Completely ridiculous Pokerstars new disconnect policy
 

Playing a HU SNG non-turbo on stars right now. My opponent disconnects... sweet free money. So yadda yadda he times out, they give him extra time as usual for the disc. Then he finally folds his hand and I'm expecting for him to be sitting out, where I can then just raise every hand and win in like 7 min. Instead, for some reason they've changed this policy.

Now it says he's disconnected where his chip count would be. But it doesn't auto-fold him. Now it takes the regular 25~ seconds for him to time out on every hand. This is EXCRUCIATING long... and the worst part is I can't leave since I have to raise the hands. Even worse is he could still come back in the freaking 30 minutes this is going to take.

Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257355915: thepopinjay wins pot (20)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257359167: thepopinjay wins pot (40)
Dealer: Limits going up: blinds 15/30
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257362995: thepopinjay wins pot (30)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257366252: thepopinjay wins pot (60)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257369676: thepopinjay wins pot (30)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257372892: thepopinjay wins pot (60)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257376404: thepopinjay wins pot (30)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257379824: thepopinjay wins pot (60)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257383161: thepopinjay wins pot (30)
Dealer: Game #12257386489: svein erik wins pot (30)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257387429: thepopinjay wins pot (30)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: svein erik has timed out - hand is folded
Dealer: Game #12257390695: thepopinjay wins pot (60)
Dealer: svein erik, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act

Insane. WHY POKERSTARS WHY?

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Once an event reaches the bubble (not really relevant for your HU event), the tournament enters a special mode whereby disconnected players receive extra time.

This extra time does not count against the blind clock, but it will add about 7 minutes to the length of the event. A player gets 4 minutes the first hand, 2 minutes the second, and one minute on the third. Then he only gets the normal 25 seconds each hand. In 'disconnect extra time' mode a disconnected player will never be made to 'Sit Out'.

We believe it is important to protect the interests of players who are experiencing temporary internet difficulties in a tournament end game situation and hope you'll exercise patience in the few times you'll be affected by these delays.

As an aside, this isn't a new disconnect policy. It's been like this at least as long as I have worked here (about a year).

MarkW

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he could still come back in the freaking 30 minutes this is going to take

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Once an event reaches the bubble (not really relevant for your HU event), the tournament enters a special mode whereby disconnected players receive extra time.

This extra time does not count against the blind clock, but it will add about 7 minutes to the length of the event. A player gets 4 minutes the first hand, 2 minutes the second, and one minute on the third. Then he only gets the normal 25 seconds each hand. In 'disconnect extra time' mode a disconnected player will never be made to 'Sit Out'.

We believe it is important to protect the interests of players who are experiencing temporary internet difficulties in a tournament end game situation and hope you'll exercise patience in the few times you'll be affected by these delays.

As an aside, this isn't a new disconnect policy. It's been like this at least as long as I have worked here (about a year).

MarkW

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Okay this makes sense for an MTT big stakes crap whatever whatever, but for a FIVE DOLLAR SIT AND GO?

And previously in the past the disconnects have been how I said. Don't know when this went in place, but you used to be able to finish them out in like 7 minutes cause it would auto-fold. This is just way way way way too long.

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i like this, sometimes i disconnect and this would benefit me.

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And previously in the past the disconnects have been how I said. Don't know when this went in place, but you used to be able to finish them out in like 7 minutes cause it would auto-fold. This is just way way way way too long.

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it was like this for me up to very recently when a case like ur OP occurred - it pissed me off no end to just sit about and bloody wait.

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Something HAS to change with this policy. 40 minutes just to blind him out. GREAT!!!

1st hand: PokerStars Game #12257298954: Tournament #62205255, $5.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/09/25 - 04:46:47 (ET)

last hand: PokerStars Game #12257537389: Tournament #62205255, $5.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2007/09/25 - 05:26:38 (ET)

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And previously in the past the disconnects have been how I said. Don't know when this went in place, but you used to be able to finish them out in like 7 minutes cause it would auto-fold. This is just way way way way too long.

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it was like this for me up to very recently when a case like ur OP occurred - it pissed me off no end to just sit about and bloody wait.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah I used to play HU SNGs at stars about a year or so ago, and when someone timed out and disconnected, you'd be able to steal their blinds really quickly. That does sound really annoying. Who needs longer than a minute to reset your internet connection?

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Yeah this is pretty ridiculous IMO. I pay for a backup connection. If they don't, oh well.

Ryan

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wtf? your opponent disconnects from the internet, you win chips every minute your opponent is away, and you are complaining about the inconvenience? how the hell do you think your opponent feels that he has been disconnected and chips are being transferred risk free to you?


seriously, you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

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wtf? your opponent disconnects from the internet, you win chips every minute your opponent is away, and you are complaining about the inconvenience? how the hell do you think your opponent feels that he has been disconnected and chips are being transferred risk free to you?


seriously, you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

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Give me a break. For the first few minutes, I see your point. But when it become obvious that a player is not likely to return, then having to wait 40 minutes for them to be blinded out is going disconnect-protect overboard.

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if the worst thing that happens to you today is that you win a SNG slowly, it is not a bad day.

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I actually have to wait before I win a $5 sit and go just by showing up WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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I disconnects alot so I don't have a prob with it...
2+2: Mike Moon has timed out - reply is folded

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if the worst thing that happens to you today is that you win a SNG slowly, it is not a bad day.

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I actually have to wait before I win a $5 sit and go just by showing up WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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Listen, I'm not whining or crying. This isn't even something that would effect me in the games I play. I'm just saying that this is a case of a good idea taken too far. I understand there are much worse things than having to wait to get the easy money and if there's no other way then so be it. It's not a bad thing, though, for the clock to return to a very short period after enough time has passed that it is very reasonable to assume the other player will not be returning.

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it is very reasonable to assume the other player will not be returning

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This is not a reasonable assumption. Do you think your opponent just decided, meh, not worth it, I'm turning off the computer? Of course not - he's disconnected from his ISP or whatever and is probably frantically trying to get back on. It may take 10 minutes, it may take 10 hours.

And while $5 may not be much to you, it might be to this guy. So, he should have every chance to get back and finish. It's not taking you any longer than it would if he decided to take the maximum time every hand and then fold.

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it is very reasonable to assume the other player will not be returning

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This is not a reasonable assumption. Do you think your opponent just decided, meh, not worth it, I'm turning off the computer? Of course not - he's disconnected from his ISP or whatever and is probably frantically trying to get back on. It may take 10 minutes, it may take 10 hours.

And while $5 may not be much to you, it might be to this guy. So, he should have every chance to get back and finish. It's not taking you any longer than it would if he decided to take the maximum time every hand and then fold.

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A+

Wish Full Tilt would start doing that too. Specially with their damn site freezing constantly and the yellow screen of death and all.. this would sure be helpful at FTP too....

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wow, how big of a douche do you have to be to complain about something like this?

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In "the past" when you could clean someone out instantly, it was probably because they hadn't disconnected. They were connected, weren't paying attention and timed out. In this case, as noted, Disconnect Extra Time applies. Start another tournament, stop bitchin'.

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it is very reasonable to assume the other player will not be returning

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This is not a reasonable assumption. Do you think your opponent just decided, meh, not worth it, I'm turning off the computer? Of course not - he's disconnected from his ISP or whatever and is probably frantically trying to get back on. It may take 10 minutes, it may take 10 hours.

And while $5 may not be much to you, it might be to this guy. So, he should have every chance to get back and finish. It's not taking you any longer than it would if he decided to take the maximum time every hand and then fold.

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anyone who doesnt agree with this is a douchebag IMO

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I actually enjoy it when the guy i'm playing gets disconnected and it's a race to steal his blinds as fast as possible.

And my FAVORITE is when he comes back and reconnects, right when he is down to 15 chips and all in.

Brings a smile to my face everytime.

If you don't like it, get better internets.

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I don't really mind it doing something like this heads-up.
But the policy seems to get implemented at weird times.

I think sometimes the software automatically sits a player out and other times it does the all-in disconnect-protect thing for him. And I'm not positive Stars knows that it does it differently for different situations somehow.

That's my experience anyway.

I played an MTT and I don't think we were near the bubble and one player was out and we had to wait freaking 4 and then 3 minutes on 2 different hands while it waited ALL that time for him to come back. It was freaking horrible and hte other tables got to continue playing. I complained to Stars about it and they gave a similar explanation of why all players deserve an appropriate amount of time to come back.
Pretty ridiculous imo.

This was at least 2 yrs ago though so I don't know if this is possible anymore. But making a whole table wait for 240 seconds for a run-of-the-mill preflop decision when the guy had 50 or so BB's and we were not near the bubble while all the other tables get to keep on playing was really inappropriate imo.

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I play poker from the comfort of my home, playing hands almost instantly dealt, instead of the old 30+ hands an hour live.

I (most likely) have a higher standard of living than 90%+ of the worlds population.

I play poker to try and win some $$.


Then some poor guy disconnects while playing me, and GOD DAMN IT, ITS TAKING TOO LONG TO GET THIS FREE MONEY!!!!!!

I HAVE TO WAIT LONG SECONDS---EVEN MINUTES----JESUS CHRIST, ALMOST 45 OF EM TO GET THIS FREE MONEY!!!

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Whatever just wait till it happens to you. It's completely inconvenient and WAY OVERBOARD. On avg these SNG's take 15 min, so when it takes 40 minutes for mindless activity... it pisses me off.

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haha, i would just disconnect for 5 mins just to tilt my oppo ... maybe he left b/c he can't take it anymore lol

never done this but it would be funny

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The OP has a point in that it is frustrating to wait for the time to lapse then next hand the same thing after a raise.

Yes, we need to allow a decent time for the opponent to try and reconnect but once that has gone then they should be auto folded on all future hands.

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Than You stars.

I got disconnected for ~ 10 mins today because of my isp, when i logged back on i saw i had ~200 chips remaining and went on to win the HU SNG.

The people that are really annoyed can always open another sng.

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if the worst thing that happens to you today is that you win a SNG slowly, it is not a bad day.

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imo the poicly is very flawed also.

For Example: in a 6 handed tourny if this happens at the 3 or 4 handed mode the player simply is SAT-OUT, when the play moves to heads up if it does, the player is then given time to act if he disc at that time. If a player is sat-out when its 3 handed and you bust the other active player, then the other player is still sat out HU from what i can remmember.

Either way sitting a player out who dis when HU for longer then 3-4 minutes is a joke. It doesnt take that long to resett internet conenction imo, and the player probably isnt coming back after the 5 minute mark.

flame away.

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I actually have to wait before I win a $5 sit and go just by showing up WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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Really really good policy from PS I think. If you don't like it just play elsewhere. I can't think of another site which has such a generous disconnect policy.

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Whatever just wait till it happens to you. It's completely inconvenient and WAY OVERBOARD. On avg these SNG's take 15 min, so when it takes 40 minutes for mindless activity... it pisses me off.

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Jesus, open up a cash table to play ay the same time. The time goes by quite quickly

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this could honestly be one reason why i might not switch to pokerstars