This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

Villain is NosferatuMan, runs at like 18/15 or something around there. He seems pretty decent and we haven't had any real history before this. I was sort of tilting at the time, but I don't think he knows this.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $1,134.15
UTG: $400
CO: $418
BTN: $929
SB: $336

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($82) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $68</font>, Hero calls $68

River: ($218) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $128</font>, Hero calls $128

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

I think I would fold this PF to a tight UTG raiser. I don't think you are good too often on the river here...

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

Fold PF. You got valuetowned. Holla.

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Fold PF. You got valuetowned. Holla.

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Fold preflop? Why?

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uh...a nit/tag opens UTG. hero has KQo OOP.

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

Not sure where you should fold, but you should do it somewhere. You have the best hand on the river so rarely. Folding the turn vs a good TAG should be right.

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

it is 5 handed and preflop is ok but i think river is a fold

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uh...a nit/tag opens UTG. hero has KQo OOP.

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The day when playing 18/15 is a 'nit' is the day I quit poker. He's raising any pocket, suited broadways, some suited connectors but not all, and premiums of course.

Also, call the river. Great odds, and he's vbing worse(QJ bets here all day thinking you're playing sheriff with a pocket pair)/bluffing with missed draws occasionally.

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

I think the only hand he is vbetting worse at the very bottom end of his range is QJs. And this is still probably rare.

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So, he's vbetting AQ, QJ, KK, and AA.

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Not sure where you should fold, but you should do it preflop. You have the best hand on the river so rarely. Folding the turn vs a good TAG should be right.

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Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

If you're folding KQ preflop here, you realise that you can't call with any suited connectors, or hands like AT either?

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isnt it obvious?
i mean its kinda obvious to me not to call those hands oop vs really tight utg raiser.

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18/15 is not tight. Its 5 handed.

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the only thing standard about this hand is the one way ticket to valuetown that your opponent gave you with AQ, yo.

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I could see a turn call when villain puts you on a medium PP and tries to push you off. When he bets river again for half pot I don't think you are ever good anymore. So I would fold river.

Preflop is a fold probably, you could also 3bet 5 handed. Folding is the safe, standard way though.

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fold preflop or 3bet it

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the only thing standard about this hand is the one way ticket to valuetown that your opponent gave you with AA yo.

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I think preflop is a fold vs a 18/15, but how would you guys play AQ here?
Call preflop and call river?

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the only thing standard about this hand is the one way ticket to valuetown that your opponent gave you with KK yo.

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Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

18/15 really isn't that tight. He is opening fairly wide UTG, not only premiums. I like a riverfold though. He has to be bluffing a lot to call profitably. His valuebetting range has us crushed even if he is betting QJs always and QTs half the time on the river. I'm not sure if he opens KQo 100% or not.

Board: 7c Qc 7d 3s 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.667% 06.67% 10.00% 2 3.00 { KhQd }
Hand 1: 83.333% 73.33% 10.00% 22 3.00 { QQ+, 77, 33, AQs, KQs, QJs, QcTc, QdTd, AQo, KQo }

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

fold pre fold river

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

fold pre

Re: This be standard, yo? 400NL
 

Word okay that's what i figured. I was on super hxc monkeytilt last night when i played that so i just was like TOP PAIR CALLLll.

He showed 78hh btw.