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scv 10-03-2007 01:15 PM

Can anyone solve this?
 
I dont know if its the right forum but i'm competely stuck on this one. Anyone got any idea?

http://www.illvet.se/htm/IQTest/sv/images/matrix15n.gif

Drag 10-03-2007 02:14 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I'd choose 1.

The number of areas separated by lines decreases from left to right.
4 2 1
8 4 2
3 2 ?
So only 1 fits this observation.

kevin017 10-03-2007 03:08 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
i also think it is number 1.

I had similar reasoning to the above answer except i was looking at columns. in column 1, the first and third block have two circles. in column 2 the first and third block have one circle. in column 3 the first and third block have no circles.

the middle block in each column i ignored. the above given answer complements mine

PLOlover 10-03-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
could be a 3d object looked at from various 2d angles or someting.

Stu Pidasso 10-03-2007 03:59 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
4.....I'll let other explain

Stu

jukofyork 10-04-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I dont know if its the right forum but i'm competely stuck on this one. Anyone got any idea?

http://www.illvet.se/htm/IQTest/sv/images/matrix15n.gif

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This is a tough one. Even after finally giving up and googling for "matrix15n.gif", I can't find any other's who definitively show the solution:

http://www.mensa.no/forum/index.php?...f=8&t=2092

http://www.hifisentralen.no/forum/in...topic=15092.45

http://filosofiforum.com/phpBB2/view...=45&t=3849

(if you don't speak Norwegian [like me], then you will need this to get a gist of what they are saying).

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

scv 10-04-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I speak swedish so np. I liked Drag's idea but wasnt convinced. Reading those links it seems like #3 is the sollution but noone seems to understand why [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I have to give it some more thought.

Jamougha 10-04-2007 12:27 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I think this problem is beyond the point where any specific solution is going to be compellingly correct.

pzhon 10-04-2007 01:34 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
This type of problem is primarily about guessing what the test maker thinks qualifies as a pattern. This is stupid.

kevin017 10-04-2007 03:49 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
if we're going based off reasonless guessing, i could see 3 being reasonable, but i think we can eliminate it down to 1 or 3. 2, 4, and 5 are too needlessly complex.

the only reasoning i can see for 3 is it follows a general pattern of simplifying, and it isn't as similar to the top right box as number one, which for all we know (reasonless guessing) matters for some reason.

scv 10-04-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I'm pretty sure if someone would explain it it would be obvious to everyone. This isnt like, oh well this one fits bets, lets choose this one.

madnak 10-04-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'm pretty sure if someone would explain it it would be obvious to everyone. This isnt like, oh well this one fits bets, lets choose this one.

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We can't know until we have the answer to evaluate. Where does it come from?

LuckOfTheDraw 10-04-2007 10:52 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I think its 2.

Broderick C. 10-05-2007 03:31 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I speak swedish so np. I liked Drag's idea but wasnt convinced. Reading those links it seems like #3 is the sollution but noone seems to understand why [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I have to give it some more thought.

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I'm going with #3 bc it the only answer that doesn't fit. It seems the other answers are very similiar to objects already in the big square. Whether it be a shift or rotation they all seem to fit with one of them except #3. #1 goes with top right, #2 with bottom middle,#4 with top left, and #5 with middle right.

soko 10-05-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'd choose 1.

The number of areas separated by lines decreases from left to right.
4 2 1
8 4 2
3 2 ?
So only 1 fits this observation.

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Took me awhile to understand what you were saying. Now that I understand I have to agree that this is a very convincing pattern and decided to make an image so other people could more easily understand.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7605/13528153jd1.jpg

JMP300z 10-05-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'd choose 1.

The number of areas separated by lines decreases from left to right.
4 2 1
8 4 2
3 2 ?
So only 1 fits this observation.

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Took me awhile to understand what you were saying. Now that I understand I have to agree that this is a very convincing pattern and decided to make an image so other people could more easily understand.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7605/13528153jd1.jpg

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this ignores the columns

soko 10-05-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'd choose 1.

The number of areas separated by lines decreases from left to right.
4 2 1
8 4 2
3 2 ?
So only 1 fits this observation.

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Took me awhile to understand what you were saying. Now that I understand I have to agree that this is a very convincing pattern and decided to make an image so other people could more easily understand.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7605/13528153jd1.jpg

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this ignores the columns

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I don't see your point. The columns are symmetrical so if they had any effect it would be equal throughout and wouldn't change the answer.

madnak 10-05-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
This isn't too compelling. Introducing a new pattern in the final row is confusing. Even if it were 4/2/1,8/4/2,4/2/x it would be a stretch. 16/8/4,8/4/2,4/2/x or 4/2/1,4/2/1,4/2/x would be good. But 4/2/1,8/4/2,3/2/x? A general trend toward a decrease in the number of shapes isn't enough of an indication of the pattern to represent a definite solution. 1 probably is the correct answer, but I think the puzzle is poorly-designed.

LuckOfTheDraw 10-06-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
Each row takes some of the circular/curved elements of the first square and all of the straight line elements of the third square and combines them to make the middle square. This is why I chose #2.

Edit: I also agree that all of the answers given in this thread are not very compelling, including mine. As with most of these types of questions, this one is poorly designed and really proves nothing of a person's intelligence.

hitch1978 10-06-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'm pretty sure if someone would explain it it would be obvious to everyone. This isnt like, oh well this one fits bets, lets choose this one.

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We can't know until we have the answer to evaluate. Where does it come from?

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Rastadon 10-08-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'm pretty sure if someone would explain it it would be obvious to everyone. This isnt like, oh well this one fits bets, lets choose this one.

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We can't know until we have the answer to evaluate. Where does it come from?

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It is from a Norwegian IQ test

http://www.illvit.no/htm/IQTest/no/

Max Raker 10-08-2007 05:55 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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Each row takes some of the circular/curved elements of the first square and all of the straight line elements of the third square and combines them to make the middle square. This is why I chose #2.

Edit: I also agree that all of the answers given in this thread are not very compelling, including mine. As with most of these types of questions, this one is poorly designed and really proves nothing of a person's intelligence.

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No way. If a person is really good at this things then they MUST be very smart.

I think a very smart person can also be bad or average as these things test a certain type of intelligence.

boracay 10-08-2007 07:17 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
1

DblBarrelJ 10-08-2007 08:31 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
It's 1.

ChrisV 10-08-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
Anyone who thinks they actually have the answer, give it in white. What's the point in just going "It's 1"?

CrushinFelt 10-08-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
doesn't matter which box you pick, they all make a pattern

hitch1978 10-08-2007 02:42 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'm pretty sure if someone would explain it it would be obvious to everyone. This isnt like, oh well this one fits bets, lets choose this one.

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We can't know until we have the answer to evaluate. Where does it come from?

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It is from a Norwegian IQ test

http://www.illvit.no/htm/IQTest/no/

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Damn you. I just did the whole first section including this one, in the vain hope of learning which one, and I only speak English!

Jamougha 10-08-2007 02:51 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I'm pretty sure if someone would explain it it would be obvious to everyone. This isnt like, oh well this one fits bets, lets choose this one.

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We can't know until we have the answer to evaluate. Where does it come from?

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It is from a Norwegian IQ test

http://www.illvit.no/htm/IQTest/no/

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Damn you. I just did the whole first section including this one, in the vain hope of learning which one, and I only speak English!

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What did you score?

hitch1978 10-08-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I dunno? I did all the picture puzzles then a load of Norwegian words appear (like, what did I expect) with four written options which I didn't understand. I thought it was a written part of the test so I didn't even bother continuing.

I'm pretty sure I got between 100% and 100% correct up until that point.

This is a joke ^^

Splendour 10-08-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
I think it's #2.

hitch1978 10-08-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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I think it's #2.

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Thanks for clearing that up. Someone can lock this now.

Bataglin 10-08-2007 05:36 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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This is a tough one. Even after finally giving up and googling for "matrix15n.gif", I can't find any other's who definitively show the solution:

http://www.mensa.no/forum/index.php?...f=8&t=2092

http://www.hifisentralen.no/forum/in...topic=15092.45

http://filosofiforum.com/phpBB2/view...=45&t=3849

(if you don't speak Norwegian [like me], then you will need this to get a gist of what they are saying).

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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According to a post in one of the links above, the answer is #3. No explanation was given, seems like nobody had any clue there either.

When I took the test, I picked #1, for reasons similar to those mentioned early in this thread (scored 132).

I don't know why #3 is correct.

Some9 10-08-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 

think outside the box

all make some sense except 3. so 3 it is.

LuckOfTheDraw 10-08-2007 07:08 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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think outside the box

all make some sense except 3. so 3 it is.

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But, that makes no sense.

hitch1978 10-08-2007 07:14 PM

Re: Can anyone solve this?
 
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think outside the box

all make some sense except 3. so 3 it is.

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But, that makes no sense.

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That makes sense.


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