Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
 

in this weeks PAD

"the best holdem player in the world is by far me, it's not even close, in tournaments and.. i mean there's some that are close to me in cash games.. i havent proved myself in the cash games.. i crushed all the holdem cash games for years.. but not at the super high limits"

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt? He should prove himself instead of all the talk, there's no doubt he's serious

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are you implying there's someone better?

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ZOMG unpossible do not speak such blasphelmuth

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The only reason that Phil wins more tournaments than anyone else is that he compulsively enters more tournaments than anyone else. Please discuss.

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The only reason that Phil wins more tournaments than anyone else is that he compulsively enters more tournaments than anyone else. Please discuss.

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How long have you got? Working out the meaning of life would most probably be faster.

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tbh he knows the game well and is probably the greatest reader.

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are you implying there's someone better?

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ZOMG unpossible do not speak such blasphelmuth

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lol, i second this

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

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i really think he is the best nl holdem player. not as fearless as someone like ivey, but hellmuth is better all around.

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Phil can dodge bullet baby!!!

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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago."

I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

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kaibuxxe = phil hellmuth??

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The only reason that Phil wins more tournaments than anyone else is that he compulsively enters more tournaments than anyone else. Please discuss.

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Discuss that you have no Idea what your talking about? Broke ass TJ Cloutier and Men Ngyuen play like every freckin 200 dollar buyin tourney they can

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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago."

I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm

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lol. why would preboom games be softer?

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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago."

I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm

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LOL, cash games pre-poker boom were much more difficult than today. It's also why you could rarely find a NL or PL game.

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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago."

I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm

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He didnt say all he said "the, but not super high limits" .... so prob 25/50 10 years ago is what he was refering to which he could still beat easily online or live his limit is probably no more than 1-200 at a successful win rate.

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Ivey's face is priceless

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Phil Helmuth - Great Player or Greatest Player ever?

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someone post a youtube link pls

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His book 'Play Poker Like The Pros' is also one of the best, if not the best poker book ever written IMO.

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The greatest players in the world don't tell the world they are the greatest, the greatest don't have to constantly say it. You see Ivey, Doyle or Chip constantly saying they are the best ? No because they don't need to. Their peers say it for them ... class imo

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If I ever learn how to dodge bullets baby, i will spend some of my winnings to get Phil his own TV channel so i can watch him 24-7.
But then again, i cant even spell poker...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enRsFz3LlOw

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Hellmuth----->http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...fpoint/lie.gif

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he has won like 11 wsop bracelets, including taking down the big one. how is this even debatable?

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he has won like 11 wsop bracelets, including taking down the big one. how is this even debatable?

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The only reason that Phil wins more tournaments than anyone else is that he compulsively enters more tournaments than anyone else. Please discuss.

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Actually, you're way off here. Phil plays almost exclusively 10k plus tournaments and WSOP tournaments and almost nothing else. Maybe back in the 90's he played a lot but he doesn't play many these days. It's also hard to argue with his comments (maybe not so much the cash game part) about tournaments. Most of the top pros agree he's if not the top, one of the top 5 tournament players when he's hungry to win and it means something.

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?


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uh, screenname?

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?


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uh, screenname?

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x100

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?


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uh, screenname?

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x100

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OMGurSBluigiiii

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Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt?

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he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge?

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kaibuxxe = phil hellmuth??

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kaibuxxe is/was Niki Jedlicka

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levelfest 2007

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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago."

I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm

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LOL, cash games pre-poker boom were much more difficult than today. It's also why you could rarely find a NL or PL game.

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Level? Please?

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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago."

I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm

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LOL, cash games pre-poker boom were much more difficult than today. It's also why you could rarely find a NL or PL game.

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Level? Please?

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srsly


Someone with a ton of NL experience back then was probably someone who had played like 10,000 hands lifetime. Now with all the info available, with people who have played millions of hands and studied the game with tools like Pokerstove (keep in mind the Hellmuth who apparently crushed these games was the same one who thought AKo was a favorite over AK suited).... geez pre-boom games must've been 5x softer.

If they were tough it would only be because they were incredibly nitty, or maybe you could argue that there's so much more just complete dead tourist money today in live games, but still with not even the best players being that good by today's standards, NL back then must've been cake.

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Phil Hellmuth is also in the top 3-4 Ohama8 and Razz players in the world, in addition to being the premier Hold'Em player in both tournaments and the side games.

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Phil Hellmuth is also in the top 3-4 Ohama8 and Razz players in the world, in addition to being the premier Hold'Em player in both tournaments and the side games.

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Phil Hellmuth is also in the top 3-4 Ohama8 and Razz players in the world, in addition to being the premier Hold'Em player in both tournaments and the side games.

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lmao

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It seems to me that Phil MAY be the best holdem tourney player in the world versus weak/average players, but from what I hear, most good+ players don't respect his game versus them. Cash games, he sucks. Period. He can make some decent plays, as can anyone with a passing knowledge of the game. He has innumerable times offered to play someone hu for $100k-1M, and has NEVER actually done it when the challenge was accepted. Pretty telling right there.

Dunno why this keep coming up, and REALLY dunno why I am responding to it.

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When are we going to get Helmuth's FTP screen name already?