NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

66/30/2.3. Never seen him 4-bet till now.

We were playing really aggro vs each other at the start of the session (was 3 handed), then he started to stay out of my way

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($95.55)
MP ($189.63)
CO ($190.62)
Hero ($310.70)
SB ($1.59)
BB ($69.63)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, SB calls $1.59 (All-In), <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $36</font>, Hero calls $24.

Flop: ($75.09) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $75.09</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero does...?</font>


I just [censored] know he has AA here after re-raises me again preflop, I really really want to fold flop but I know alot of people will say to never fold in this spot vs this player..........

comments?

(p.s i thought his stack was deeper than this but anyway..)

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

This guy plays and raises as much 2x or more than any other person. You're playing aggro, you have KK and he was the one that 4bet preflop. Folding here is lighting money on fire, and makes this idiot's play correct. What else do you want to here? Shove.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

yeah, hes raising alot, occasionally calls 3-bets.. but hes never 4 bet until now.

and the fact he seems to be playing scared/weak vs me makes me put him on a monster here as hes showing alot of strength for once..

believe me, i'd never want to fold KK in this spot vs this type of player ever. But from the way he has been playing so weak and scared vs me the only hand I could put him on here was AA. He's one of these shortstackers who now has his whole roll on the table.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

Shove the flop.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

shove and hate it

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

Shove and laugh when he turns over AKs/AKo/QQ.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

shove, i cant narrow his range solely based on the 4 bet. hell also call with worse.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

right.. well the reason im probably so annoyed at this hand is cause he did have AA and I hated that i didnt go with my instincts as i shoved over.

bastard

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

umm get it in pf...

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

I love this flop, I am all-in.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

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umm get it in pf...

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Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

I'm soooo happy to get it in here. You're ahead like 75% of the time or so. Sucks that he had AA this time.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

shove and hope for the best.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

gotta shove me thinks

ive taken away half of the ak combos in this ev calc as you think it will be less likely:

Board: 9h Jh 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.012% 52.20% 02.81% 8786 472.50 { KcKs }
Hand 1: 44.988% 42.18% 02.81% 7099 472.50 { QQ+, AhKh, AsKs, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKh, AdKs, AhKs }

and its still +ev, if he does this with only QQ+ then your flipping a coin, and everybody loves a gamble.

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

yeah, ty. usually its an instant shove preflop/flop but when someones playing really scared vs you......

Re: NL100: KK deep vs donk
 

lol, if your not gonna get it in on this flop, and you dont wanna get it in PF, then just fold PF cuz you cant play for set value