(Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
After losing about 35 buyins yesterday at 20+2 in 6 hours (100 games, 4-14-8, worst bad beats of my life) I was a little on tilt and fired up two 200+15 SNGs. The play was surprisingly bad so that I found myself 4-handed with healty stacks. Unfortunetely I bubbled both. I'll post my complete hand historys of 4 handed play. Any comments or help what I might have done better is greatly appreciated.
TABLE 1 ******* Hand 1 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t8460 Button: t2130 Hero: t4530 BB: t4880 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 folds, Hero folds, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: t200 ******* Hand 2 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t2130 Hero: t4330 SB: t5080 BB: t8460 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in t2130</font>, Hero folds, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: t1530 returned to UTG. Results: Final pot: t1500 ******* Hand 3 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: t4330 Button: t4780 SB: t7860 BB: t3030 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t4780</font>, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: t4180 returned to Button. Results: Final pot: t1500 <font color="#ffffff">Button shows Kc Kd </font> ******* Hand 4 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t5680 Button: t7560 SB: t2430 Hero: t4330 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t1200</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t600 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: t1200 ******* Hand 5 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t7560 Button: t3030 Hero: t3730 BB: t5680 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in t7560</font>, Button folds, Hero folds, BB folds. Uncalled bets: t6960 returned to UTG. Results: Final pot: t1500 ******* Hand 6 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t3030 Hero: t3430 SB: t5080 BB: t8460 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t3430</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t4780</font>. Uncalled bets: t1650 returned to SB. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t4630, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t7460) Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t4630, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t7460) River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t4630, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t7460) Results: Final pot: t4630 <font color="#ffffff">SB shows As Jd </font> <font color="#ffffff">Hero shows Kd 3d </font> TABLE 2 ******* Hand 1 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t6040 Hero: t4940 SB: t3730 BB: t5290 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t400 returned to . Results: Final pot: t200 ******* Hand 2 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t6040 Hero: t4940 SB: t3730 BB: t5290 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t975</font>, SB folds, BB calls t575 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1575)</font>. Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2150, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t1200</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: t2150 ******* Hand 3 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: t3965 Button: t3530 SB: t6465 BB: t6040 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Hero folds, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: t200 ******* Hand 4 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t3530 Button: t6265 SB: t6240 Hero: t3965 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t1200</font>, 2 folds, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t800 returned to UTG. Results: Final pot: t1000 ******* Hand 5 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t6265 Button: t6040 Hero: t3565 BB: t4130 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t2400</font>, Button folds, Hero folds, BB folds. Uncalled bets: t2000 returned to UTG. Results: Final pot: t1000 ******* Hand 6 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t6040 Hero: t3365 SB: t3730 BB: t6865 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, Hero folds, SB folds. Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: t200 ******* Hand 7 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: t3365 Button: t3530 SB: t7065 BB: t6040 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero folds, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: t200 ******* Hand 8 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t3530 Button: t6865 SB: t6240 Hero: t3365 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t6040</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t5840 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: t800 ******* Hand 9 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t6865 Button: t6640 Hero: t2965 BB: t3530 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t6640</font>, Hero folds, BB folds. Uncalled bets: t6240 returned to Button. Results: Final pot: t1000 ******* Hand 10 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t7240 Hero: t2765 SB: t3130 BB: t6865 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, Hero folds, SB calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t600)</font>, BB checks. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players) SB checks, BB checks. Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players) SB checks, BB checks. River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players) SB checks, BB checks. Results: Final pot: t800 <font color="#ffffff">SB shows Td 7d </font> <font color="#ffffff">BB shows 2d 8h </font> ******* Hand 11 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: t2765 Button: t2730 SB: t7265 BB: t7240 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero folds, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t1200</font>, BB folds. Uncalled bets: t800 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: t800 ******* Hand 12 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t2730 Button: t7665 SB: t6840 Hero: t2765 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t6540</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t6240 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: t1200 ******* Hand 13 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t7665 Button: t7440 Hero: t2165 BB: t2730 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t7440</font>, Hero folds, BB folds. Uncalled bets: t6840 returned to Button. Results: Final pot: t1500 ******* Hand 14 ******** Party Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t300/t600 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t8340 Hero: t1865 SB: t2130 BB: t7665 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1865</font>, SB folds, BB calls t1265 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2765)</font>. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t4030, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4030) Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t4030, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4030) River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t4030, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4030) Results: Final pot: t4030 <font color="#ffffff">BB shows 5s 7c </font> <font color="#ffffff">Hero shows 4h Ad </font> |
Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
1st sng
Hand 2 you can call with the 55 unless you have some read you aren't telling us about. His range for pushing here is going to be wide enough that we can call. Rest look standard 2nd sng Don't like hand 2, seems like spew. Rest looks good |
Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
Bankroll Management.
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Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
In hand 8 on table 2 i might consider a call. You cant afford to be much more shortstacked now, then your FE disappears and you will end up in a coinflippish situation like hand 14.
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Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
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In hand 8 on table 2 i might consider a call. You cant afford to be much more shortstacked now, then your FE disappears and you will end up in a coinflippish situation like hand 14. [/ QUOTE ] Thats a bad call even if he is pushing any2. |
Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
Ok, maybe I should have called with 55... but I don't like calling with small pairs and put me into coinflips. 77 or 88 and I'm in of course...
The 2-2.5 BB raise always works at 20+2... Maybe people understand pot odds and the higher level. Bankroll Management: I still had $1000 left (on PartyPoker) after losing $700 at the 22s (and more on Neteller and Stars)... still not a good idea to play 3 215s and 3 55s though... that left me with $430. [censored] happens. |
Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
is shoving sng 1 hand 1 bad?
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is shoving sng 1 hand 1 bad? [/ QUOTE ] nope, that looks like a push. I wasn't too sure because im used to having antes, but even without this looks like an ATC push. |
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Pushing 11bb with 74o from the small blind when there is a short stack?! SNGPT says this is only barely corret if his calling range is extremly tight...
Maybe I could have raised to 3bb and folded to a reraise?! |
Re: (Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!
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No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t200/t400 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t3530 Button: t6865 SB: t6240 Hero: t3365 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 5 A 2 folds, SB raises all-in t6040, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t5840 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: t800 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In hand 8 on table 2 i might consider a call. You cant afford to be much more shortstacked now, then your FE disappears and you will end up in a coinflippish situation like hand 14. [/ QUOTE ] Thats a bad call even if he is pushing any2. [/ QUOTE ] I follow your line at the tables, but it finds me too often short stacked and in lack of any FE. So I am thinking that my calling range might be too tight? |
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Pushing 11bb with 74o from the small blind when there is a short stack?! SNGPT says this is only barely corret if his calling range is extremly tight... Maybe I could have raised to 3bb and folded to a reraise?! [/ QUOTE ] try it from his POV with you pushing any2. He can't call you here with barely anything. |
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Regarding hand 1 sng 1, people still talk about Nash Equilibrium anymore? I don't even have SNGPT or any of that anymore, but if you guys don't know how to do it you should figure it out.
I have posted instructions at least once. |
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Pushing 11bb with 74o from the small blind when there is a short stack?! SNGPT says this is only barely corret if his calling range is extremly tight... Maybe I could have raised to 3bb and folded to a reraise?! [/ QUOTE ] Well if he knows what he's doing he can hardly call with anything there, which is why its a good push. It's bad if he doesnt know what he's doing though |
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