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Big enough staff to be first class?
By Suzette Parmley

Inquirer Staff Writer

ATLANTIC CITY - Can a casino owner pare its staff so drastically that it can no longer run a "first-class" operation?
That is what the New Jersey Casino Control Commission, which regulates Atlantic City's gambling market, must decide about the owner of the Tropicana Casino & Resort in licensing hearings over the next week and a half.

In the commission's files are complaints from Tropicana customers about encountering bedbugs, roaches, overflowing toilets, and bathrooms that reeked of urine. The complaints were among information Tropicana management wanted to have excluded from the hearing.

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""They seem to think you can run a first-class facility on the cheap," he said. "But one person cleaning 10 bathrooms in an eight-hour shift is not an expectation of a first-class facility."

I'm trying to think if it's reasonable to clean a bathroom in 45 minutes... ?

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""They seem to think you can run a first-class facility on the cheap," he said. "But one person cleaning 10 bathrooms in an eight-hour shift is not an expectation of a first-class facility."

I'm trying to think if it's reasonable to clean a bathroom in 45 minutes... ?

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I would be AMAZED if it took more than ten minutes for a housekeeper to clean an average Hotel Bathroom.

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I wonder if they're talking about the public bathrooms located throughout the casino, and not hotel bathrooms.

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Ahhhh. Yes, that makes sense.

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tropicana ... first class... does... not... compute

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The decline started when they refused to compete against the Borgata and the Taj for the poker revenue. They should have expanded the room to the outer slot bank with about another thirty tables. They had 6/12, 10/20 games. They were doing a great job with the daily tourneys. What the hell happened?

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The decline started when they refused to compete against the Borgata and the Taj for the poker revenue. They should have expanded the room to the outer slot bank with about another thirty tables. They had 6/12, 10/20 games. They were doing a great job with the daily tourneys. What the hell happened?


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Isn't this a little game-centric?

There could be a slot forum out there somewhere sayin' "they hung tough for the slot revenue by keeping the outer slot bank near the poker room up and running."

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I wonder if they're talking about the public bathrooms located throughout the casino, and not hotel bathrooms.

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Ahhhh. Yes, that makes sense.

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The men's room outside the poker room is absolutely disgusting. I've found the hotel rooms to be pretty nice - not Borgata nice, but I've had no complaints.

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The decline started when they refused to compete against the Borgata and the Taj for the poker revenue. They should have expanded the room to the outer slot bank with about another thirty tables. They had 6/12, 10/20 games. They were doing a great job with the daily tourneys. What the hell happened?

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They also used to have a 10/20/30 stud, a 15/30/45 stud 8, and some Omaha games. The 6/12 & 10/20 HE games might just be casualties of the "poker boom", and the abundance of 1/2 NL games. I think the pink chip game is pretty much on life support now too, from what I've seen/read.

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The decline started when they refused to compete against the Borgata and the Taj for the poker revenue. They should have expanded the room to the outer slot bank with about another thirty tables. They had 6/12, 10/20 games. They were doing a great job with the daily tourneys. What the hell happened?

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They also used to have a 10/20/30 stud, a 15/30/45 stud 8, and some Omaha games. The 6/12 & 10/20 HE games might just be casualties of the "poker boom", and the abundance of 1/2 NL games. I think the pink chip game is pretty much on life support now too, from what I've seen/read.

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And that sucks!

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I think they are talking about one housekeeper cleaning 10 rooms in a shift. This is impossible to do for a first class property. The GF of a friend of mine is a housekeeper at Trump International in NYC and she cleans at most 4 suites in a shift. Most days it is 3.

BTW, here's a tip from her: Don't ever drink from the glasses in the bathrooms at hotels. Sometimes the housekeepers will clean them with dirty cloths.

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Yes it does. I occasionally play the 4/8 game there, it's better than any 3/6 game in AC (and Taj's 5/10) IMHO. I usually play Trop's 5/10 stud, which is also better than Taj's 5/10 games.
I didn't really play 6/12 or 10/20 when they spread it there, too big for me at the time. I'd definitely give them a shot now though.
I think everyone who plays poker somewhat seriously in AC should play the pink chip game at least once in their life...

I've always had a soft spot for the Trop, it's the first place I ever played poker in a casino. I really hope they can pull their head out of their a$%^s and turn it around. It's getting pretty sad over there. I'd rather not have to play at the Taj all the time....

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I wonder if they're talking about the public bathrooms located throughout the casino, and not hotel bathrooms.

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I think they are talking about one housekeeper cleaning 10 rooms in a shift. This is impossible to do for a first class property. The GF of a friend of mine is a housekeeper at Trump International in NYC and she cleans at most 4 suites in a shift. Most days it is 3.

BTW, here's a tip from her: Don't ever drink from the glasses in the bathrooms at hotels. Sometimes the housekeepers will clean them with dirty cloths.

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This man speaks the truth..on both points. I've heard worse about what gets used to clean the glasses.

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The decline started when Trop was bought by Columbia Sussex Corporation who then executed mass firings to trim costs and fatten the bottom line.

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i will never go there again after i specifically asked for a late checkout time (i was checking in at 2am) and they said sure, you can checkout at 1. great i thought, until at 9am i was awoken by what sounded like jackhammers going full blast. so i called the front desk and asked what the hell was going on on and she said what tower are you in? o yeah they're doing some construction. are you fing kidding me? place is a shithole

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The decline started when they refused to compete against the Borgata and the Taj for the poker revenue. They should have expanded the room to the outer slot bank with about another thirty tables. They had 6/12, 10/20 games. They were doing a great job with the daily tourneys. What the hell happened?

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Seriously, the Trop poker room has been bad (for all but the lowest stakes) since at least 2000. I played 10-20 there once in 2000, and it was me and nine of the most miserable people I've ever played against at the only 10-20 game that was running. There were no higher games running (and this is well before the Borgata). (I remember it was 2000, because all anyone else at the table was talking about was how George Bush was going to save the country from Al Gore). I haven't played there since.

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The last time I stayed at the Trop, only one out of four elevators was working as everyone was checking out. As you might imagine, this created somewhat of a congestion. It's not a good feeling to be practically trapped on your floor for half an hour. Incidentally, this is why it was my last time at the Trop.

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I was in AC yesterday. After playing some Craps at the Hilton, I walked down to the Trop. I was planning to play some 1/2NL shortstacked. I walked in and the room just had this horrible vibe, and I walked out.

A little OT, but for those that were questioning the possible BBJ at Tropicana, a floor person I spoke to said they were working on implementing one, but probably would not be up December 1. He stated the room manager has not received final approval from the "higher executives" yet, so they do not know when it will happen.

I also inquired about why they decided to implement a BBJ, and he said they were losing players to the Harrah's casinos so they had to do something to try and bring them back. (I didn't want to say Harrah's was not the competition, that it was Borgata and Trump Taj - I just smiled and said thanks for the update!)

I do not know how much to believe/not believe him, becuase the update came from a floor person, and he spoke to me as if I was buying a used car.

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I gave up on it over three years ago, a waste of time IMHO.

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Stayed there a couple times in the last year. Rooms are ok, but the common area's (stairway, vending area) look like housekeeping never set foot in them.

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I also had a bad experience at Tropicana, I woke up and went to the toilet and found a big head of an anaconda so I close the toilet seat and called maintenance, they looked at the toilet and it wasn't anaconda but green turds that I left without flushing. I ate mexican food that night and took a big dump, I knew I was just hallucinating.

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I always like the Trop. The first time I ever played 10/20 was at that place (also the last time I saw it run there). It was a great game (won about 20BB in an hour). Since it was my first time playing 10/20, I IMMEDIATELY cashed out. Surprisingly, there was no pink game running at the time. I've played the pink game couple times, killing the game for 30BB+ bets each time. I'm sad to see that it's non-existant now.

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My bus I took last weekend first stopped at the Trop. Only half of the bus went off. The other half went to the Taj, at the opposite end of the boardwalk. Usually, at least 85% of the people get off the bus at the first stop. Even the slot players know how bad the Trop is.

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