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Was humorous watching him doing his Tony Romo imitation by playing horribly against a mediocre team but finding a way to win it in the end.

I don't think I've ever seen someone throw 75 passes in a game before, let alone in a driving rain on a muddy field. What is the record for most attempts/completions in a game?

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Most passes attempted in a game: 83 - Drew Brees vs. Wisconsin, 10/10/98 (completed 55).

55 ties the record for most completions, Rusty LaRue vs. Duke 10/28/95 also did it, on 78 attempts.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/foot...ecords_book.pdf

The 2007 version of the record book seems to be missing pages, or else I'd link to that. It might just be my computer though...

http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/...ook/index.html has a link to the 2007 version.

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wilbon's projections on pti were close. he had him going for 600

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that's way too many ints though. is this guy nfl material, i know very little about him

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wilbon's projections on pti were close. he had him going for 600

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The 4 interceptions went for 55 yards, so he actually had 602!

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Colt's thrown 9 INT's in 2 games, right? I think maybe his draft stock will be going down a bit.

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4 INTs in 75 attempts isn't anywhere near bad as 4 INTs would be in most games, lol. Still not good mind you, but at that INT/ATT pace it would take most people two games to throw four picks...

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Product of the system

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probably, but espn seems to be higher on him than they were on timmy chang

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He's leagues ahead of Timmy Chang. 57% career completion rate vs. >70% for Brennan.

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but is he nfl material?

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but is he nfl material?

[/ QUOTE ]Only one way to find out. We'll see how scouts adjust their view on him by draft day. If he goes high still, there's definitely some hope. Any big slippage and very unlikely.

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timmm couch

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he's 19th on Mel Kiper's big board

1. Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville (6-3, 223)
Polished pure passer in the Jim Kelly mold.

2. Jake Long, OT, Michigan (6-6, 320)
Top drawer left or right tackle prospect.

3. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU (6-2, 292)
Disruptive force along the interior.

4. Sam Baker, OT, USC (6-4½, 310)
Exceptional pass blocker with superb technique.

5. Early Doucet, WR, LSU (5-11½, 205)
Super talented, becomes LSU’s go-to option in 2007.

6. Andre’ Woodson, QB, Kentucky (6-5, 232)
Big and mobile with a rocket arm.

7. Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College (6-6½, 320)
Should thrive with move from right to left tackle in 2007.

8. Frank Okam, DT, Texas (6-5, 318)
Great physical ability and overall potential.

9. Keith Rivers, LB, USC (6-3, 233)
Has the skill set to become a super blue chipper.

10. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona (5-11, 183)
Experienced cover man who thrives on a challenge.

11. Chad Henne, QB, Michigan (6-2, 222)
Can make all the throws, but needs more consistency.

12. Dan Connor, LB, Penn St. (6-2½, 231)
Big-play performer who finds the ball.

13. Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC (6-1, 297)
Tampa Bay Bucs style DT with superior quickness and non-stop motor.

14. Limas Sweed, WR, Texas (6-4, 217)
TD-maker who plays fast with pads on.

15. Terrell Thomas, CB, USC (6-0, 200)
Proven cover corner who is both steady and reliable.

16. DJ Hall, WR, Alabama (6-2½,, 189)
Big-play wideout who has shown improvement every year with the Crimson Tide.

17. Bruce Davis, LB, UCLA (6-3, 241)
Combo DE/OLB, ideal as a pass rusher off the edge in a 3-4 scheme.

18. Chris Long, DE, Virgina (6-4, 282)
3-4 DE with great bloodlines who understands leverage and uses his hands as well as any D-lineman in the country.

19. Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii (6-2, 198)
Thrives in QB friendly system with his quick release and above-average arm.

20. Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC (6-4, 268)
Pass rusher who needs to build on strong second half from last season.

21. Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose St. (5-11½, 193)
Ball-hawk with great anticipation and awareness.

22. Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville (5-10½, 175)
Underrated, bringing speed, toughness and great hands to the WR spot.

23. Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson (6-6, 335)
This should be the year the talented bookend maximizes his potential.

24. Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky (6-1½, 195)
Athletic, versatile and tough with a high concentration level.

25. Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton, (6-5½, 290)
Intriguing Division I-AA prospect due to his size, athleticism and natural pass-rush ability.

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The QB projection system (the one touted by FO) likes him a lot. Plenty of starts and a very high completion %.

And 4 picks isn't THAT bad when you throw the ball 75 times.

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Can we please start discussing how good Brian Brohm is going to be? I have been hearing about this guy for awhile. Is he the second coming of Peyton Manning or what?

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Also, not one RB in the top 25? WTF?

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Also, not one RB in the top 25? WTF?

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That's a list of the top 25 senior prospects. It's not that surprising that no RB's are on there since few of the best RB prospects stay for their senior year.

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Kiper has Choice as the best Sr RB and I'm not surprised to see him below these 25 players.

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How is Matt Ryan not on that list? Matt has to be ahead of Henne and Brennan on the QB front, right?

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How is Matt Ryan not on that list? Matt has to be ahead of Henne and Brennan on the QB front, right?

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yeah, that list i posted was an old one. here is his current list

1. Glenn Dorsey Sr. DT LSU
2. Jake Long Sr. OT Michigan
3. Sedrick Ellis Sr. DT USC
4. Chris Long Sr. DE Virginia
5. Matt Ryan Sr. QB Boston College
6. Brian Brohm Sr. QB Louisville
7. Dan Connor Sr. LB Penn State
8. Andre' Woodson Sr. QB Kentucky
9. Mike Jenkins Sr. CB South Florida
10. Keith Rivers Sr. LB USC
11. Ali Highsmith Sr. LB LSU
12. Sam Baker Sr. OT USC
13. Gosder Cherilus Sr. OT Boston College
14. Kentwan Balmer Sr. DT North Carolina
15. Tony Hills Sr. OT Texas
16. Chevis Jackson Sr. CB LSU
17. Quentin Groves Sr. DE Auburn
18. Lawrence Jackson Sr. DE USC
19. Early Doucet Sr. WR LSU
20. DeJuan Tribble Sr. CB Boston College
21. Kellen Davis Sr. TE Michigan State
22. Darrell Robertson Sr. DE Georgia Tech
23. Frank Okam Sr. DT Texas
24. Shawn Crable Sr. DE/OLB Michigan
25. Limas Sweed Sr. WR Texas

brohm's #'s are astounding, but i assume his rank is suffering b/c louisville isn't even close to being as good as advertised. brennan has fallen out and isn't currently in mel's top 5 (ryan, brohm, woodson, booty, henne)

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scouts inc's top 32. the stars indicate eligible underclassmen


1. Darren McFadden* RB Arkansas 99
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
4. Calais Campbell* DE Miami 97
5. Jake Long OT Michigan 97
6. DeSean Jackson* WR California 97
7. Derrick Harvey* DE Florida 96
8 Sedrick Ellis DT USC 96
9. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 96
10. Ryan Clady* OT Boise St. 96
11. Andre Woodson Jr. QB Kentucky 95
12. Kenny Phillips* S Miami 95
13. Samuel Baker OT USC 95
14. James Laurinaitis* ILB Ohio State 95
15. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 94
16. Keith Rivers OLB USC 94
17. Malcolm Jenkins* CB Ohio State 94
18. Gosder Cherilus OT Boston Coll. 94
19. Vernon Gholston* DE Ohio State 94
20. Malcolm Kelly* WR Oklahoma 94
21. Justin King* CB Penn State 93
22. Rey Maualuga* ILB USC 93
23. Adarius Bowman WR Okla. State 93
24. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 93
25. Early Doucet III WR LSU 92
26. Quentin Groves DE Auburn 92
27. Michael Oher* OT Mississippi 92
28. Ali Highsmith OLB LSU 92
29. Reggie Smith* CB Oklahoma 92
30. Jonathan Stewart* RB Oregon 91
31. Fili Moala* DT USC 91
32. Frank Okam DT Texas 90

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I didnt realize Chris Long was projected to be that good. Im not buying all this Matt Ryan hype either, I dont think he is that good.

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no Mike Hart anywhere? hm

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hart has flags for his size (5'9 200) and durability, but size seems to be the main issue.

edit: fwiw, he is ranked as the top senior rb

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Also, not one RB in the top 25? WTF?

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That's a list of the top 25 senior prospects. It's not that surprising that no RB's are on there since few of the best RB prospects stay for their senior year.

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Was about to say. I didn't see Calais Campbell on there and thought Mel Kiper automatically went insane.

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Scouts inc's has darren mcfadden and jonathan stewart as the only rb's projected to go in the first round

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The QB projection system (the one touted by FO) likes him a lot. Plenty of starts and a very high completion %.

[/ QUOTE ]You are both right and wrong here IIRC. Lewin's system of projecting QB's like Brennan IF AND ONLY IF he is taken in the first two (maybe 3?) rounds. He doesn't make projections for other players. Essentially FO says they like Brennan if he's a highly drafted propsect according to NFL scouts.

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but is he nfl material?

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Won't really know from his stats.

See Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer...

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You can do projections for quarterbacks based on their games started and their completion percentage.

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You can do projections for quarterbacks based on their games started and their completion percentage.

[/ QUOTE ]David Lewin does not do this. Or, not exactly. How high scouts rank person is relevent. Just because you start a lot of games and complete high % of passes doesn't mean much if scouts think you suck.

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but is he nfl material?

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Won't really know from his stats.

See Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer...

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Ryan Leaf 56% completion rate his final year... hmmm maybe we should have known from his college stats.

Tim Couch would be a better example of a huge bust with great college stats.

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You can do projections for quarterbacks based on their games started and their completion percentage.

[/ QUOTE ]David Lewin does not do this. Or, not exactly. How high scouts rank person is relevent. Just because you start a lot of games and complete high % of passes doesn't mean much if scouts think you suck.

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I was responding to Bernie, who was using example of Ryan Leaf and Rick Mirer.

Furthermore, Colt Brennan is obviously thought of highly by scouts.

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wtf is Arizona doing.

THREE SCREENS SHORT OF THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE?

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but is he nfl material?

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Won't really know from his stats.

See Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer...

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[/ QUOTE ]

Ryan Leaf 56% completion rate his final year... hmmm maybe we should have known from his college stats.

Tim Couch would be a better example of a huge bust with great college stats.

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Yeah, Tim Couch is a good example. 67.1% completion percentage, and he started nearly every game of his college career.

It was obviously a good system (hello Mike Leach). Hawaii's system is obviously QB friendly, but given how much better Chang is than Brennan you have to wonder just how friendly it is.

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but is he nfl material?

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Won't really know from his stats.

See Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer...

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[/ QUOTE ]

Ryan Leaf 56% completion rate his final year... hmmm maybe we should have known from his college stats.

Tim Couch would be a better example of a huge bust with great college stats.

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Yeah, Tim Couch is a good example. 67.1% completion percentage, and he started nearly every game of his college career.

It was obviously a good system (hello Mike Leach). Hawaii's system is obviously QB friendly, but given how much better Chang is than Brennan you have to wonder just how friendly it is.

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What?

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He meant Brennan>Chang.

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He meant Brennan>Chang.

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ok

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Wouldn't Brennan have been better served coming out last year, or not?

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no Mike Hart anywhere? hm

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Makes sense. He isn't a great NFL prospect. Two knocks: his size and his top speed. I personally doubt his size will be much of a liability, but his top gear is. He does have great vision, never fumbles, and has a lot of power for a little guy, plus he has "intangibles", in that he is a hard-working dedicated mofo. So I dunno, 3rd/4th/5th round?