AA laydown
 

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $644.06
UTG: $241.95
sh58 (MP): $213.15
CO: $260.48
BTN: $199
SB: $188

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to sh58 (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">sh58 raises to $8</font>, CO calls $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">sh58 bets $18</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $61</font>, 2 folds

Results: $61 Pot

opponent is 20/15/3. call PFR% is 4. raise Cbet% is 6

he has 3bet me about 4 times so far and i 4bet him once with A9o and he shoved and i folded. i don't see him bluffing me much as he is probably worried i would shove on him light as i have been beaten up pretty badly by everyone on this table

standard fold?

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standard fold?

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No, I think you are thinking too much into the history of aggression.

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if youve both been very aggressive, why are you deciding to fold the one time you have the top of your range?

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easy push

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You have the A of hearts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] push.

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You have the A of hearts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] push.

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surely that means sets are a larger part of his range.

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if youve both been very aggressive, why are you deciding to fold the one time you have the top of your range?

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no postflop history, only preflop.

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You have the A of hearts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] push.

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surely that means sets are a larger part of his range.

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I agree, but history makes me more inclined to go all the way with this hand.

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if youve both been very aggressive, why are you deciding to fold the one time you have the top of your range?

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Agreed, push it son!

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what range are you guys putting him on?

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combo draws def are the biggest part of his range as i think he calls raises either with sc or small pp. imo we can discount 1010 from villain´s range and then you´re left with 33 and 55. That makes 6 combos for sets.
Imo this is kind of close and a fold isn´t too bad/good
this prob is a quite close spot ev wise. pushing has an advantage in the future though...

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How many hands do u have on villain?

A PFR call% of 4 seems ridiculously low

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combo draws def are the biggest part of his range as i think he calls raises either with sc or small pp. imo we can discount 1010 from villain´s range and then you´re left with 33 and 55. That makes 6 combos for sets.
Imo this is kind of close and a fold isn´t too bad/good
this prob is a quite close spot ev wise. pushing has an advantage in the future though...

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we basically need 6 combos of combo draws to give us enough equity here for this to not be a fold. I really doubt of pfr call % of 4 holds enough heart combo hands that get played this way to make up for the 6 set combos that are played like this. So as long as you can rule out other cheese from his range a fold looks good to me.

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Easy push.
cmon man...i verry rarely see 33 or 55 here..

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easier push if we didn't have the Ace of heart. If you're going to continue, I like calling and pushing over a blank turn. Whether to call or fold is pretty close...if you think he check-raises ATo, then I like continuing with the hand.

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opponent is 20/15/3. call PFR% is 4. raise Cbet% is 6

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Good fold. It seems other guys still don't use the stats enough. With these numbers sets are very possible and draws are not much in his range.

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How lightly have you been calling his 3-bets?

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How lightly have you been calling his 3-bets?

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haven't called one cos he has been doing it mostly in pos, that;s why i tried a light 4bet which he shoved on.

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How many hands do u have on villain?

A PFR call% of 4 seems ridiculously low

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this is over 1200 hands. fyi 4% isn't ridiculously low. i think a normal TAGs range is usually about 4-8%

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Dude shove it and love it, there are soooo many draws and worse pairs he could have here.

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If they are beating up on you and taking advantage of you and everything, I happily get it in here.

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tank, call, c/r any turn AI.

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This is a marginal spot but your ahead of his range, get it all in. Raise &gt; Fold &gt; Call

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Isnt this a situation where you are either up against a set or flush draw (possibly flush draw/straight draw combo), with the draws more likely? If so, is it terrible to call the flop raise and push a non heart turn?

Is his reaction to a heart turn worth considering? If a heart comes is there a significant chance he will check behind with a non nut flush after you called the flop raise, giving you a chance to hit a heart on the river or is this never happening? And if this is the case, I suppose we wont make enough from him to justify calling the flop anyway... im a bit confused...

Or are there too many cards that can hit him on the turn to make calling the worst play?

Im new to this forum and havnt posted before so sorry if this is horrible thinking. I would usually just go over the top of him on the flop. I feel I play small/medium pots fairly well, but most of my losses come from badly played "big" pf hands (AA - QQ) and want to examine other options.

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I think I go with it here b/c I have the feeling he has the capacity to do this as a stone bluff and with draws. It looks really strong to raise into you with the other guy in to the pot, if he is capable of thinking at this level definitely AI. He could showup with like JJ here too, not very well played but its possible imo