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Gobias Ind. 07-19-2007 03:38 PM

UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
Anyone surprised by this???

Not gonna lie, as the sport reaches it maturity

Coupled with the fact that the UFC fed us a 30 minute program emphasizing just how hard Sean "The Steroid Shark" Sherk trains for his fights, this is kind of a huge blow to Zuffa and MMA I think . . .

Now they have to strip him of the title. ANNOUNCE he was stripped for steroid purposes, and have BJ Penn + someone else fight for the title.

Vyse 07-19-2007 03:41 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
Who?

danvh 07-19-2007 04:08 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
Damn that sucks..I mean during the fight everyone at my house was making steroid jokes, but sucks to see he was dumb enough to actually use..

Just seems insane that knowing he was going to be tested a champion would take this risk..

So who else is for a lightweight Grand Prix for champion..

danvh 07-19-2007 04:18 PM

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For what its worth..

Sean Sherk Plans To Challenge Drug-Test Result
MMANews.com

The following is an update on the Sean Sherk situation from Dave Meltzer's WrestlingObserver.com website:

Loretta Hunt reported on Fight Network radio that Greg Nelson has indicated Sherk will challenge the test result.

Because the fight was in California, and not Nevada, the commission doesn't have the power to overturn the result of the match.

UFC has not yet made a statement regarding the test result. Sherk has 30 days to request a hearing. If he fails to successfully appeal the test result, one would think UFC would have little choice but to strip him of his championship.

DonkeyKongSr 07-19-2007 04:41 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
Damn, I was really looking forward to Sherk-Penn. My guess is Penn-Florian for the vacant title?

Boris 07-19-2007 04:53 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
I made the steroid comment too when I saw the fight. Penn-Florian wouldn't even be a contest.

List 07-19-2007 04:54 PM

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My guess is Penn-Florian for the vacant title?

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Wouldn't make sense to give Florian another shot. Stevenson would make more sense if he wins his next fight. Maybe the winner of Thomas/Fisher if they don't mind waiting. Only reason to put in Florian is if they're desperate to have the event in November or earlier, and Stevenson loses/can't be ready in time. Gomi's another possibility if he isn't shackled to k-1, but I doubt White would shell out the cash.

List 07-19-2007 04:57 PM

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Penn-Florian wouldn't even be a contest.

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I don't think there's anyone left in the LW division with a decent shot at beating Penn if Sherk's suspension holds. He's basically better at everything than anyone in the division, and the few exceptions are too weak in other areas to make up the difference.

DonkeyKongSr 07-19-2007 05:12 PM

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My guess is Penn-Florian for the vacant title?

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Wouldn't make sense to give Florian another shot. Stevenson would make more sense if he wins his next fight. Maybe the winner of Thomas/Fisher if they don't mind waiting. Only reason to put in Florian is if they're desperate to have the event in November or earlier, and Stevenson loses/can't be ready in time. Gomi's another possibility if he isn't shackled to k-1, but I doubt White would shell out the cash.

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Yeah, I didn't really realize it's only been 2 fights/wins since his loss to Sherk in November. He needs a good win or two first.

Anybody know if a Clay Guida-Tyson Griffin rematch is in the books? IMO, the UFC Fight of the Year so far and Guida got robbed. I don't know if either can compete for the title, but I'd like to see them fight again.

Also, anyone watched Urijah Faber in the WEC yet? Is he even too small for the UFC lightweight division? Should he stick to dominating the WEC, or you think he can make the jump? I guess Faber-Pulver must be soon.

EDIT: Interesting. Faber's only loss is to Griffin.

TalkingDonkey 07-19-2007 05:20 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
For what it's worth...Nate Marquardt tested positive for nandrolone after his first UFC fight with a level of 49 - it was found to be a false positive. Sherk's level was 12; given that research has proven high protein diets and hard cardio can elevate nandrolone levels I'm not convinced this isn't a repeat of Nate's situation. If Sherk actually did juice, he should be stripped of the belt (same way Sylvia was when he tested positive) and there should be an interim championship fight ASAP between BJ Penn and the winner of Spencer Fisher-Din Thomas.

MikeyPatriot 07-19-2007 05:42 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
His opponent, Hermes Franca, tested positive too, but admitted to it/isn't challenging the test.

4thstreetpete 07-19-2007 05:43 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
Penn had said he wanted to move up in weight class to welterweight and take another shot at Matt Hughes. A determined Penn with 15-20 of pure muscle is scary. He outclassed Matt in their last fight but his poor conditioning did him in. I would love to see a rematch and see Penn beat the snot out of Matt.

Also you just know that the UFC are just dying to get Roger Huerta in the mix too. This guy is a dream come true maketing bonanza for the UFC to tap into the hispanic market.

List 07-19-2007 06:29 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
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Anybody know if a Clay Guida-Tyson Griffin rematch is in the books? IMO, the UFC Fight of the Year so far and Guida got robbed. I don't know if either can compete for the title, but I'd like to see them fight again.

Also, anyone watched Urijah Faber in the WEC yet? Is he even too small for the UFC lightweight division? Should he stick to dominating the WEC, or you think he can make the jump? I guess Faber-Pulver must be soon.

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Guida already has a very tough fight coming up against Aurelio. I think there's a good chance he gets dumped if he loses a 3rd fight in a row. It's too bad, since he's a decent fighter. He's had some really hard matchups.

Faber's too small to fight efficiently at LW. He just has to hope that WEC grows and/or the UFC adds a 145 class in the next year or two.

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For what it's worth...Nate Marquardt tested positive for nandrolone after his first UFC fight with a level of 49 - it was found to be a false positive. Sherk's level was 12; given that research has proven high protein diets and hard cardio can elevate nandrolone levels I'm not convinced this isn't a repeat of Nate's situation. If Sherk actually did juice, he should be stripped of the belt (same way Sylvia was when he tested positive) and there should be an interim championship fight ASAP between BJ Penn and the winner of Spencer Fisher-Din Thomas.

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Back to the topic at hand. I think Sherk is most likely guilty, and probably used 1 or more other substances that were out of his system in time for the fight. That said, his low levels combined with some well thought out excuses might get him a successful appeal.

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Penn had said he wanted to move up in weight class to welterweight and take another shot at Matt Hughes. A determined Penn with 15-20 of pure muscle is scary. He outclassed Matt in their last fight but his poor conditioning did him in. I would love to see a rematch and see Penn beat the snot out of Matt.

Also you just know that the UFC are just dying to get Roger Huerta in the mix too. This guy is a dream come true maketing bonanza for the UFC to tap into the hispanic market.

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It takes a lot of time to gain that much muscle, especially if you aren't cheating. It would probably cut into his other training to some extent. Unless he takes a long time away from fighting, he won't be fighting efficiently at 170 for a few fights, at least. Of course, he has a good chance of beating the top guys at 170 even with a size disadvantage. The ufc LW division looks really juicy for Penn right now, but since he doesn't need money, he might just try for the glory.

Hopefully they put Huerta up against a more established ufc veteran if he wins his next fight. The ufc is clearly padding his record, and it could bite them in the ass if Crane turns out to be a better fighter, or flukes him.

Victor 07-19-2007 06:32 PM

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proof mma has finally made it.

MikeyPatriot 07-19-2007 06:36 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
I think it was on the UFC All Access show, Sherk admitted to taking 22 supplements. There's a chance that combined + exercise may contribute to his levels.

TalkingDonkey 07-19-2007 07:39 PM

Re: UFC News - Sean Sherk fails a post-fight drug test
 
For what it's worth, Dana White said after UFC 73 that Sherk and Penn would fight for the title - now that Sherk's out of the picture (for now) BJ would be a fool to move up to 170; there's absolutely nobody worthy of title contention at 155 that could even take BJ to a decision. BJ could win with one arm behind his back against any 155'er not named Sherk or Tavarez.

Pigslice 07-20-2007 03:31 AM

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He outclassed Matt in their last fight but his poor conditioning did him in.


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Wasn't it a freak injury that messed him up?

I also wanted to see Sherk and Penn, but unless Sherk is proven innocent it's probably not going to happen. I'd love to see a rematch of Penn and GSP, IMO they are the best at 170 and pretty amazing/exciting fighters when healthy/conditioned.

TalkingDonkey 07-20-2007 03:50 AM

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BJ broke his rib in Hughes II.


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