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I'm usually not one of those p5's vs 2p2 guys. But this thread is unbelievable.

http://www.pocketfives.com/AF4C346C-...1A213B615.aspx

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jesus

christ

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heh.

lilholdem posted twice in the thread:

Ummm, that is totally horrible imo, I Try to make it a point to guys a i stake and mentor a bit that when u enter a tourny u look at 1st place right? , so therefor every oppurtunity to chip up or double up shoudnt be passed up at all. I really believe that there is no luk in poker tournies in the long run the less pots u miss out on the more money u will win. Nuthing gets me more mad than sum1 tellin me about a beat when they may have played 20% of there hands how i would have which is such a differnce when u get your allins. U folding was def due to much of u playing outta your roll. bcause with that pot how big of a edge do u think that creates if u were to win the pot. Either way nice finish and gl 2 u in the future.
Pz lilholdem
ps i even made this post so that u all can understand me howd i do?

what i meant was if u fold this ur missin out on a pretty damn good spot to be the leader by far and walk ur way into the 11k for 1st as u folding and prolly got about ur best scenario at 4th. This is never ever a fold ina poker tournament at that point or ne point. to who pmed me about gettin it in with suited connecters if it means callin preflop cause if u hit a huge flop u will stand to make a ton of chips then u get in there.
PZ lil , ps. Neplayer who plays to win and to win only would never ever fold this in this spot

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un [censored] believeable

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you made the right lay down,
you know at least 2 pp are coming along in this ride,
and some yahoo might be sooted,. or connected cards

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This thread makes me more happy than I have been in a while!

-ZEN

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When I first started reading the responses...I was like...oh haha. They learned to level stupid questions just like 2p2 did!

Then more responses kept coming...and then later in the thread people begin actually defending their decision to fold with math and stuff. It's just amazing.

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clif nots

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I've been feeling down and wondering if I actually do have an edge anymore because I've been running like [censored] lately. This thread really helped, ty p5s!

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God, I just wish he folded and they showed QQ, QQ, KK, KK and the flop was AA2. But, then of course, this never would have been posted cuz he'd feel like a complete moron.

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clif nots

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folding AA PF in a freezeout is good because the other guys may have sooted connectors and stuff

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clif nots

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"do i fold AA in a normal freezeout cause 2 people are all in and they cover me"

"yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no no yes yes yes yes"

at least that's what i got from skimming

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God Bless P5s. Those guys got skills nshit
Edit: I can't believe he ended up getting it in with top 2 vs flush draw, couldn't he find a better spot?

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Wow this one is just so amazing

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you made the right lay down,
you know at least 2 pp are coming along in this ride,
and some yahoo might be sooted,. or connected cards

guess what somone one hits trips your drawing to a 2 outer,
(1 outer since that guy was holding an ace)
some maniac catches a flush, pfff your pretty much dead
2 pair now you need the board to pair.

yes you have the best starting hand, but how will you end up after 5 more cards to come ...
Do you think you will have the best final hand?
PROBABLY NOT..

i dont know -ev or+ev or math or whatever,
but sometimes you have to lay down the best hand..
and that my friend is why pro's say all the time "im laying down the best hand"

willie nelson created that song specifically for a situatiuon like this

you gotta know when to hold em,,..
know when to fold em ....

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agreed...that is amazing.

thanks for x-posting it as I don't really feel like trying to navigate through some silly P5's thread to find whatever gold may happen to be in there.

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Probably the most sensible thing about that reply was the song quote and even that was wrong....

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What amazed me was that even the replies saying call were treating like it was a serious question. Imagine the reaction if you posted that OP on this board.

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What’s the worst hand you stack off with in this situation? Kings?

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What’s the worst hand you stack off with in this situation? Kings?

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I would probably call with QQ against these players. With QQ, you are getting pretty good set odds against AA/KK and there is a decent chance you are way ahead of everyone.

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I think I'd fold because i'd be so paranoid of a cold deck.

[censored] mansions

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but guys, he coulda been up against sooooted cards!!!!

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Don't feel like wading through a P5 thread, but did anyone use the "you probably are up against the other AA or two AQ/AK, so you got no outs to improve, nice fold" justification.

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I really believe that there is no luk in poker tournies in the long run

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this has to be a level.. he runs like the sun and claims sites are rigged against him!

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so the guy folded right.. did he go on to win the tournament/

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these threads make me happy bc sometimes i falsely think that everybody is at least decent at poker nowadays.

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The OP actually did put the drunk guy on AK/AQ, and the 'good' player on AA. So, with 5 A's gone, the odds of flopping a set are reduced somewhat...lol

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Cash game player A: Randal why would you ever play tournaments for a living?
Me: People like this guy.

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What’s the worst hand you stack off with in this situation? Kings?

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Pretty sure you can get away from Kings there pretty easy.

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o lol'd when he actually went into the process of assigning hand ranges to the villians when he has the best hand in the game. freakin hilarious

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o lol'd when he actually went into the process of assigning hand ranges to the villians when he has the best hand in the game. freakin hilarious

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LOL, I thought I was the only person who just stopped thinking about what someone else has when I hear "all-in" and I look down at AA.

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Pretty standard.

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I wish I read their thread earlier...I might have folded this AA into 2 allins. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

PokerStars Game #8852992623: Tournament #44218549, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2007/03/11 - 16:36:24 (ET)
Table '44218549 980' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Kodiac Nad (10175 in chips)
Seat 2: rook70 (10925 in chips)
Seat 3: RvrMonkey (9325 in chips)
Seat 4: texhell (9400 in chips)
Seat 5: zippi619 (10575 in chips)
Seat 6: buckfan1033 (9650 in chips)
Seat 7: KingGrsMom (9850 in chips)
Seat 8: King_Don _21 (10150 in chips)
Seat 9: pokes4coke (9950 in chips) is sitting out
pokes4coke: posts small blind 25
Kodiac Nad: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
rook70: folds
RvrMonkey: raises 150 to 200
texhell: folds
zippi619: raises 350 to 550
buckfan1033: folds
KingGrsMom: folds
King_Don _21: calls 550
pokes4coke: folds
Kodiac Nad: folds
RvrMonkey: raises 1450 to 2000
zippi619: raises 8575 to 10575 and is all-in
King_Don _21: calls 9600 and is all-in
RvrMonkey: calls 7325 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2d 6h 7c]
*** TURN *** [2d 6h 7c] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [2d 6h 7c 2s] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zippi619: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
King_Don _21: shows [Js Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Deuces)
King_Don _21 collected 1650 from side pot
RvrMonkey: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
King_Don _21 collected 28050 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 29700 Main pot 28050. Side pot 1650. | Rake 0
Board [2d 6h 7c 2s Jc]
Seat 1: Kodiac Nad (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: rook70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: RvrMonkey showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 4: texhell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: zippi619 showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 6: buckfan1033 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: KingGrsMom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: King_Don _21 (button) showed [Js Jh] and won (29700) with a full house, Jacks full of Deuces
Seat 9: pokes4coke (small blind) folded before Flop

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Change the stakes to a $20,000 buy in (where the prizemoney is life changing), with no way of scraping together that money again for a very long time. The equity for the pot is still the same but is it now an instamuck?

CALLING BALTOSTAR!

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Most guaranteed way to walk out of the tournament with 20k is to not play the tournament at all.

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,meh the front page article is much more sick to read knowing he was ghosted for both finaltables if not from sooner.

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A+ would mock again

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What’s the worst hand you stack off with in this situation? Kings?

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Pretty sure you can get away from Kings there pretty easy.

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I am pretty sure folding kings is bad here. You are not that far behind pot odds if someone does have aces, and who knows if you are ahead of these donks.

I would be more inclined to fold kings HU with deep money, where you are not getting the pot odds multiway.

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lol willie nelson wtf?

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There are 4 players allin. KK is not is bad shape even if someone has aces, since your winning % is close to pot odds. KK has got to be way ahead a significant % of the time, so I wouldn't fold it. Wouldn't fold QQ either.

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i just post on p5s to make friends with people since it's all MTT dedicated plus alot of top players post there and are quite friendly plus I like the rankings, really MTTc here is already people who all know each other and it's hard to make any friends here

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Don't be sad, I'll be your friend [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]