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nuggetz87 10-23-2007 07:43 PM

400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
villain is danistar, multitabler 18/14 or something no other notes.

people don't seem to check river often enough on 4flush boards w/ big hands even when their opponents are likely to bet almost anything either as a bluff or for value. how is this?

as for his hands i think he has a straight/2pair/set, maybe with a small spade.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $843.20
SB: $494
Hero (BB): $571
UTG: $392
CO: $406.70

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $16</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, SB calls $36

Turn: ($128) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $88</font>, Hero calls $88

River: ($304) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $419 and is All-In</font>

nuggetz87 10-23-2007 08:38 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
is this not interesting or what

FireStorm 10-23-2007 08:47 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
I actually like this, I can't see too many hands he can have to call that take this line. I hope he doesn't have a sick read on you that enables him to check the goods here to induce you bluffing.

gimmetheloot 10-23-2007 09:51 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
Do you flat the nuts on the turn here often?

too eazy 10-23-2007 10:00 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
i think a lot of decent players almost always check A or K high flush here with the intention to call knowing a decent player like yourself must bet to win the pot.

Trivial 10-23-2007 10:17 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
i don't like this at all (and definitely not vs danistar)

what do you make of his turn bet? and what hands in your turn calling range should be able to value shove this river?

ipokeder 10-23-2007 10:30 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
this looks terrible

he's looking you up with a spade and you win the pot a lot anyway by just checking

RiverHebrew2 10-23-2007 10:47 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
I like this play... ONLY way he can call IMO is if he has a good flush or 6x6s and makes a ridic hero call.

Trivial 10-23-2007 10:48 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
if he has a hand which can't call here then he is almost certainly betting the river, no? cause nuggetz sure as hell shouldn't have a high spade here given preflop/flop/turn action unless its precisely As6x or a high slowplayed flush

Evigt_Drabbad 10-23-2007 10:57 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
i did something similiar today, got looked up by 6 hi flush and i couldnt believe hed call with that [censored]

aislephive 10-23-2007 11:03 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
Don't like this at all, you're repping a pretty narrow range and that and also because it's a blind battle you'll get looked up probably by any flush if he is decent. This is a great line to take for value though, he almost definitely has a hand he thinks might be good but can't value bet (straight, set, medium or weak flush), and plans to call the river a good amount.

You're also good here sometimes, although not a ton. I think bluffing for &gt; psb on the river though is spew against a decent player.

xker17x 10-23-2007 11:05 PM

Re: 400nl bluffing with 2 pairs lol
 
i certainly agree with the part about bluffing for greater than a pot sized bet, well said a5


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