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Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
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Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t25/t50 9 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t2070 UTG+1: t2420 MP1: t2725 MP2: t5995 MP3: t1990 CO: t7120 Button: t3270 SB: t2575 djk123: t8295 Pre-flop: (9 players) djk123 is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, 5 folds, Button calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t125)</font>, SB folds, djk123 checks. Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t175, 3 players) djk123 checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t150</font>, djk123 calls t150 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t325)</font>, UTG calls t150 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t475)</font>. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t625, 3 players) djk123 checks, UTG checks, Button checks. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t625, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t400</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t1600</font>, djk123 folds. Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to Button. Results: Final pot: t1425 |
Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
i bet the flop, but given how u got here fold looks good to me. only worse hands he can be raising for value here are kj/j8/99, but they probably raise less - and i don't think he's bluffing here ever.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
Smart fold djk. I agree with what chewy said.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
I think that you are almost never deep enough in an Internet tournament to fold a 2-card flush with an unpaired board. Not that I would need reasons to call, but his raise seems too big to be for value, and he bet the flop when he could have taken a free card in an unraised pot with a flush draw. I know that your hand looks like a flush and he's raising, and I've talked myself into a lot of huge laydowns, but this one I can't do.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
I can't really see folding this.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
i think i call this all day.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
fwiw in the normal stuper i call, but imo this one plays much more passive in earlier levels.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
They have a flush here like always and you don't beat any flushes. Good fold.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
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They have a flush here like always and you don't beat any flushes. Good fold. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah. I bet the flop tho. |
Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
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i think i call this all day. [/ QUOTE ] I do too, and yet I like the fold... sigh, I suck at poker. He's never bluffing, does he have a straight or maybe 99 here 32% of the time? I actually don't think so. NH |
Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
you might as well have KJ, does the calling camp, say the call that?
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
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you might as well have KJ, does the calling camp, say the call that? [/ QUOTE ] I like djk's line, but I don't see how KJ = 23cc here (for starters, KJ can chop and if we have non-crubs in our it increases the likelyhood he has a frush). |
Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
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you might as well have KJ, does the calling camp, say the call that? [/ QUOTE ] While you are right it's almost the same thing, it isn't because we beat KJ here and KJ is a significant part of his range that we actually beat [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
i dont think people raise and raise that amount with KJ here, i mean djks hand looks like its KJ or a flush.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
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i dont think people raise and raise that amount with KJ here, i mean djks hand looks like its KJ or a flush. [/ QUOTE ] I was just making the point that worst flush != best non-flush In certain situations it may, but he could definitely show up with KJ here I think sometimes (it's a donkament, dooood) so you can't just say it's the EXACT same thing because it really isn't. |
Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
readless i dont fold here, and expect to see something stupid enough of the time.
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Re: Stars $300 -- I folded a flush?
I've been playing against way too many bad players, which makes this an impossible fold.
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