\"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

this match has been fairly quiet, he has 5bet shoved once where i folded after 4betting. he hasnt really been bluffing much (that i have seen) and he has checked the flop a few times. i have overbet some, but this is the first time i have overbet in this spot. he raised within 10 seconds, i took about 5seconds to bet the river. i took about 5 seconds on turn and he instachecked flop.

i dont think he ever has a flush, so that leaves A6, A4, 44, QQ. i dont think he plays 66 like this ever.

edit: he won a $1k stack when he flopped a set vs my 2 overs and fd in a rr pot and held.


Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $1,223
aejones (SB): $2,215.50

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">aejones raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, aejones checks

Turn: ($60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $120</font>, aejones calls $120

River: ($300) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $225</font>, <font color="red">aejones raises to $850</font>

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

why r u so sure that he doesn't have the flush .. cos he didnt bet the flop ? maybe with that flop he didnt want to be CR'd ..

He has u as pretty strong, I'm folding this.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

Yer not sure abwt this no flush, flop and turn i can also see pure air as part of his range, with river plans maybe? but iv only played a small amount vs him so not sure, air normally = nuts so A6?

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

Your range is pretty polarised with this line, no?

I'm sure jones is aware of this, so it seems a simple call/fold for him with his bluff catcher, doesn't make much sense for him to raise. So for that reason i fold.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

FOLD
AE doesnt bluff here

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

fold he has A6, river is bet-fold

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

I think this is QQ very often.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

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fold he has A6, river is bet-fold

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lol

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

I would fold, he's not raising for value. Your hand looks like an ace.
Does he expect you to lay down an ace ?
If yes you should be calling some of the time, since his raise is quite big I think he has it, flush or boat.
I think he would raise a made boat on turn so I lean towards flush or QQ.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

Don't think he calls that turnbet with a draw. So he either has a bluffcatcher or a monster. Don't think he turns a bluffcatcher into a bluff here. I would let it go.

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why r u so sure that he doesn't have the flush .. cos he didnt bet the flop ?

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He called 2x pot bet/10% stacks on turn. Doubt he had a flush draw.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

its a flush more often than an ace imo. based on flop but turn is weird. What are the dynamics of your overbets?

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

QQ.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

objectively, i would call, it's too hard for him to rep one hand

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

he'd continue with hearts on the flop imo

A6 or QQ are the only non-bluff hands here...

I don't think this really can be a bluff

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objectively, i would call, it's too hard for him to rep one hand

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aka good fold.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

seems like a fold to me, but thats a weird spot to be in. he's representing a very small range, but I don't think he'll bluffraise here too often. on the other hand, if he thinks you're 3-betting all of your aces preflop, he could definitely bluffraise here and even call the turn to set it up. so, i guess it depends on the flow and such.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

you guys are both retards for playing each other

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

so which one of you wise men was the aggressor in starting this heads up match?

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

so umm... u think he called the turn 2x pot bet just to set up a move on the river?

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

i think turn is really bad.

prob fold river

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

yeah this seems like a pretty easy fold yo.

i was surprised at how huge of a nit aejones was. almost every time i looked up a big bet on the river from he had it.

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i think turn is really bad.

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looks like we just fixed a huge leak in my game then eh?

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so which one of you wise men was the aggressor in starting this heads up match?

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so which one of you wise men was the aggressor in starting this heads up match?

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hi5

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

also what the [censored] is up with all the retarded game selection responses? are u implying jfish is bad? if jman posted it, would u say the same?

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

when someone says hes the second coming for so long people start to believe it despite the fact that the results were never there

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when someone says hes the second coming for so long people start to believe it despite the fact that the results were never there

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when someone says hes the second coming for so long people start to believe it despite the fact that the results were never there

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also what the [censored] is up with all the retarded game selection responses? are u implying jfish is bad? if jman posted it, would u say the same?

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my comment was directed to either of them. i dont understand why any two people who were winners at 3/6+ would play each other when there are so many bad players out there

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also what the [censored] is up with all the retarded game selection responses? are u implying jfish is bad? if jman posted it, would u say the same?

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my comment was directed to either of them. i dont understand why any two people who were winners at 3/6+ would play each other when there are so many bad players out there

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youve done this, id bet

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also what the [censored] is up with all the retarded game selection responses? are u implying jfish is bad? if jman posted it, would u say the same?

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my comment was directed to either of them. i dont understand why any two people who were winners at 3/6+ would play each other when there are so many bad players out there

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youve done this, id bet

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ya i realized in light of my current situation it prob sounds a bit hypocritical, but w/e

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when someone says hes the second coming for so long people start to believe it despite the fact that the results were never there

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agree

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yeah this seems like a pretty easy fold yo.

i was surprised at how huge of a nit aejones was. almost every time i looked up a big bet on the river from he had it.

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also agree

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

he prob had like TT and berated you for calling.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

Flip a coin aejones range is perfectly balanced.

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also what the [censored] is up with all the retarded game selection responses? are u implying jfish is bad? if jman posted it, would u say the same?

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my comment was directed to either of them. i dont understand why any two people who were winners at 3/6+ would play each other when there are so many bad players out there

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meh i think this is a bit silly, im actually surprised you say it considering you're a hu specialist.

there are tons and tons of winners at 6max that i would play all day at 5/10, 10/20 and 25/50 HU. [censored], basically every FTP 10/20 regular who has played me has quit me.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

snipes, quit being a nit, i have plenty of confidence in my game and so does jfish, and ec10 or whatever regulars i play. sure neither of us are winning a few hundred dollars an hour off each other, but it makes you somewhat better, i guess, and sometimes it's fun. really, when there's little edge, it comes down to who is playing less tables, who is less tilted, who is on their B game and not their C game, etc.

i'm basically saying that i would flip coins for $ i guess, but why not? neutral EV don't scare me

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

yeah i agree strongly with everything jonezer said there.

for example, ive played a couple 4 tabling HU sessions vs aejones (and this goes for any other competent winning player) but if i was just doing a normal session with 4-6 tables mixing 6max and HU i wouldn't want to have 1 hu table vs him.

Re: \"hrm\" spot vs aejones hu
 

to get back on to strat topic, i won't elaborate too much bc it's obv and you guys can draw your own conclusions, but i pretty much think the turn is terrible- i think i't svery very hard for someone to balance correctly when overbetting any street but the river.