Bottom set facing tons of action
 

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $330.10
Hero (CO): $590
BTN: $156
SB: $402
BB: $396.50

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $14, 2 folds, BB calls $10

Flop: ($44) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $26</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $75</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $216</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $316.10 and is All-In</font>,

Both players seem relatively tight, have done nothing so far to make me think they are very wild. how deep do you have to be to fold here?

Re: Bottom set facing tons of action
 

175 bb+ , with a strong read imo

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pretty deep...at least 200bb to even think about folding...there are a ton of draws out there, and i think J10 is more likely than JJ or 1010, at least for BB (assuming he would squeeze there at least a decent amount of the time with those hands)

I am def. not folding for 150bb though

Re: Bottom set facing tons of action
 

Stacks are too shallow to fold this, but I wouldn't love getting it in either. Just one of those hands where you shrug your shoulders and stick the money in.

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For 100 bb you don't love getting it in.... lol?

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I don't "love" getting it in, since we're behind a decent amount. I'd get it in because I think it's +EV though. I define "love" in this case as expecting to be ahead a vast majority of the time, I don't think that's the case here.

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If you fold they'll show AJ and KQ

Re: Bottom set facing tons of action
 

big draw, JT, AA/KK, there are too many things tehy can have for you to fold here

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big draw, JT, AA/KK, there are too many things tehy can have for you to fold here

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i agree, but how deep do eff. stacks have to be to muck this?

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snap call. wtf

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you have bb beat here, unless he doesn't squeeze with 1010 or JJ.

UTG range is &gt;JJ and 1010 and youre getting decent odds.


call.

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so we can agree it's not even really a decision with 100bb...

i think it becomes pretty gross at like 200bb.

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i call this fast and i folded a set of sixes earlier...

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big draw, JT, AA/KK, there are too many things tehy can have for you to fold here

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i agree, but how deep do eff. stacks have to be to muck this?

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prob 250+

Re: Bottom set facing tons of action
 

You guys are underestimating how scary UTG's 4 bet is after BB's cold 3 bet. Obviously we're not folding here but I think I'd [censored] my pants if this same action happened with 130bb stacks or more.

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not nearly a fistpump call, but a clear call nonetheless.

at 200bb, id start worrying a little. maybe.

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If your behind so be it. Get it in and get it in fast. Im sure its way plus EV. If you ever wanted to fold then maybe do it when there is no flush draw, but i still probalby don't do it then. GET IT IN!

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You guys are underestimating how scary UTG's 4 bet is after BB's cold 3 bet. Obviously we're not folding here but I think I'd [censored] my pants if this same action happened with 130bb stacks or more.

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you are OVERestimating how often people fold AA.