Stats check: my game is falling apart
 

Hi, I am not a regular poster but I read a lot of posts on 2+2. I have had severe troubles with my poker recently. I moved up to NL200 a couple of months ago and everything was going great. I ran at 4.8 ptBB/100 for 100k hands and thought I was ready to move up to NL400. I took a shot and it went awful, so I decided to move back down.

The problem is since I moved down, I became a very marginal winner at NL200. I mostly broke even for my last 60K hands. My confidence is completely gone and I wonder if I was just on a heater for my first 100K hands, or if I am running awful right now. I know I have leaks in my play , so I decided to post here to get some advice. I will post my stats from my last 60K hands. I loosened up a little preflop, going from 20/17 to 23/20, but I don't feel like it drastically affected my play.

I would really appreciate any feedback. Thank you.

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Re: Stats check: my game is falling apart
 

Looks like you're playing for your stack too much, and in the first 100k hands when you hit all your draws and all your top pairs held up, you won. Now you aren't. Dunno what to say, keep at it I guess, your game will turn around eventually.

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This sucks - sorry I can't interpret PT stats too well so I can't really help you out much there. 100k hands is a long time to be on a heater if that's what it was - but then 60k is a long time to be running bad too. Poker can be such a brutal game - it was mentioned in a blog of a very successful player that was linked from these forums - a young guy who is 'retiring' from poker because it bugs him and he doesn't need to make money from it any longer - someone will know where to get the link.

Anyway he basically pointed out that many people would play nowhere near the amount of hands he plays in a month in their lifetime. And he has had several months where he ran bad for it's entirety. So someone could play phenomenal poker all their life and wouldn't know it - which is ridiculous really - he imagined someone playing world-class golf all their lives and not realising it.

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your stats look pretty solid. your turn/river AF is pretty high so you might spewing a bit unless you know what boards to double/triple on.

also try to steal smaller pots and get ur w$wsf up (43 is good but it could be higher if u want to nitpick).

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Stats don't really say much, especially when taken in a vacuum. What sites do you play on and what is your SN? Those who have played with you can give you their impressions; much better IMO.

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your stats look pretty solid. your turn/river AF is pretty high so you might spewing a bit unless you know what boards to double/triple on.


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Yeah I am guilty of some major spew/tilt at times. I gotta get rid of that ego... What AF numbers should I aim for?

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your stats look pretty solid tbh. only going to showdown 23% and not winning 50% of showdowns plus 43% w$wsf either means you are just running a bit bad, or you could be playing better post flop. one you can control, one you can't so just always try to improve and play your best i guess?

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your stats look pretty solid. your turn/river AF is pretty high so you might spewing a bit unless you know what boards to double/triple on.


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Yeah I am guilty of some major spew/tilt at times. I gotta get rid of that ego... What AF numbers should I aim for?

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i think your numbers are fine. don't worry about AF numbers in perfectly reasonable ranges just play well.

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I loosened up a little preflop, going from 20/17 to 23/20, but I don't feel like it drastically affected my play.

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For what it's worth, 20% PFR seems to be that magic number where people suddenly give you no respect at all. It might not have affected your play much, but has it affected your opponents'? Getting called down much more lightly when behind, etc??

If people aren't giving you much respect and you're as aggro as your stats imply then you could be seriously spewing. Also maybe the money does not mean much to you anymore (after $400), leading to further random triple barrels that aren't likely to be +EV, etc..

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For what it's worth, 20% PFR seems to be that magic number where people suddenly give you no respect at all.

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QFMFT.

And as weird as it sounds, you could probably cold-call a little more often.

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Do you think you could have tilted and spewed off around 3-5k?

Also, 23/20 is alot of hands to be playing and only winning 43% of your flops. That plus your spew/tilt and I think you got your answer. You basically increased your preflop range without improving the number of pots you win, so all the new hands just cut into your profits.

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Also, 23/20 is alot of hands to be playing and only winning 43% of your flops.

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IMO 43 WWSF is very respectable. Certianly not something that screams to be fixed.

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Is this prima (since you have NL300 in your stats)? I guess you probably don't want to disclose your username on there, but just curious since I played a decent amount of 1/2 (and some 1.5/3 and .5/1 before that) on there the last few months.

I'm not playing there much anymore but maybe I have some notes or whatever on you.

Re: Stats check: my game is falling apart
 

all your stats look fine. probably a mix of tilt and bad luck. 60k hands is a long time to be breakeven but it happens.

w$wsf is fine at 43% imo, could be higher but its a healthy number.

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Do you think you could have tilted and spewed off around 3-5k?

Also, 23/20 is alot of hands to be playing and only winning 43% of your flops. That plus your spew/tilt and I think you got your answer. You basically increased your preflop range without improving the number of pots you win, so all the new hands just cut into your profits.

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Actually my WWSF went from 41 to 43, and I increased my steal attempt from 34 to 39. So I am stealing more, and winning more often from those steals. I guess one of my problem now is that I win more small pots and lose more big pots, which is obv bad. I think I don't give enough credit to people for hands and try to bluff them too much. I will try tightening up a little and playing nittier for a while, just to get my confidence back.

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I think I don't give enough credit to people for hands and try to bluff them too much.

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This could be the whole problem right here.