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Whitewash 11-14-2007 07:48 PM

Recommend me some beer, plz
 
Hello.

I am a college student who has been used to drinking the cheapest beer available (Natty, Milwaukees Best, Pabst). I am now looking to step up the quality of my beer. I am looking for some recommendations.

Order of importance:
1. Tastes good. This one is obvious.
2. Mainstream beer. Something I can find at most beer outlets.
3. Mid-price range. Obviously price varies based on region of US, but looking for something nicer than the beers above, without being too expensive.
4. Doesn't fill you up too much. This isn't as important, but I don't want a beer that makes you feel really full after drinking a couple. This is being consumed for the purpose of getting drunk.
5. Status symbol. This is optional, but any beer that shows I am classy (without costing a ton) is a nice addition.

eviljeff 11-14-2007 07:52 PM

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Tastes good.

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shows I am classy

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Cans preferred.

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edfurlong 11-14-2007 07:53 PM

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Pabst

XXXNoahXXX 11-14-2007 07:56 PM

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Whitewash 11-14-2007 07:56 PM

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Haha, good point. Alright, cans aren't mandatory.

2/325Falcon 11-14-2007 07:56 PM

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Nothing says classy like mainstream mid-priced beer in a can that doesn't fill you up too much for the purpose of getting drunk.

eviljeff 11-14-2007 07:56 PM

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try Sam Adams (Boston Lager, none of the spinoff [censored]) or Newcastle

eviljeff 11-14-2007 07:57 PM

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Heineken is probably the classiest canned beer I can think of

XXXNoahXXX 11-14-2007 07:57 PM

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try Sam Adams (Boston Lager, none of the spinoff [censored]) or Newcastle

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WTF?


http://www.sevenpack.net/wp-content/...ctoberfest.jpg


http://z.about.com/d/beer/1/0/h/2/-/-/SAWinterLager.JPG

cking 11-14-2007 07:58 PM

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easy answer:

yuengling pretty much fits all the guidelines

downside is it is a lager so its a bit more filling but not too much so

edfurlong 11-14-2007 07:58 PM

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http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6...020302apy5.jpg

eviljeff 11-14-2007 07:58 PM

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the Octoberfest sucks, the Winter is alright, but inferior

cking 11-14-2007 08:00 PM

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the Octoberfest sucks, the Winter is alright, but inferior

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summer ale = awesomeness

gongshow 11-14-2007 08:00 PM

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http://videos.psych0fish.com/comedy/...20beer.flv.jpg

eviljeff 11-14-2007 08:00 PM

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again, inferior

XXXNoahXXX 11-14-2007 08:00 PM

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Well, I own a set of these


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making me the authority on Sam Adams. Better luck next time.

eviljeff 11-14-2007 08:02 PM

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you drink the Cherry Wheat, don't you?

Badger 11-14-2007 08:03 PM

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Heineken is probably the classiest canned beer I can think of

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You're likely to be attacked by a rabid pack of beer snobs for saying things such as that.

JMa 11-14-2007 08:03 PM

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Nothing says classy like mainstream mid-priced beer in a can that doesn't fill you up too much for the purpose of getting drunk.

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qft

eviljeff 11-14-2007 08:03 PM

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beer snobs argue about the classiest canned beer?

XXXNoahXXX 11-14-2007 08:04 PM

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you drink the Cherry Wheat, don't you?

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Sam Adams is actually too rich for me, even the light. I prefer a lighter, fresher beer, so I just use those glasses for Corona Light (3 parts beer, 1 part water, three limes)

Badger 11-14-2007 08:07 PM

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easy answer:

yuengling pretty much fits all the guidelines

downside is it is a lager so its a bit more filling but not too much so

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All beers OP mentioned are lagers.
Also it's not widely available.

xorbie 11-14-2007 08:08 PM

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http://www.hopmalt.com/uploaded_imag...ale-769752.JPG

DingusMcgee 11-14-2007 08:08 PM

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Blue Moon

eviljeff 11-14-2007 08:12 PM

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Red Stripe

neuroman 11-14-2007 08:13 PM

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Red Hook is exactly what you're looking for. Very affordable, I often see them around for $13 for a 12 pack.

Red Hook ESB
Red Hook Longhammer IPA (milder than most IPAs, and good)
Red Hook Winterhook
Red Hook Copperhook

all are completely solid. You're not going to get "decent" beer for under $1/bottle, fyi.

eviljeff 11-14-2007 08:14 PM

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Anchor Steam

RunDownHouse 11-14-2007 08:16 PM

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Tastes good.

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shows I am classy

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Cans preferred.

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Plenty of good beer comes in cans, try Dale's or Surly. In fact, I'd never buy a euro import in a green bottle if it could be had in cans.

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Order of importance:
1. Tastes good. This one is obvious.

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Tons of specifics have been given in the many OOT threads and in TLDR's long-standing beer thread. So I'll give you some style advice instead.

Stay away from "Imperial" anything. Stay away from Barleywines. Stay away from IPAs. Stay away from "Double" anythings, in general. Stay away from Dogfish Head. These are all very aggressive styles of beer (or brewery, in DFH's case) that the general BMC drinker won't find very palatable. I think some of those beers are some of my favorites, but in general, you have to work your way up to really loving 100 IBU beer (very bitter).

Look for amber ales, brown ales, English pales, Brooklyn Lager, and good czech pils. These styles are all, in general, softer on the palate and more balanced. I mention Brooklyn specifically because the American craft brew movement has really been alecentric. There aren't as many lagers out there, and thus not as many good ones, and thus really not many good ones you should be able to find just about anywhere in PA. If you like roasted or chocolate flavors a lot, then you can try a good porter or stout, but it'll be further away from your experience than something like an amber ale.

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2. Mainstream beer. Something I can find at most beer outlets. Cans preferred.

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I'm not being an AB homer here: Look for special beers from AB and Michelob, stay away from SABMiller. AB and Mich have really been trying to reach the craft market over the last couple years, and have been working on styles with more flavor, different ingredients, etc. I think both brands have special samplers out right now. Miller's head of Am. Ops has flat-out stated that craft beers are a passing fad, he doesn't expect them to have any long-term carry, and he'd rather compete with the wine-cooler/malt beverage market. Hence Miller Chill, which is not good.

Cans are fine, as explained above.

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3. Mid-price range. Obviously price varies based on region of US, but looking for something nicer than the beers above, without being too expensive.

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Bad news: beer ingredient prices are skyrocketing, hops in particular. Certain varieties of hops have gone up by 300% in the last half-year alone, and there's no hope of price coming down until the new crop gets in. Malt prices are also rapidly increasing. Look for all micros to go up in price starting, well, now. The big boys own most of their suppliers and use a smaller variety of ingredients, so they're more insulated. I can't tell you how much you should expect for a midrange micro since I have no idea how much things cost in PA. I usually pay right around $7 for a sixer; some are a bit cheaper, some are a bit expensive. I don't usually buy stuff that's more than $8.50-$9.50 a sixer unless there's a good reason for it. The AB/Mich specialty brews should all be closer to $6/6.

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4. Doesn't fill you up too much. This isn't as important, but I don't want a beer that makes you feel really full after drinking a couple. This is being consumed for the purpose of getting drunk.

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The styles I told you to look for will all be more quaffable than the ones I told you not to look for. It's easier to slam those beers than it is to slam a 12% ABV barleywine. That being said, I think the "fullness" thing is more subjective than objective,. Buy a 6-pack, see how you feel.

As for getting drunk, higher ABV beers will get you drunk more quickly, but are (generally) more expensive, more aggressive, harder to find, harder to slam, etc. So it's a tradeoff: beer you like the taste of, can find, and can drink quickly, versus the big boys. If you run across a beer labeled a "session beer," that means it's lower ABV and easier to drink. You'd probably like these more than you'd like DFH's 120, but you'd have to drink more to get drunk.

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5. Status symbol. This is optional, but any beer that shows I am classy (without costing a ton) is a nice addition.

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wtf are you trying to impress?

Badger 11-14-2007 08:17 PM

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beer snobs argue about the classiest canned beer?

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Good point. I was blind sided by the can part of the argument and more focusing on Heineken being called classy.

Anyways, if OP was talking about more of a step up than Miller Lite/Bud light I think Sam Adam's is a pretty good recommendation.

Leinenkugel's is fairly widely available, although some of the stuff has the best distribution is their fruity/sweet beer.

Personally if I want a decent cheap beer I'll drink Pabst.

You're really limiting yourself if you want cans. Full Sail has "Session" beer (more predominantly marked as Session than Full Sail) which is good and often times around 10 bucks for a 12 pack of bottles. I think you might like Prima Pils, although that is probably pricey.

RunDownHouse 11-14-2007 08:18 PM

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Red Hook is exactly what you're looking for. Very affordable, I often see them around for $13 for a 12 pack.

Red Hook ESB

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This would also be a great style for you to try, and a good example of it.

In general, the English hops are a bit fruitier and more laid-back than American hops, which are more citruisy and have more bite to them. That's why I recommended looking for an English pale over an American.

Badger 11-14-2007 08:20 PM

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Seriously mods, just give RDH a beer forum already.

eof 11-14-2007 08:20 PM

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wow anchor steam, red hook, red stripe? wtfffff

those are all 11-15 a 12 pack. red stripe is OKAY if you don't mind malty nastiness.

blue moon is good. if you're willing to spend that on a 12 pack, which you have to be for good beer.. you should just buy whatever micro brew is around. sierra nevada is good.


in PA don't you have some stupid ass rule where you can't buy 6 packs in the store? you have to buy either 24 packs or 6 packs from a bar for 12 bucks? if that is true then you have to buy [censored] beer or just get whatever the bartender recommends. you're basically sol

RunDownHouse 11-14-2007 08:21 PM

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Seriously mods, just give RDH a beer forum already.

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Mod's Playground was beer for a while, but that was ages ago in internet time.

kkcountry 11-14-2007 08:22 PM

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heh, i was thinking about starting a winter edition of this thread, you might want to read it, lots of smrt people in it

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post10824048

divides_by_zero 11-14-2007 08:26 PM

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the Octoberfest sucks, the Winter is alright, but inferior

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summer ale = awesomeness

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QFT about the summer ale. I am of the complete opposite opinion regarding the Oktoberfest and the Winter ale.

NT! 11-14-2007 08:29 PM

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forget about good beer. drink cheap beer (plenty of it tastes just fine to me) and good liquor.

Whitewash 11-14-2007 08:41 PM

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What are peoples thoughts on Michelob Ultra?

NhlNut 11-14-2007 08:44 PM

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Go Canadian.
Good alcohol content. Generally easy drinking. Not expensive.

DCJ311 11-14-2007 08:47 PM

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RDH- nice post.

For lower-tier inexpensive beer there's nothing better than Red Dog IMO. 12-pk bottles run you in the ballpark of $6.99 and the product tastes about as good as Budweiser if not better.

For mid-range I like many New Belgium products, Anchor Steam, Shiner Bock, the white beer Hoegaarden (Blue Moon), and Negra Modelo, these will run you avg. $6.99-8.99 for a 6-pk.

Pretty much avoid Heineken at all costs unless you're getting it for free or drinking it in Holland. Once you've had the superior Euro-Heineken it's basically impossible to drink it in the States.

cbloom 11-14-2007 08:55 PM

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Red Hook is exactly what you're looking for.


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This is an excellent answer. They used to be very hard to find outside of the Pac NW but are now pretty common across the US. Some people who don't like beer find the taste of Red Hook too strong though.

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Pyramid Hefeweizen are also very common and decent.

Another option is the more common decent imports. (not Heineken) something like Stella, or a lot of places now have one of the Czech beers or Kronenbourg 1664, or Franziskaner. All of the those are pretty light and tasty.


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