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Nielsio 08-01-2007 10:33 PM

I made another vid (#2)
 
4 table FT1/2. 50 minutes. Some interesting spots.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P4LV3BBG


Interested in your thoughts.

1gotth3nuts 08-01-2007 10:40 PM

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Downloading both ur first and this one now

Nielsio 08-02-2007 07:28 AM

Re: I made another vid (#2)
 
You probably need the Techsmith TSCC codec for this one also:

http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp

Fletcher19 08-02-2007 07:30 AM

Re: I made another vid (#2)
 
downloading now

bubaloo 08-02-2007 08:01 AM

Re: I made another vid (#2)
 
wait,
did you just min-raise 22 otb?
also, do you always check 77 on the BB w/ 1 limper?

1gotth3nuts 08-02-2007 08:11 AM

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The first video was good, there were some betsizing things that I would have done differently... i couldnt download both at same time so im DLing 2nd now and ill watch it later today.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 08:28 AM

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did you just min-raise 22 otb?

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IIRC, there were two very short stacks in the blinds.


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also, do you always check 77 on the BB w/ 1 limper?

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Usually, yes.

bubaloo 08-02-2007 08:52 AM

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did you just min-raise 22 otb?

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IIRC, there were two very short stacks in the blinds.


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also, do you always check 77 on the BB w/ 1 limper?

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Usually, yes.

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fair enougth, didnt see they were shortys. just thought WTF!!!! MIN-RAISE!!

have seen half so far, will watch the rest after a session.

i like the commentary in these vids, listening to your thought processes gets me in the right frame of mind to play.
good work.

donkeykong2 08-02-2007 12:26 PM

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good video so far. spots i didnt like were when you folded top pair to a min raise (k8) as well as the 99 hand when you had an overpair against the guy who had raised 4 out of 4 hands, i think you gave him a little too much credit there.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 12:35 PM

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good video so far. spots i didnt like were when you folded top pair to a min raise (k8) as well as the 99 hand when you had an overpair against the guy who had raised 4 out of 4 hands, i think you gave him a little too much credit there.

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In retrospect, I think I should call with the 99 there, y.

K8 (IIRC), I think is an easy fold.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 03:33 PM

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bump for ??? crew.

banthis! 08-02-2007 03:44 PM

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downloading now

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Fletcher19 08-02-2007 03:49 PM

Re: I made another vid (#2)
 
third time i've tried downloading this, my [censored] internet connection has gone [censored] up the previous 2 times.

Unknown Soldier 08-02-2007 03:51 PM

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this is pretty big, no way to cut it down?

RepulseMonkey 08-02-2007 04:07 PM

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this is pretty big, no way to cut it down?

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Damn right I think you forgot to compress this one. That bitch is FAT [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Nielsio 08-02-2007 04:39 PM

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I'm re-encoding. Maybe it helps. No guarantees.


Fletcher; why aren't you on AIM?

Unknown Soldier 08-02-2007 04:40 PM

Re: I made another vid (#2)
 
still d/l though wont be ble to comment for another 3hrs though

Shizzle12345 08-02-2007 04:49 PM

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things i would do different.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Play back way more at those 28/22 guys. I saw them stealing your blinds, and i would squeeze play there. I also 4bet those 29/22/4 guys if they 3bet you from the blinds. They fold alot of i do that unless theyr tilting.

Also I woulda pushed 99, hes got half a stack.. But thats me :d I like to gambool sometimes.. And the guy was pretty bad

I also woulda made a small bet on the QQ vs AJ hand on the river..

Also why folding 44 to a UTG tag raise? Thats usually a strong hand. Better implied odds, then when he raises in the CO..

the 99 hand on the bottom left table, where slag raises CO i would 3bet.

do you play on everest tho? Sometimes i see a dutch guy named nielsio sitting there.. at 200NL.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 05:34 PM

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Sorry, can't re-encode. My computer crashed halfway through.

banthis! 08-02-2007 07:22 PM

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third time i've tried downloading this, my [censored] internet connection has gone [censored] up the previous 2 times.

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yes this happend to me too. website sucks. It'll say
i'm downloading something when i'm not.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 07:30 PM

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Enter the code. Wait 45 seconds, then click 'free' something that comes up. Then you get a download-window, which is totally seperate from the site and is just a firefox screen.

Unknown Soldier 08-02-2007 07:32 PM

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ill try to dl overnight nielso, hopefully ill be able to give my opinions tomorrow

prodonkey 08-02-2007 07:43 PM

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I'll watch it in a couple days when it gets done downloading.

banthis! 08-02-2007 10:01 PM

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i finished downloading. anyone know how to open the file?
I downloaded something from that link and installed it.
After I install it nothing comes up. help appreciated.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 10:03 PM

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It's a rar.

Never "install" anything you get from some random website.

You can unrar with winrar. http://www.rarlab.com/

banthis! 08-02-2007 10:14 PM

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hey man. got the video working. thanks again.

Wires 08-02-2007 10:42 PM

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Could not download because "the source file could not be read". Any clue what this means? I didn't have any trouble downloading the first vid.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 11:04 PM

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Could not download because "the source file could not be read". Any clue what this means? I didn't have any trouble downloading the first vid.

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I think you're still in the ad-section. Click 'skip ad' top right.

Jay Riall 08-02-2007 11:14 PM

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lol I just spend like 20 minutes watching your Youtube vids. My head hurts lol, made me feel shallow. How long have you been speaking English? Your arguments are very well worded and structured.

Nielsio 08-02-2007 11:33 PM

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lol I just spend like 20 minutes watching your Youtube vids. My head hurts lol, made me feel shallow. How long have you been speaking English? Your arguments are very well worded and structured.

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That's a really nice compliment.

I've been considerably active online in the past two years arguing with people and sharing ideas; both in text as well as voice.

Unknown Soldier 08-03-2007 12:10 AM

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link to youtube vids?

inverted 08-03-2007 12:23 AM

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lol what are the youtube vids about?

tannenj 08-03-2007 12:37 AM

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nielsio seems very smart and open-minded. i'm too lazy to download his videos, though. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Jay Riall 08-03-2007 12:46 AM

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lol what are the youtube vids about?

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The intricacies of shipping it 14/10 style!!!!

Nielsio 08-03-2007 08:23 AM

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link to youtube vids?

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http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Nielsio


You can find the different topics here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=Nielsio

terp 08-03-2007 08:24 AM

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look forward to watching this...

Unknown Soldier 08-03-2007 11:18 AM

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finally d/l it. I'll go through my thoughts as i watch, hopefully you'll know what hands I'm going on about


small point: Q4o i like b/f the river for about 10 he'll look you up light unless he bluffs missed draws alot in which case c/c is good


99 hand i c/c flop lead turn gets value from cbets that way, the way you played it im calling the minraise and re-evaluating (maybe b/f the turn would be good?) he could be minraising a wide range imo, you did donk into him.

QQ: if [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] doesn't come im crai against most villains

i raise ATs utg but w/e


AKo: that mr isnt always a huge hand, i usualy just put him ai on the river and think that he looks me up enough w/ JJ, maybe that's a leak?


JJ: dont think river is very thin, not too likely he has a K i make it 20



with the small value bets, i dont make these against agro players that often (unless i intend to call a raise) because you'll get bluff-raised too often


the K8 is meh i dont agree that if you're calling and folding turn then you should fold flop because he wont always fire turn. folding is fine though.



good AQs pf fold, the shorty seems really passive + arent closing the action, AK i shove/4b



the straight on board is pretty interesting, was in the same spot a little while back against a bad player, i didnt think betting was profitable due to the rake, against a better player i probably would




AQo utg against bad player: "probably going to check river if he calls" i think that's quite bad against this guy, i'm taking this guy to value town, i'd bet more on the turn.



97s: i isolate, as played i call the flop he could feasibly have a hand like KT/9x, you are in decent shape vs T8, unlikely he has a set (88/TT and usually 77; although i noticed you didn't, raises pf). Pretty marginal though.



AK against 43/6/1: must bet the turn for value against weaker Ks, you can fold to a raise at any point but you are missing value checking anywhere this is a great board to stack off KT. Against a nittier player turn check is fine, but not vs a calling station.

Klompy 08-03-2007 11:48 AM

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Right after the 9,9 hand you're in the sb with a,2 and you click the auto fold button before anyone has even acted. You don't try and steal the bb if it folds to you?

Nielsio 08-03-2007 04:48 PM

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finally d/l it. I'll go through my thoughts as i watch, hopefully you'll know what hands I'm going on about


small point: Q4o i like b/f the river for about 10 he'll look you up light unless he bluffs missed draws alot in which case c/c is good

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Yeah. Villain does seem awfully weak and I could get some value from an 8/5/3/77/66/44/22. And yeah, the K rarely help him and it's an easy bet/fold. His AF is really low so I shouldn't be looking for a c/c because often I'm beat.


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99 hand i c/c flop lead turn gets value from cbets that way, the way you played it im calling the minraise and re-evaluating (maybe b/f the turn would be good?) he could be minraising a wide range imo, you did donk into him.

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I prefer a lead. minraises pre are really weak and prefer to take the lead in these situations. If I had a decent draw I also play it the same. I don't want to get passive in a spot like that where I have a pretty good hand and it's just minraised.

As played, I'm not sure. I guess call the minraise and see what happens, but in my experience I'm facing two more streets of medium to smallish bets and I'm gonna lose the pot a lot. Not very +EV IMHO. But calling at least one time shouldn't be too bad. I still beat some hands like A7/88 and draws. Meh, whatever. Crappy spot. I guess I'd call the next the minraise next time.


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QQ: if [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] doesn't come im crai against most villains

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I do sometimes as well, esp when I think he's drawing due to some weird betsizing (very big or very small).



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i raise ATs utg but w/e

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I didn't realize I folded ATs utg. Are you sure it wasn't ATo?



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AKo: that mr isnt always a huge hand, i usualy just put him ai on the river and think that he looks me up enough w/ JJ, maybe that's a leak?

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I think that's bad here. I absolutely put him on an underpair and I valuebet accordingly.


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JJ: dont think river is very thin, not too likely he has a K i make it 20

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That's too much I think. He seemed really weak. Remember he limp-called BoB and he is 46 vpip. He has like a 7 here at best.



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with the small value bets, i dont make these against agro players that often (unless i intend to call a raise) because you'll get bluff-raised too often

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I agree, it matters a lot how trigger-happy and also how trappy-trappy they are. But I think you see a lot of situations where there is thin value and with good handreading and a set of balls you can make these bets.


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the K8 is meh i dont agree that if you're calling and folding turn then you should fold flop because he wont always fire turn. folding is fine though.

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Standard fold for me against this villain.



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good AQs pf fold, the shorty seems really passive + arent closing the action, AK i shove/4b

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Yeah, I commented on it in the vid.



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the straight on board is pretty interesting, was in the same spot a little while back against a bad player, i didnt think betting was profitable due to the rake, against a better player i probably would

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Yeah, I commented on that as well.



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AQo utg against bad player: "probably going to check river if he calls" i think that's quite bad against this guy, i'm taking this guy to value town, i'd bet more on the turn.

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I like to make bets that he can actually call with his second pair. Also I prefer to keep the pot somewhat more manageable, being oop. If I keep betting big and the pot is very big on the river then riverplay becomes really hard because I'll have to start making some form of valueblockers that can be sniffed out or if I check then having to call a huge bet can be really hard. And I only have TP2K.



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97s: i isolate, as played i call the flop he could feasibly have a hand like KT/9x, you are in decent shape vs T8, unlikely he has a set (88/TT and usually 77; although i noticed you didn't, raises pf). Pretty marginal though.

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I'm having some trouble in deciding to isolate/raise-limpers against villain who have a really low pfr-%. This guy is 28/1 so I really have no idea what he has after he limp-call. It could be as high as JJ.

As played, I'm not calling there. I don't want to be possibly drawing to a split, and if I hit I won't get much value at all, and villain can play perfectly against me.

Easy fold. I'm far behind his range, so I'm drawing, and this draw sucks. Simple.




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AK against 43/6/1: must bet the turn for value against weaker Ks, you can fold to a raise at any point but you are missing value checking anywhere this is a great board to stack off KT. Against a nittier player turn check is fine, but not vs a calling station.

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I guess you have a point there. Sometimes these guys turn their hand (KQ) into a bluff on the turn, so I don't want to get in that spot. But yeah, I could be missing value there.

OTOH, he might bet Kx himself on the turn and then I can lead the river or c/c on the river.

The way I played it, I may get some value from other hands, and villain may also bluff the turn with a float (though he's only 0.8 so that doesn't really count). But he probably pays off middle-pps.

Again, this is an oop situation that I'm a bit conservative. Possibly needs some work.



Thanks for the feedback.


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