Kill Phil Charts
 

Anyone created these yet? The charts mentioned in the book still haven't been released. I've started on one, but I'm not sure how much I like it.

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Go to Las Vegas Advisor, Kill Phil board. Someone posted a nice one there.

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Designed with Kim Lee, the Kill Phil strategy cards are at the printers and should be back soon. They are color-coded and organized in a user-friendly format. There are separate cards for KP Rookie, Basic Live, Online, Move-in Stage, and Advanced Post-flop.

Regards,

Lee

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Designed with Kim Lee, the Kill Phil strategy cards are at the printers and should be back soon. They are color-coded and organized in a user-friendly format. There are separate cards for KP Rookie, Basic Live, Online, Move-in Stage, and Advanced Post-flop.

Regards,

Lee

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Will they be sold all together as a bundle or will you have to buy each card seperately?

RZ

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Do you have a link? I just went through the entire Kill Phil forum and found nothing. Their search engine is broken.

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They'll be sold as a package. Individual cards will also be available to replace lost cards, etc.

Regards,

Lee

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The search function at the Kill Phil Forum started working again. You can find the chart HERE.

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CPR=????


If anyone knows I would appreciate it...

Margon

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CPR=????




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Wiki:

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Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR), is an emergency first aid protocol for an unconscious person on whom both breathing and pulse cannot be detected.

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Hope that helps.

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lol, I meant the CPR that is listed on the Graph....

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cpr=cost per round

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thank you

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I haven't read the book, but it sounds interesting. I have a question about the chart that was linked above. Is the Huge/Big section right? It looks like a typo since it says >4xCPR, which is also how they seem to define a medium stack. I'm guessing this should be maybe 10xCPR or something? Or am I misunderstanding?

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It should be 10.

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Please note that Blair and I did not make this chart and cannot guarantee the accuracy of it's content, so please proceed cautiously.

Regards,

Lee

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Do you see any errors?

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Please note that Blair and I did not make this chart and cannot guarantee the accuracy of it's content, so please proceed cautiously.

Regards,

Lee

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Do you see any errors?

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Given the discussion above in this thread about charts the authors will offering for sale, I doubt they will invest any time in proofing the charts available via the link.

Rob (TexBigSlick)

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It should be 4, 10, and 30.

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It should be 4, 10, and 30.

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You are incorrect. This is the "Online" version of KP. It is > 10x, > 4x, < 4x. The > 30x and >10x CSI are the same.

There are a couple of other mistakes in the chart. I am working on a corrected version that combines my original chart with this one. If I like it when its done, I'll post it here.

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Cool ... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Question for those that have the book....I have mine on order from Amazon.ca, only Canadian retailer where I could find it, and it is on backorder with an approx. delivery date of 1 month from now.

I have tried this chart and it seems pretty sound advice. One question I have is when to go away from the chart, do you stop when your in the money? Or when your on the bubble?

Based on about 50 SnGs using this it seems to get you into the money very well, but leaves you very short stacked when you get there, I find that my ITM is a bit up, but my 1st place finishes are way down.

Some guidance on this would be appreciated (while I wait on my version to show up!).

Thanks,

Margon

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The chart is incomplete. The book teaches you to be more aggressive when down to 4-6 players at your table, 3 handed, and heads up.

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Seems a bit too much to push all-in with a healthy stack and ATo in the BB after limpers. Gonna chew on that one a while.

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Seems a bit too much to push all-in with a healthy stack and ATo in the BB after limpers. Gonna chew on that one a while.

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ATo is orange. It says push M, L or S/BB when <10 CPR. It doesn't appear in the healthy stack box. Unless you mean having 800-900 chips with BB at 100 is healthy.

There's a black line that runs down the middle. Suiteds at the top, offsuit underneath.

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My reading comprehension sucks.

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Does this mean that the charts are not in the book? You have to buy the book to understand the charts and then also buy the charts?

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Does this mean that the charts are not in the book? You have to buy the book to understand the charts and then also buy the charts?

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No, the separately sold charts are single page affairs meant to bring with you to the tables. Plastic coated I'd assume.

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The books layout the strategy, the cards will just be a handy pocket reference rather then having to keep looking things up in the book.

RZ

Kill Phil Charts (Version 1)
 

My first attempt. Please let me know if anything is incorrect or can be improved.
This is NOT a replacement for the book.
This is NOT the most advanced strategy in the book.
If you do not understand something on the chart, you should buy the book!!!
http://nyjet_twoplustwo.home.mindspr...m/KillPhil.JPG
Click here to download.

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why isn't KQs included with group 7? KQo is in group 7 and it plays whenever group 6 plays.

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KQs is in Group 6.. because it is a suited connector(group 6)so it plays sometimes KQo doesn't. However sometimes you drop the lower suited connectors but keep KQs because it is 2 paints.

RZ

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KQs is in Group 6.. because it is a suited connector(group 6)so it plays sometimes KQo doesn't. However sometimes you drop the lower suited connectors but keep KQs because it is 2 paints.

RZ

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KQo is in group 7. KQs is listed in group 6. Group 7 which includes KQo plays more often than group 6. KQs is actually listed by itself in these situations but from the way i'm reading things KQs could just be included in group 7. Perhaps I'm having a huge brain fart and misreading things. If so please tell me.

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KQs is in Group 6.. because it is a suited connector(group 6)so it plays sometimes KQo doesn't. However sometimes you drop the lower suited connectors but keep KQs because it is 2 paints.

RZ

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KQo is in group 7. KQs is listed in group 6. Group 7 which includes KQo plays more often than group 6. KQs is actually listed by itself in these situations but from the way i'm reading things KQs could just be included in group 7. Perhaps I'm having a huge brain fart and misreading things. If so please tell me.

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This is the online chart, it plays a bit differently then the other charts, Suited connectors go down in value but Big cards go up. thats why you see 7 playing more then 6 on that chart. You need to see them all to understand.

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Does anyone else here have a problem with the reproduction of the actual charts from the book? I feel that reprinting these charts goes well beyond any "fair use" provisions.

I have ordered the book and am awaiting my copy.

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Does anyone else here have a problem with the reproduction of the actual charts from the book? I feel that reprinting these charts goes well beyond any "fair use" provisions.

I have ordered the book and am awaiting my copy.

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Once you receive your book, you will see that there are no charts like this in the book. The charts will be sold seperately, but are not available yet.

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Does anyone else here have a problem with the reproduction of the actual charts from the book? I feel that reprinting these charts goes well beyond any "fair use" provisions.

I have ordered the book and am awaiting my copy.

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There is nothing like those charts in the book, they layout the way certain hands should be played, these charts were created off that advice but not any kind of a reproduction, just somebody creating a study aide for the book since the official charts from the authors are not avaible yet.

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Thank you. This post explains why creating this chart is OK.

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No problem. As I stated in my post I have not read the book and have it on order. Having seen the cards referenced in other posts and then seeing a chart (which appears to have reproduced directly from a book) it was a natural conclusion that someone posted a copy of copyrighted material. Thank you for the explanation.

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That's an amazing chart NYJ, thank you for the effort! I broke down and paid retail at B&N for the book, and am about half way through it. Now I just have to see if I can get the book to pay for itself...

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I have also ordered the book (damn hard to get in Sweden). Can anyone tell what CSI stands for on those charts?