burrito off a hooker's titty
2)pics
3?????
4Profit?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to change eat to snort and take this approach.


And yes- Gild I came to that realization a while ago. He is certainly playing with money that should matter to him (think really broke/rent/essentials money), but above all it's his money and he can choose to do whatever he wants with it. I tried more than one likely should to help.

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Head Asplode.

Obv. the only solution is to take his whole roll HU.

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If you take out "likely" there it makes a lot more sense.

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I put the likely in there because I'm still not sure if as a buddy I am supposed to continue offering unwanted/heeded help to him.
Yes I should take the likely part out, obv I've done more than a friend is required to.

But I still can't bring myself to take his roll Jiggy, despite him insisting I join his tables.
I probably lose massive BBV points for this. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

DWarrior 05-09-2007 02:39 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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BTW Hookers and Blow FTW. Taco Bell afterwards. Then stop caring.

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sethypooh21 05-09-2007 03:59 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
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Play him HU and bust him, obv

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kyleparks 05-09-2007 04:10 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
i havnt read the rest of this thread but the obvious answer is heads up for rollz.


clean him out then tell him to never play again, cuz he sucks ldo

disasterflop 05-09-2007 04:26 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
play him hu everytime he gets his paycheck 1/2 live in his kitchen. let him burn AND learn.

apefish 05-09-2007 04:48 AM

Re: Buddy is a huge fish but he doesn\'t know it. What\'s my line?
 
I'd have to take a paycut basically to sit with him or schedule my work differently. Not gonna do it for that and many reasons.

On a related note dropping 70 bets shorthanded (averaging around 5-5.5 players) in 250 hands at low limit minbet is fairly standard right?

Now that I put it that way I'm not so sure its a paycut. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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