25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

Ring game, but now 3 players sitting out. I've been playing pretty LAG for ring, like 20/15 since there a guy playing 60% of hands at the table. Opponent is decent player I know, playing pretty TAG, and I have RR'd his steal position raises a few times this session, with him folding each time.


Full Tilt Poker, $25/$50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $8,651
Hero (CO): $6,937
BTN: $4,925
SB: $5,588
BB: $2,319
UTG: $3,000

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $175</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $525</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $350

Flop: ($1,125) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $999</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $3,150</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???

Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

Fold. Continuing with this hand is committing our whole stack (which calling also does) in a situation where we are slightly ahead/way behind too often me thinks.

Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

stick it in

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theoretically you should never really be folding here, but im guessing he had AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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stick it in

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who was villan?( I think I was @ table, but may have been sitting out @ the time)

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who was villan?( I think I was @ table, but may have been sitting out @ the time)

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You were, and you were. It was Big Eye Fish.

Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

i think you can fold you are a little ahead or much behind, but a push is not bad also

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i think you can fold you are a little ahead or much behind, but a push is not bad also

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So he's NEVER bluffing?

Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

you(?) should never fold here

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I could find a fold vs him. He has you murdered or you're flipping like 95% of the time here.

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Big Eye Fish is not doing this with a hand that is less than 50/50 here.

Although I'm pretty sure you're crushed.

That being said: I'd still stick it in.

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I could find a fold vs him. He has you murdered or you're flipping like 95% of the time here.

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Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

Ok, it seems like most call/shove here, opponent notwithstanding. What kinds of hands are we expecting to see then?

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i stick this is all day.

Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

Totally villian dependent. Shove vs most regs.

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if you believe that he thinks you would make that follow through bet with just two high cards and he would raise you with a pair then play on.

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if you believe that he thinks you would make that follow through bet with just two high cards and he would raise you with a pair then play on.

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Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

Why would he make that awkward raise with a pair that Dali beats? What's wrong with c-cing the reraiser, if he hits an A or K so be it?

To the game theory guys, I think I'd want to have seen him do this and then fold, or do this and end up with like QT before I call/stick it in here.

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if you believe that he thinks you would make that follow through bet with just two high cards and he would raise you with a pair then play on.

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Quoting Ray Zee, way to stick yer neck out. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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theoretically you should never really be folding here, but im guessing he had AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If not, TT or AKd-ish?

Re: 25-50 ring: JJ raised on ten hi drawish flop.
 

Its time to let out the secret about this thread I think. I'm actually the hero, Dali is actually the villain, and we both know this. He was surprised by my call and asked if he could post the hand from my perspective. I've 3bet him a few times already in this session, probably not enough to give him the impression I'm going after him, but pretty often, and taken it down every time. How do you like the hand in this context?

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its a flip, shove.

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theoretically you should never really be folding here

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could you explain what you mean? Is it because JJ is in the top of your range and it would be easy to exploit you if you fold this hand?