Borg 20 KQs hand w/ \"The Professor\"
 

A few people posted in the Foxwoods thread about this kid Eric who they call The Professor. He's shown up at the Borg a few times to the chagrin of the regulars. I have played with him for about two hours and my preliminary reads are that he's TAGish with weak tendancies, possibly the most annoying person I've ever met, and VERY VERY bad for the game since he annoys both the bad regulars and the fish. This is my only hand with him.

I can't sleep and have noticeably moved from the 40 game after playing two hands 'cause I'm tired. My image is in between TAG and LAG, but my PF raises have been real and I'm really only playing more hands because the game is very good. I've already seen him turn over some trashy hands in weird positions and think he may be a tad bit steamed because he's arguing with everyone and keeps taking full racks of reds to color-up to black. (Another reason he's bad for the game)

I think we're seven-handed. He opens in CO and I 3bet on the button with KhQh, folded to villian who calls.

Flop Ac-Kc-4x
He checkraises me and I think for a minute, decide I'll reevaluate on the turn and call.

Turn (Ac-Kc-4x)-9x
He checks, I pause and check.

River (Ac-Kc-4x-9x)-7x
He checks...

Comments on all streets welcomed as well as reads on the professor.

-Blake

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God I hate this guy. I played w/ him at the 50-100 at foxwoods a few weeks ago. his personality is really unbearable. i remember him being weak-tight both pre and postflop, but he might've been taking a shot. anyways, in the actual hand, you have to bet the turn. given that you didn't, i would bet the river and hope he convinces himself to call w/ a flush draw that paired up or a weaker king.

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anyways, in the actual hand, you have to bet the turn.

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I am interested to hear why this is a must bet?

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Me too - I think it's an easy check. I'm curious who this guy is because I can't place him - I'll have to check out the Fox thread.

Jeff

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TAGish with weak tendancies,

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Flop c/r - Turn ch seems to reinforce your read. Your turn ch is ok although against that type of player, and a fl dr out, I'd rather bet the turn and ch behind on river. Rather then ch behind turn and either bet or call the river.

Buying up racks and coloring up to black. Cue Bowie - Ground Control to Major Tool.

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I'd much rather bet the turn and check the river on that board and given your read.

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God I hate this guy.

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for real. the most annoying person I've ever played with and that's saying a hell of a lot.

I would bet the turn, I'm guessing he had some big draw on the flop like QJ/QT/JT club. or maybe a king. I'd bet the turn and check behind on the river. as played I would not bet the river, I dont think you're getting paid off by a worse hand - he'd pay off with a king or a PP after that turn check but I really doubt he plays the flop that way.

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I'm curious who this guy is because I can't place him

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btw, by chance, is he asian?

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This guy?

http://www.shoeimages.com/images/new..._professor.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Ray

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I love that show.

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I'm curious who this guy is because I can't place him

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btw, by chance, is he asian?

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No. He's a young looking white kid who wears a backwards cap all the time.


Jeff,
You may or may not remember me from the Taj and Borg last year, but we know each other pretty well. I haven't seen you in a while, probably because I'm playing mostly during the week, but if I see you I'll say hello and point him out if possible.

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lol. is that kid really a balla!? looks so tiny and frail. i think he played college in OR or something?

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lol. is that kid really a balla!? looks so tiny and frail. i think he played college in OR or something?

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AND1 MixTape Street Baller's web page.

Ray

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What if he check/raises the turn. Calling down or givin it up?

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This kid is the worst person for the game I have ever come in contact with.

"how do you call that!!"
"Thats' all? Ha, you're giving me money!"
"He's getting X:X and he still called! HOW?!"

It's incredible that he thinks he's so smart,and doesn't understand where his money is coming from.

I hope you won this hand and he was flabbergasted at your line every street.

ps. I check the turn and bet or call the river.

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What if he check/raises the turn. Calling down or givin it up?

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If I bet the turn and get CR'd I think it's an easy fold. Even though he shouldn't be very willing to let a free one slide off, whether he sees me as loose or tight, he should know I'm aggressive and am betting lots of hands here. (Which I failed to do and regretted immediately).

Part of the reasoning behind my check was not wanting to get pushed off a five-outer and being pretty sure that he wasn't pushing a draw on the flop.

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This kid is the worst person for the game I have ever come in contact with.

"how do you call that!!"
"Thats' all? Ha, you're giving me money!"
"He's getting X:X and he still called! HOW?!"

It's incredible that he thinks he's so smart,and doesn't understand where his money is coming from.

I hope you won this hand and he was flabbergasted at your line every street.

ps. I check the turn and bet or call the river.

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This is the line I ended up taking. My pause on the turn was when I decided that I was betting any river if he checked it to me (including any club). My main reasoning was not wanting to turn my hand over (90%) and maybe he calls with KJ or less (10%). Not that I played the hand super deceptively, but he rates to be the kind of player who is going to look you up more often after you take one down uncontested, and if I lost I was planning to start trying to play lots of pots with him and start firing away. Unfortunately, he left not too long after he called the river and won with A8o.

Luckily he gave me a crash course on how well he played the hand and then told me how "even though it might have looked light," my middle pair calldown against another pro was probably right. I sure am glad he explained that one to me after I'd already done it and scooped the pot.

Thanks for the comments so far.

-Blake

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I have played with "the Professor" quite a bit at Foxwoods. He is actually a nice kid away from the table, but in cancer for any game as jkamowitz pointed out. He constant berating of bad players and talking strategy at the table encourage all bad players to play better.

In the had I would definetely bet this turn and easily fold to a turn checkraise as I don't find him to bet tricky enough to pull a turn checkraise with a draw here. I have seen him make weird raises such as raising out of small blind blind with K-10 off in a six way limped pot but doubt he would pull a turn checkraise with a draw in this situation. I would check river behind if he calls and muck if he bets and a club hits.

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Yeah this kid is really annoying. He's pretty weak/tight and is at best breakeven and that's only because most of the other folks suck. I'm happy to have him on my right.

Anyway, against him, when he checks the turn there is a good enough chance that he'll show you his "good fold" and muck to a turn bet that it's worth it to fire. That is assuming that you haven't been caught in a bluff recently. Also he could c/r a draw on the flop, hoping that the A is a scare card for you, so I'm not going to want him to get a free card here.

When he calls the turn, he either has a draw or the weak A that he did have, so there is no value in an unimproved river bet. If he donks the river, I think you have a pretty easy fold.

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Semi-weak doesn't begin to describe, I assure.

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Me too - I think it's an easy check. I'm curious who this guy is because I can't place him - I'll have to check out the Fox thread.

Jeff

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LOL. somebody's getting old.