Flopping trip tips
 

I am completely getting owned in the last few months on flopped trip hands. Sometimes out of one of the blinds and other times in other positions it is a SC hand like 78s etc. I wonder if there is some leak in the way I play them. I normally try and play them fast cause sometimes my kicker is weak(maybe the leak right there). They are vulnerable yet can be powerful hands at the same time cause of the boat draw. Wish I had specific hand examples but the results have been the same. Any of you like to impart some trip wisdom upon the Frond? Not a BB vent but I am losing way too many chips on these hands & would like to work on this. I'll hang up now

Gracias

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Play them fast.

Use reads when appropriate.

Run better.

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I actually play them fast because no one ever folds. Sometimes I play them a bit too fast. I already have an image of being tight with a good hand reading skills, and apparently raising on the flop doesn't give the game away but three-betting it does.

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They are vulnerable, so you pretty much have to play them fast. Isolate c/r when you're positive someone will bet behind you. However, if you get 3-bet on the flop or raised on the turn by a normally passive player, calling down is probably the way to go. I'm guessing this is probably what you already have been doing though.

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Easy to see when some other monkey at the table is jumping up and down in their seat about flopping trips if they give u a bunch of action and your kicker is weak I would just call down. Happened to me a while ago even when I turned trips w/ top kicker and just called down after 3-bet. Had A10 on a board of Q 10 6 10 2 or something like that and after turn he was going ape and i pretty much put him on a boat or something just called down and won vs his K10, gotta gauge it sometimes and dont go to crazy.

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Reckon they don't call KT a trap hand for nothing, eh?

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And obviously on 4straight/4flush boards you have to be willing to fold to any kind of significant action, unless you're getting boat pot-odds.

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If you flop the bottom end, or if there's a draw, play it really fast. If the other card on the board is lower than yours, and there is no good draw out, you can slow down a bit.

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Last night I had an easy fold in a flopped trip hand. I had Q3 in the BB, checked my option and the flop came 33A, SB(Old tightie)bet into me I raised, turn come another A, he says "if you have pocket 3's it will be interesting and checks to me I check River comes a Q!!! He bets I fold. I say I think you have AT but he shows me AJs. This one was easy to get away given his play from but normally it is a hand like this but with a flop like 33T and I lose to T3. Guess I have to learn when to slow down. Also i will have to keep better mental notes on who plys what more than I do so such as "this idiot plays T3o UTG" etc.

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Before you play convince yourself that you are gonna run goot.

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if he bet turn w/ no speech would u call? if he checked and bet river w/ no speech would u call? I realize him being tight makes decision easier.

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It was an easy fold if he bets at all with this flop. He was as tight passive as they come. Last year I never make this fold and lose way more chips.

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I had a hand like this last night. 64s in the big blind. 1 caller, LP raised, SB called, I called. Flop came A 4 4 rainbow. I bet out, LP raised, everyone else folded. I just called the bet, knowing that LP mostly definitely had ace and would bet again on the turn where I could cr him. Unfortunately the turn was another Ace.

Bottom line, depending on position and my read on the other players in the hand, I sometimes wait for the turn to protect/accelerate these hands. A bad card can ruin them, so waiting can sometimes save a bet or two, but my main reason is because raising on the flop usually leaves me with no options but betting out the turn and river, and I like being able to raise the bigger streets to protect my hand. Once someone bets and calls a cr on the turn, they are also too invested in the pot to fold one more on the river.

edit to add: If there's a flush or straight draw out though, I generally start raising as soon as humanly possible, hoping that someone else has a hand and helps me trap/force out the threats.

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I had a hand like this last night. 64s in the big blind. 1 caller, LP raised, SB called, I called. Flop came A 4 4 rainbow. I bet out, LP raised, everyone else folded. I just called the bet, knowing that LP mostly definitely had ace and would bet again on the turn where I could cr him. Unfortunately the turn was another Ace.

Bottom line, depending on position and my read on the other players in the hand, I sometimes wait for the turn to protect/accelerate these hands. A bad card can ruin them, so waiting can sometimes save a bet or two, but my main reason is because raising on the flop usually leaves me with no options but betting out the turn and river, and I like being able to raise the bigger streets to protect my hand. Once someone bets and calls a cr on the turn, they are also too invested in the pot to fold one more on the river.

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so you C/F the turn I assume

btw i play it the same.

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I meant easy fold on the turn not the flop, sorry.

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Big mistake in people's game is calling down here, what else is he betting here w/ i mean u are chopping like 30% of time and losing 70% of time.