Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   MTT Strategy (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25)
-   -   At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy? (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=182757)

codewarrior 08-09-2006 06:57 PM

At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
Subject says it all. I'm sure it has to do with your M relative to others at your table, combined with your overall standing. Any rule of thumb?

NoahSD 08-09-2006 07:03 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
There's no hard and fast rule with a specific M, it has much more to do with payout structure and stack sizes of everyone in the tournament and stuff. As a general rule of thumb, always add-on [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

RichC. 08-09-2006 07:06 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
[ QUOTE ]
There's no hard and fast rule with a specific M, it has much more to do with payout structure and stack sizes of everyone in the tournament and stuff. As a general rule of thumb, always add-on [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

[/ QUOTE ]

ditto. I always add-on, whether i have 10k or 50k, doesnt matter.

funpokerguy 08-09-2006 07:20 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
I think it would depend on how much the add-on was, how many more chips it got you and what your original starting chips were.

But,I always add-on anyways.

codewarrior 08-09-2006 07:30 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
Thanks for all the replies. That's what I've done in the past, wasn't sure if it was correct.

ajmargarine 08-09-2006 07:43 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
There's no hard and fast rule with a specific M, it has much more to do with payout structure and stack sizes of everyone in the tournament and stuff. As a general rule of thumb, always add-on [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

[/ QUOTE ]

ditto. I always add-on, whether i have 10k or 50k, doesnt matter.

[/ QUOTE ]

Let's say typical stars tourney, you got 50k and are top 5 in chips at the add-on period. Avg stacks of say 9k or so, and you're adding on 2k in chips. Seems like a waste of $$$ to me. I assume you were exaggerating a bit; but, there should be a chip level where you are top 10 in chips or whatever, where adding on is pretty pointless.

JCool 08-09-2006 08:14 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
Regardless of how many chips you have, if you can addon 2k chips for the cost of 1.5k, like at Stars, it seems like it should be, by definition, +EV.

Colombo 08-09-2006 08:24 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
I always add on. 2k chips is 2k chips, might as well take em. Plus, its not like the addon kills your roi or anything.

woodguy 08-09-2006 08:44 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
I think Fossilman once had a proof that you should add on unless you have at least 10% of the chips in play.

That's my fuzzy memory of one of the first posts I ever read here.

Regards,
Woodguy

Neuge 08-09-2006 08:59 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think Fossilman once had a proof that you should add on unless you have at least 10% of the chips in play.

That's my fuzzy memory of one of the first posts I ever read here.

Regards,
Woodguy

[/ QUOTE ]I remember reading something like that, but it was that he said you should add-on unless you had what would be an average stack when the bubble burst.

It may have even been meant the final table bubble, I can't remember, but that would jive with this 10% thing of which you speak.

mornelth 08-09-2006 11:15 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
I do not add-on if I'm a tourney CL. I add-on otherwise.

NoahSD 08-09-2006 11:32 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
AJ,
You should probably add on in that spot.

Woodguy,
Link?

Neuge 08-09-2006 11:58 PM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
[ QUOTE ]
AJ,
You should probably add on in that spot.

Woodguy,
Link?

[/ QUOTE ]I'm obviously not Woodguy, but these are a couple of posts I found doing a quick search.

Link 1

Link 2

ajmargarine 08-10-2006 01:13 AM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
I looked at the links above. In the first link, Hero has 36 bb's and adding on will give him an additional 10 bb's. This is a pretty significant bump.

When I asked about having 50k in a rebuy Stars tourney...You'd have 333 bb's for the coming level and adding on will give you 13 more bb's. That doesn't seem very significant.

RichC. 08-10-2006 01:20 AM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
i always add on, period, think what you will, but the more chips i have the better i like it.

Silent A 08-10-2006 02:28 AM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
Do you add-on when you're chip leader (or close) in a rebuy super satellite (i.e. many tickets)?

I think that would be the absolute worst time.

runout_mick 08-10-2006 05:04 AM

Re: At what M is an add-on not a good value in a rebuy?
 
[ QUOTE ]
adding on will give you 13 more bb's. That doesn't seem very significant.

[/ QUOTE ]

The thing is, after you get sucked out on twice, it may be the difference between having an 8 bb stack or a 15 bb stack.

It's just insurance. You don't WANT to need them, but it's nice to have if you DO need them.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:11 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.