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batmanoflove 11-22-2007 10:40 PM

caught cheating on stars
 
Status:
Message successfully sent
To:
support@pokerstars.com
Cc:

Subject:
warning, cheating suspected!!!!

these two members "mitch369" and "worlds#1" they knew each other and played on
same table. At table "Sigelinde" $0.10/$0.25 NL table just about 5 minutes ago. I
was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go.
Please take this seriously and I'd like to have a follow up report on your
investigation. Mean while I'll also post this to 2+2 forum so people will pay
attentions to these guys.

batair 11-22-2007 10:59 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
There is nothing wrong with people who no each other playing in the same room as long as they are not working together.

R*R 11-22-2007 11:02 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
I tell ya it was a mean while.

JSmith2007 11-22-2007 11:15 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Move up where they respect not knowing each other

skoal2k4 11-22-2007 11:27 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
Status:
Message successfully sent
To:
support@pokerstars.com
Cc:

Subject:
warning, cheating suspected!!!!

these two members "mitch369" and "worlds#1" they knew each other and played on
same table. At table "Sigelinde" $0.10/$0.25 NL table just about 5 minutes ago. I
was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go.
Please take this seriously and I'd like to have a follow up report on your
investigation. Mean while I'll also post this to 2+2 forum so people will pay
attentions to these guys.

[/ QUOTE ]

there is zero indication of cheating based on this email

jukofyork 11-22-2007 11:42 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
Status:
Message successfully sent
To:
support@pokerstars.com
Cc:

Subject:
warning, cheating suspected!!!!

these two members "mitch369" and "worlds#1" they knew each other and played on
same table. At table "Sigelinde" $0.10/$0.25 NL table just about 5 minutes ago. I
was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go
.
Please take this seriously and I'd like to have a follow up report on your
investigation. Mean while I'll also post this to 2+2 forum so people will pay
attentions to these guys.

[/ QUOTE ]
LOLOLOLOLOLOL! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ajmargarine 11-22-2007 11:42 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Meanwhile, down at .05/.10, The Joker and The Penguin are tag teaming some housewife out of her freeroll winnings!!!

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/461...b0b896ogk7.jpg

bigblackbuddha 11-23-2007 12:15 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
"I'd like a follow up report on your investigation."

This has to be a level.

apefish 11-23-2007 12:31 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
Meanwhile, down at .05/.10, The Joker and The Penguin are tag teaming some housewife out of her freeroll winnings!!!

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/461...b0b896ogk7.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]


awesome.


brendanb438 11-23-2007 12:33 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
http://www.frankdecaro.com/recipes/p...man%20Kiss.jpg

poorolrich 11-23-2007 01:12 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
But wait, he said that they were cheating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

KEW 11-23-2007 01:35 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
Status:
Message successfully sent
To:
support@pokerstars.com
Cc:

Subject:
warning, cheating suspected!!!!

these two members "mitch369" and "worlds#1" they knew each other and played on
same table. At table "Sigelinde" $0.10/$0.25 NL table just about 5 minutes ago. I
was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go.
Please take this seriously and I'd like to have a follow up report on your
investigation. Mean while I'll also post this to 2+2 forum so people will pay
attentions to these guys.

[/ QUOTE ]


I am convinced there guilty lock'em up,throw away the key and smash there mouse...Never before have we seen such convincing evidence..

batair 11-23-2007 01:36 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Holy cheatarama batman they be following me and stealing my money.

Josem 11-23-2007 04:47 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Status:
Message successfully sent
To:
support@pokerstars.com
Cc:

Subject:
warning, cheating suspected!!!!

these two members "mitch369" and "worlds#1" they knew each other and played on
same table. At table "Sigelinde" $0.10/$0.25 NL table just about 5 minutes ago. I
was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go
.
Please take this seriously and I'd like to have a follow up report on your
investigation. Mean while I'll also post this to 2+2 forum so people will pay
attentions to these guys.

[/ QUOTE ]
LOLOLOLOLOLOL! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

MS Sunshine 11-23-2007 06:58 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
I really liked:

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/461...b0b896ogk7.jpg

Juk's reply LOL reply to:

I was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go.

Required me to spend severals minutes wiping down my keyboard, but I was already chuckling a little about:

Please take this seriously

But seriously batman, yes players cheat even at micro limits. Players also know each other and even seek out games with friends already playing and almost without exception they are not cheating. Poker is fun. Poker with friends even more so. Taking your friends poker $$, priceless.

I would think that players discussing their knowledge of each other and the limits in question that it's over 100-1 any cheating was going on and that is what PS support will report back to you.

There is nothing wrong with writing support, PS is pretty good about this subject, about possible cheating BUT you have to give them evidence that your case is different from the 1000's of emails about this subject everyday they recieve.

The same here. Try to convince us with logic and lucid posts. Anger and !!!! and CAPS and WARNINGs just make most of us want to pull the wings off and toss you into a spider web. It makes us bad people, but we as a whole we seem ok with this.

logic, logic, logic and a "I might be wrong" stance seems to work best.

Have a nice day.

MS Sunshine

Markusgc 11-23-2007 09:04 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
I think the standard solution here is for the OP to post his Stars name so impartial 2+2r's can watch the games and determine whether or not there is cheating going on.

Animus 11-23-2007 09:13 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
OP you did the right thing. Perhaps a follow up letter is in order.

Sciolist 11-23-2007 09:35 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
There is nothing wrong with writing support, PS is pretty good about this subject, about possible cheating BUT you have to give them evidence that your case is different from the 1000's of emails about this subject everyday they recieve.

[/ QUOTE ]
There's really no need to do that - just mail in and say you think two people are colluding, their play will be reviewed and you'll get a reply no matter how you phrase your question.

mocky 11-23-2007 10:01 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Thread is funny for soo many different reasons. You go get them guys chasing you around them tables OP.

El_Hombre_Grande 11-23-2007 11:06 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Why do you suppose you have been placed on whoever's buddy list?

Any guess ?

I suspect you may make a few buddylists in the future.

jukofyork 11-23-2007 01:57 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why do you suppose you have been placed on whoever's buddy list?

Any guess ?

I suspect you may make a few buddylists in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]
Dead Mr PokerStars,

Some guy has put me on their buddy list and is chasing me around.

Could you do an independent review of my hand histories and tell me if I'm a donk?

Thanks, Mr Donk.

gtpitch 11-23-2007 04:46 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why do you suppose you have been placed on whoever's buddy list?

Any guess ?

I suspect you may make a few buddylists in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]
Dead Mr PokerStars,

Some guy has put me on their buddy list and is chasing me around.

Could you do an independent review of my hand histories and tell me if I'm a donk?

Thanks, Mr Donk.

[/ QUOTE ]

You think that will work?

LOL

Albino Lord 11-23-2007 10:20 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Let me guess, you've been playing online for less than a week and never in a B&M, right? People knowing each other playing together=cheating? BRILLIANT!

batmanoflove 11-25-2007 02:39 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
alright guys. play me at stars now i'm going to donk out a $25 buy-in. just to keep this tread alive.

batmanoflove 11-25-2007 02:40 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
I'm at table "Shedir"

SmokeyRidesAgain 11-26-2007 04:01 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm at table "Shedir"

[/ QUOTE ]
[censored] off.

LateNiteRush 11-26-2007 04:28 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Might want to change the title of your post, it makes it look like you got caught cheating at Stars lol.

Markusgc 11-26-2007 10:00 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
alright guys. play me at stars now i'm going to donk out a $25 buy-in. just to keep this tread alive.

[/ QUOTE ]

Does that mean if you go broke this thread can die?

(I honestly hope you go don't go broke, but I DO hope this thread does die.)

Shoe 11-26-2007 10:04 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
ban OP please

Also a mod should change the subject line if possible.

heater 11-27-2007 09:50 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
I was also being put on mitch369's friend list and he's chasing me wherever I go.

[/ QUOTE ]

My first laugh of the day.

CybrPunk 11-27-2007 10:27 AM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
ban OP please

Also a mod should change the subject line if possible.

[/ QUOTE ]

"Brag: Made friends list - Beat: I'm a fish - Variance: E-Mailed Stars"

Oh wait, wrong forum...

Apparently this calls for a move AND title change.

RoundTower 11-27-2007 01:52 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
Stars don't generally do anything about cheats, even such obvious ones, unless they get reported more than once. You've done the right thing but you should keep on emailing. One every hour for the next 24 hours or so should do it. Make sure you sign up 24 different email addresses and 24 different Stars accounts so they don't know it's all from the same guy.

Alobar 11-27-2007 02:55 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
I just realized, being a CSR at a poker site is prolly more tilting than actually playing poker. If I had to deal with hundreds of stupid emails like this everyday, id [censored] snap.

MicroBob 11-27-2007 05:23 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
I think former CS guys like kyleb have pretty much said this.

Scottyy mentioned all the e-mails about the rigging of play-money games there and some of the other classics. I think you have to have a sense of humor about all the sillyness of the e-mails from the stupid people that make up your customer-base.

I'm pretty sure that being a CSR of many other companies is not too different in many ways. But I guess you don't have to deal with as many "your company is rigged and out to get me" type e-mails if you are a rep at Dell or Verizon or wherever.

Josem 11-27-2007 09:16 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
Stars don't generally do anything about cheats, even such obvious ones, unless they get reported more than once.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is not true. if you're going to make such offensive slurs against people, you should provide evidence.

[ QUOTE ]
You've done the right thing but you should keep on emailing. One every hour for the next 24 hours or so should do it. Make sure you sign up 24 different email addresses and 24 different Stars accounts so they don't know it's all from the same guy.

[/ QUOTE ]
lol

Skipjack 11-28-2007 12:59 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
"Move up where they respect not knowing each other"


OK that was really funny [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Skipjack 11-28-2007 01:01 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
If you are on their buddy list, now you know them...so you cant play on the same table and you should report yourself for cheating.

shamus 11-28-2007 01:37 PM

Re: caught cheating on stars
 
[ QUOTE ]
There's really no need to do that - just mail in and say you think two people are colluding, their play will be reviewed and you'll get a reply no matter how you phrase your question.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is true. A couple of years ago I was at a 0.50/1.00 limit table where one player, having folded out of hands, began announcing the hole cards of another who was still in. I emailed Stars describing what I’d seen & in less than two hours they’d written back three times. First message promised to investigate; second reiterated their concern; third conveyed their findings. They said that while collusion hadn’t necessarily taken place, “unethical play” had. They went on to say the pair would be notified and “preventative measures” would be put in place (though I’m not sure what those measures might have been).

In any event, Stars did take my message seriously (even if I didn’t explicitly ask them to do so).


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