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recallme 10-16-2007 03:52 PM

I have air here nearly always, right?
 
Villain was pooruser, a good tag. No history between us, but he`s aware that i am active and ablt o make moves


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2208
UTG+1: $2060
Hero: $1970
Button: $3756.50
SB: $2016.35
BB: $2657

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $80</font>, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($190, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $140</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($470, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($470, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $300</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $1090</font>

My line looks so much like a draw/air, right?
Is this a call?

whiffer1983 10-16-2007 04:00 PM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
seems like that, i wooudlnt expect a good hand to chk oop turn with extremely drawy board, his line isnt really repping ne thing, so yeh i'd look it up,

king_of_drafts 10-16-2007 07:09 PM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
don't like preflop, and I think pooruser has 77 or backdoored diamonds a lot of the time here...also I kinda think you should check river.

recallme 10-16-2007 07:13 PM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
Kod, is he really expecting, that i have a hand worth calling a c/r AI. Or is he on the level that he knows that i know my line is weak?

Wouldn`t he bet his backdoor draw on the the turn? That was my thinking.

Snygaard 10-16-2007 07:38 PM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
Looks like exactly 77 or air. He might have went for the c/r on turn with a set and decide to go for another on the river, but it seems unlikely. I also tihnk he would double barrel if he picked up a flush draw on the turn.

ImNotSoGood 10-16-2007 08:14 PM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
I like a fold here against this villain. His line looks a lot like a turned FD/combo draw that was looking to c/r the turn, or possibly a whiffed c/r of a set/straight on the turn.

I don't think he does this with a set on the river too often though, I think he'd just lead the river rather than c/r. He is def. capable of doing it w/ a set/straight though.

I fold here though, I feel like he'd think his line looks like air to you, so he wouldn't be likely to take this as a bluff line. That, the turn check, and river checkraise makes me feel like he has the nuts or close to it very often here.

Edit: If you guys haven't noticed, stacks are really bad for villain to bet a flush draw on the turn.

WelshChip 10-16-2007 09:52 PM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
wtf,

this looks like a hand that missed a turn c/r so c/rs the river. Don't really see hwo it's narrowed down to rivered nut holdings.

r3vbr 10-17-2007 12:01 AM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
Biggest error on the hand: thin valuebet vs. POORUSER? (widely known for his genious plays). Why even play vs. this guy is beyond me

r3vbr 10-17-2007 12:02 AM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
I think now that you bet you gotta call... Reasoning: since he is so good, He knows your exact hand (KQ) and therefore he knows you can't call. So you call.

MixMastaPJ 10-17-2007 01:28 AM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think now that you bet you gotta call... Reasoning: since he is so good, He knows your exact hand (KQ) and therefore he knows you can't call. So you call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Profound

mwalsh2020 10-17-2007 02:16 AM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
INSTA fist pump etc... is that a leak?

bigt439 10-17-2007 03:51 AM

Re: I have air here nearly always, right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
don't like preflop, and I think pooruser has 77 or backdoored diamonds a lot of the time here...also I kinda think you should check river.

[/ QUOTE ]

im okay with all of your post except the pf bit... what are you doing and why do you think that calling some percentage of the time shouldnt be part of our strategy...


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