Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

I made a squeeze and hopped to take the pot down pre. But they called and I flopped TPGK. No real history between villains and me. What do you think about my line? Would you have played it different?


Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00/$4.00 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP3 ($389.40)
CO ($501.40) 40/25/3 after 30 hands
Button ($221.05)
SB ($406.80) 48/22 after 35 hands
BB ($742.00) (Hero) TAG
MP2 ($156.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls $12.00, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $56.00</font>, CO calls $42.00, SB calls $42.00,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $172 )
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $140.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls $140.00,

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $452 )
Hero checks, CO bets $305.40, Hero calls $305.40

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

I dont like squeezing these guys at all, they will not fold

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

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I dont like squeezing these guys at all, they will not fold

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True, I could perhaps just called pre instead. But except the squeeze, is the rest okay?

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

Postflop this seems okay. Don't see how you can fold it when a club hits the turn.

I think it's a good spot to squeeze preflop. You should have some read on their prelop tendencies in 3-bet pots though. Do they call 3-bets light, 4-bet light etc.

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

I would only squeeze OOP if i was sure they could make a laydown, i think u are beat on the flop but id call turn with the extra outs.

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

I don't think postflop can be played any differently but I'm not a fan of the squeeze at all, you aren't going to get two 40VPIP guys to fold enough preflop to make playing the hand OOP profitable.

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

I usually only squeeze bad players with good hands... and we will usually get that chance at some point since they are in so many hands.

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

As squeezed, bet flop

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As squeezed, bet flop

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Why is a bet better than a C/C?

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

its not, nh.

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its not, nh.

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Do you even like the squeeze pre-flop?

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id rather call, but its fine when CO is opening so much and SB is defending so much. the only problem is that they dont fold much, so you need to be reraising a range here which does well vs them.

Re: Villain ain\'t colaborating with me
 

i realllly hate the squeeze with this hand. make the T a nine and extinguish the suitedness and by all means fire it up, but i think KTs plays very well against two weak villains with wide ranges, and it would be a shame to waste its value or alternatively find ourselves out of position in a huge pot with less room to employ our (hopefully) superior post-flop skills.

that said, your post-flop line looks good and i would happily call the turn (especially with backdoor clubs having become a possibility). there just aren't enough strong hands he can have to worry here.