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iggymcfly 09-23-2007 04:36 AM

NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
OK, you know the drill by now. Post your own rankings or comment on someone else's. Here are mine from 1-32:

1. LSU
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Oregon
6. Florida
7. Ohio State
8. Texas
9. California
10. Boston College
11. South Carolina
12. Kentucky
13. Rutgers
14. Georgia
15. Wisconsin
16. Cincinnatti
17. USF
18. Missouri
19. Clemson
20. Miami(FL)
21. Arizona State
22. Penn State
23. Alabama
24. Virginia Tech
25. Tennessee
26. Michigan
27. Nebraska
28. UCLA
29. Kansas
30. Mississippi State
31. Michigan State
32. Purdue

NozeCandy 09-23-2007 04:50 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
I don't care if PSU is 3-1 and Michigan is 2-2. There is no way in hell they should be ranked in front of UM when UM is starting a freshman at QB and still beat them. PSU beat 3 of the worst teams in D1.

Arnold_O 09-23-2007 05:09 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1. Florida
2. LSU
3. Ohio State
4. USC
5. Oklahoma
6. West Virginia
7. Oregon
8. Texas
9. California
10. Boston College
11. South Carolina
12. Kentucky
13. Rutgers
14. Georgia
15. Wisconsin
16. Cincinnati
17. USF
18. Missouri
19. Clemson
20. Miami(FL)
21. Arizona State
22. Penn State
23. Alabama
24. Virginia Tech
25. Tennessee
26. Michigan

Number27 09-23-2007 09:32 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1. LSU
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Florida

6-119: Everyone else.

ahmngrn30 09-23-2007 09:50 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I don't care if PSU is 3-1 and Michigan is 2-2. There is no way in hell they should be ranked in front of UM when UM is starting a freshman at QB and still beat them. PSU beat 3 of the worst teams in D1.

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Do you think Appalachian State should be ranked ahead of Michigan then? Or how about the 'Cuse over Louisville?...

If Penn St and Mich played right now on a neutral field, Penn St would be favored.

capone0 09-23-2007 10:13 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Cal should be in front of Texas.

Louisville is pretty terrible, imo.

You do realize that Michigan owns PSU right. They've won the last 9 or 10 matchups.

Gregatron 09-23-2007 11:00 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Top 10

1t) LSU A&M
1t) USC
3) Oklahoma
4) Florida
5) tOSU
6) California
7) Oregon
8) Boston College
9) South Carolina
10) West VA

lastchance 09-23-2007 11:18 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1) USC
2) LSU
3) Oklahoma

4) West Virgnia
5) OSU
6) Florida
7) Oregon
8) Texas
9) Boston College
10) California

Gregatron 09-23-2007 11:19 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
I am not sure why people are ranking Texas so high.

johndenver 09-23-2007 12:14 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I am not sure why people are ranking Texas so high.

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probably because they are undefeated and are only 2 yrs removed from being national champions

Austiger 09-23-2007 12:31 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1USC
2LSU
3Oklahoma
4WVU
5Florida
6Cal
7Ohio St
8Oregon
9Kentucky
10Wisconsin

ClarkNasty 09-23-2007 01:00 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Mizery is not 14+ slots better than Illinois, who almost beat them despite a -3 TO margin and their starting QB missing most of the game.

pwnsall 09-23-2007 01:53 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1. LSU
2. OU
3. USC
4. West Virginia
5. Oregon
6. Ohio State
7. Florida
8. California
9. Boston college
10. Kentucky
11. Cincinnati
12. Arizona State
13. Texas
14. Rutgers
15. Wisconsin
16. USF
17. South Carolina
18. Clemson
19. Kansas
20. Missouri
21. Georgia
22. Miami fl
23. Alabama
24. Va Tech
24. Purdue
25. Penn State
26. Nebraska
27. MSU
28. UCLA

MyTurn2Raise 09-23-2007 02:56 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1. LSU
2. OU
3. USC
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. Ohio St
7. Cal
8. Clemson
9. Texas
10. Oregon


Honorable mentions: Mizzou, Arizona St, V Tech, BC, Wisconsin, South Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Georgia, Purdue, Cincinnati, UCLA
Never getting ranked: Rutgers...what a joke

Riverman 09-23-2007 03:19 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Texas and Wisconsin are both way overrated. Why do people think Colt McCoy is good?

Case Closed 09-23-2007 03:23 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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Texas and Wisconsin are both way overrated. Why do people think Colt McCoy is good?

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The name.

iggymcfly 09-23-2007 03:24 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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1. Florida
2. LSU
3. Ohio State
4. USC
5. Oklahoma
6. West Virginia
7. Oregon
8. Texas
9. California
10. Boston College
11. South Carolina
12. Kentucky
13. Rutgers
14. Georgia
15. Wisconsin
16. Cincinnati
17. USF
18. Missouri
19. Clemson
20. Miami(FL)
21. Arizona State
22. Penn State
23. Alabama
24. Virginia Tech
25. Tennessee
26. Michigan

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There's no minimum number of teams to rank. You could just do a Top 5 instead of ranking 5 teams and then copying my rankings the rest of the way down.

tdarko 09-23-2007 03:27 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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1. LSU
2. OU
3. USC
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. Ohio St
7. Cal
8. Clemson
9. Texas
10. Oregon


Honorable mentions: Mizzou, Arizona St, V Tech, BC, Wisconsin, South Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Georgia, Purdue, Cincinnati, UCLA
Never getting ranked: Rutgers...what a joke

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myturn,

Everyone will always disagree w/ some part of a list but I actually agree completely w/ your 1-7.

I think the list is tough from there b/c teams are close. I do think Texas shouldn't be in the top 10 though.

ClarkNasty 09-23-2007 03:32 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
I can only surmise that people putting USC worse than #2 simply aren't watching the games and are trying to be "smarter than conventional wisdom".

MyTurn2Raise 09-23-2007 03:59 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I can only surmise that people putting USC worse than #2 simply aren't watching the games and are trying to be "smarter than conventional wisdom".

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nope...I've watched every snap of SC this year....LSU and Oklahoma are better

NozeCandy 09-23-2007 04:15 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I don't care if PSU is 3-1 and Michigan is 2-2. There is no way in hell they should be ranked in front of UM when UM is starting a freshman at QB and still beat them. PSU beat 3 of the worst teams in D1.

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Do you think Appalachian State should be ranked ahead of Michigan then? Or how about the 'Cuse over Louisville?...

If Penn St and Mich played right now on a neutral field, Penn St would be favored.

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You really think they would still be favored after their performance yesterday? Morelli is straight up awful and Michigan's home field isn't intimidating by any means. Yesterday told us way more about Penn State than the first three laughers.

MyTurn2Raise 09-23-2007 04:16 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
The Illini-Penn St game might say alot as well. If PSU doesn't come with a better game plan, they'll lose that game also.

ClarkNasty 09-23-2007 04:21 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
I don't know how we'll ever know about OU since they play a total of zero difficult games all year. I would hope that if USC and OU both end up undefeated you flip them based on SOS alone, because it's not close between the two.

BigSoonerFan 09-23-2007 07:01 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I don't know how we'll ever know about OU since they play a total of zero difficult games all year. I would hope that if USC and OU both end up undefeated you flip them based on SOS alone, because it's not close between the two.

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I can't disagree. I actually haven't seen Texas play this year (except for just a few plays), so I don't know how good they are. Considering what everyone says about them, it appears that OU will not have a tough game until their bowl game. If OU is a legitmate top 5 team, they should run the table and be in the NC game. I just hope we don't have any glaring weaknesses that haven't been exposed yet, and don't forget the lack of experience at QB.

BigSoonerFan 09-23-2007 07:03 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Who is the biggest disappointment this season, Louisville or Michigan? Both dropped from high rankings to no votes in two weeks, but you could argue that Louisville has dropped lower overall (losing to an 0-3 Syracuse team).

TruFloridaGator 09-23-2007 07:37 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I don't know how we'll ever know about OU since they play a total of zero difficult games all year. I would hope that if USC and OU both end up undefeated you flip them based on SOS alone, because it's not close between the two.

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I can't disagree. I actually haven't seen Texas play this year (except for just a few plays), so I don't know how good they are. Considering what everyone says about them, it appears that OU will not have a tough game until their bowl game. If OU is a legitmate top 5 team, they should run the table and be in the NC game. I just hope we don't have any glaring weaknesses that haven't been exposed yet, and don't forget the lack of experience at QB.

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As long as 1 of UF/LSU and USC don't.

iggymcfly 09-23-2007 08:14 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
I really don't see USC running the table. They have to play at Oregon, at Cal, and at Arizona State. That's two top ten teams and another in the Top 25, all on the road. I think they drop at least one of those (probably Oregon), although if they win out, I agree they have to be in the national title game no matter who else is undefeated.

MyTurn2Raise 09-23-2007 08:16 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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I don't know how we'll ever know about OU since they play a total of zero difficult games all year. I would hope that if USC and OU both end up undefeated you flip them based on SOS alone, because it's not close between the two.

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obviously

my polls are extremely fluid and teams can/will move down/up even if they won the previous game

Mediocre_Player 09-23-2007 08:51 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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Who is the biggest disappointment this season, Louisville or Michigan? Both dropped from high rankings to no votes in two weeks, but you could argue that Louisville has dropped lower overall (losing to an 0-3 Syracuse team).

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I think this one should be 100% louisville.

Sure Mich was ranked #5, but I can't recall reading any site/mag that had them as a serious threat to get into the BCS game .... a 1 loss B10 team this year wouldn't get the nod over a 1 loss SEC/PAC10 team, and while UM was ranked high, so were PSU, Wisc, OSU so the chances of running the table were remote.

UM still has a good chance to fight their way into the Rose Bowl and end up in the top 10, and even if not, a Jan 1st game is very reachable .... I can't see Louisville getting into a Jan 1st game at this point

Mediocre_Player 09-23-2007 08:56 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Here is my top 10.

USC
LSU
OU
WVU
FLORIDA


Oregon
Cal
Texas
OSU
Bost College

teams that excite me: USF, Kentucky
teams that tilt me: Wisconsin, 'Bama, Rutgers (nice 5 game pre-season)

Needle77 09-23-2007 09:02 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1. LSU
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. Ohio State
7. Texas
8. Oregon
9. Rutgers
10. Wisconsin
11. South Carolina
12. California
13. Georgia
14. USF

jstnrgrs 09-23-2007 09:53 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
The AP should switch South Carolina and Georgia, and drop Penn state from the top 25. Other than that, they are okay.

MyTurn2Raise 09-23-2007 11:43 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
Penn St will be gone after next week

TruFloridaGator 09-23-2007 11:48 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
1 LSU
2 USC
3 OU
4 UF
5 WVU
6 Cal
7 OSU
8 Oregon
9 BC
10 UT

TruFloridaGator 09-23-2007 11:50 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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1. LSU
2. OU
3. USC
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. Ohio St
7. Cal
8. Clemson
9. Texas
10. Oregon


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Why do you like CU so much? Pretty interesting game this weekend for them though, maybe we'll know more.

TruFloridaGator 09-23-2007 11:51 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
iggy, wasn't GT in your top 5 or something at some point? What happened? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

MyTurn2Raise 09-24-2007 01:45 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1. LSU
2. OU
3. USC
4. West Virginia
5. Florida
6. Ohio St
7. Cal
8. Clemson
9. Texas
10. Oregon


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Why do you like CU so much? Pretty interesting game this weekend for them though, maybe we'll know more.

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I basically don't like anything outside of the top 5 right now

someone has to be #8

FSU looks like they might be something, but that is still in the air

a nice sound win on the road (even NCST) is nice

at the #8 spot, it's more like who has the least flaws IMO

TruFloridaGator 09-24-2007 12:29 PM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
I agree that it was a nice road win, if they can pull it off this week @ GT then they will probably be deserving of the top 10.

BobJoeJim 09-26-2007 02:14 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
All right, here's my stab at it.

#1-4: Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, USC
#5: West Virginia
#6-8: Cal, Ohio State, Oregon
#9-16: Boston College, Cincinnati, Clemson, Kansas, Kentucky, Rutgers, South Carolina, Texas
#17+: Too many teams to list without leaving someone out who should be in this clump.

iggymcfly 09-26-2007 03:41 AM

Re: NCAAF Rank\'em: September 23, 2007
 
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iggy, wasn't GT in your top 5 or something at some point? What happened? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I was giving them credit for beating down a team in the 30-50 range after the opener vs. Notre Dame. Turned out that ND was more like a 70ish team at best. Also, the secondary somehow completely fell apart the last two games. The front seven's still awesome, but the DBs are playing much worse than expected.


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