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Performify 10-17-2007 11:42 PM

*** OFFICIAL 10/22/07 NFL MNF GAME THREAD (IND @ JAC)***
 
IND @ JAC

rush66 10-22-2007 08:01 AM

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Jax ML +155 at bodog. Leaning under.

Spleen 10-22-2007 12:55 PM

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Someone talk me out of the Colts -3

brendanb438 10-22-2007 01:06 PM

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Don't bet it Spleen. It is just like with the Steelers last night. Play the o/u instead if you can't play the Jags.

n2p 10-22-2007 01:09 PM

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road favorite, public team, facing a team motivated to play a national game

ClockWyze 10-22-2007 01:12 PM

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Someone talk me out of the Colts -3

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Wait till game time. let the donks bet indy. Hammer jax +3 maybe even 3.5 and enjoy the profit.

CrushinFelt 10-22-2007 01:59 PM

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There's probably too much hype on JAX right now for the line to move (i'd love 3.5). fwiw all anyone can seem to talk about is the "toughness" of the Jaguars and their run game. I haven't really heard anything about Indy (other than Clark maybe?).

n2p 10-22-2007 02:05 PM

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you can get +3.5 now on bodog

CrushinFelt 10-22-2007 02:18 PM

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And actually the more I look at this game the more I like Indy at -3. Even against THE Peyton Manning, JAX feels like a BSP.

"I tell you what Bob, that maw-reece drew feller and fred taylor sure are tough runners. They gonna pound it on Indy all game long. And that Jaguars D? Whoooo----eeeee yessir they sure are tough... too tough for them Colts."

They're getting 154 rushing yards per game but 26, 35, 47, 34, and 18 (against Tennessee), attempts per game. It's not like they are the running equivalent of the Patriot's passing game. They're probably around 4.8 YPC which is really good but they have faced KC, Houston, Atlanta, and Denver, all of whom have worse rushing defenses than Indianapolis.

I think it comes down to whether or not Indy gets on the board early. If they do and JAX has to abandon the running game, they're SOL. The only way for JAX to stay in the game is to not let Indy get a lead, which will be hard because JAX's pass D is middle of the road.

I haven't decided either way yet for sure (may depend on line moves), but I think at -3 I'll be taking Indy.

Bored at work, thought I'd throw this out there.

People_Mover 10-22-2007 02:18 PM

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what makes you a donk if you bet Indy? Indy's offense trumps Jax's offense and defenses are about even. As long as Indy can stop the run, they should cover no problem.

FGators 10-22-2007 02:28 PM

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I know the donks are all over the Colts but I really really don't see how they don't win this game. the colts are definitely going to be hungry to keep this game alive and they understand that a lot of the so called experts like the Jaguars in this game.

CrushinFelt 10-22-2007 02:31 PM

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I know the donks are all over the Colts but I really really don't see how they don't win this game. the colts are definitely going to be hungry to keep this game alive and they understand that a lot of the so called experts like the Jaguars in this game.

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This is like next level BSP-ness... like you are trying to so hard to not be BSP that you end up being BSP? lol

zOrO2k6 10-22-2007 02:49 PM

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The computer says that colts win this game by 0.266 points even with the bye week and all that zhiat, the best math pick here is jags +3.5; Why everybody r betting colts? maybe they just like their blue lines like the ones i have on my bedroom walls (yeah im a colts fan). no ML for me, just Jags +3.51u and Over 451u.

GL ALL.

J_Treez 10-22-2007 02:56 PM

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If I'm leaning strongly towards betting the over not considering the weather, how much should I let the %40 chance of thunderstorms affect that play?

rsigley 10-22-2007 02:58 PM

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on

jags +3.5 -110
dallas clark u59.5 receiving -115
maurice jones-drew o105.5 rushing+receiving -115

peyton manning o4.5 commercials -125

silentbob 10-22-2007 03:03 PM

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dallas clark u59.5 receiving -115

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With the uncertain status of Marvin Harrison (who's a GTD), I would stay away from any props involving Colts receivers.

zOrO2k6 10-22-2007 03:06 PM

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Rain = Fumbles = Over.

this game smells fishy
anyway, just 2 units for me at this MNF.

n2p 10-22-2007 03:07 PM

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peyton manning o4.5 commercials -125

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is this still available?

mogwai316 10-22-2007 03:08 PM

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peyton manning o4.5 commercials -125

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is this still available?

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No, it was only up for a day or so. Pretty sure they got slammed on the Over. I got in at -155.

n2p 10-22-2007 03:09 PM

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damn seems like a fun bet

BJLTNYK 10-22-2007 04:02 PM

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Really like the Colts here...especially as has been said if they can jump out to a lead early. Garrard has been very solid making few mistakes but doesn't really have the receivers to play catchup. If the Indy D can stuff MJD and Taylor then I could see Indy blowing this one open a bit. And obviously if Harrison somehow plays thats a huge + for Indy as well.

Eegah 10-22-2007 05:14 PM

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Every square in the world will be rushing to the window/phone to bet Indy. Approaching 70% on Wagerline.

Jags +3.5

cata1yst 10-22-2007 05:20 PM

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I guess I am a donk. I am taking Indy -3.5. Manning in the national spotlight. Ship it.

Colts 34
Jags 21

iggymcfly 10-22-2007 05:29 PM

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It seems like Indy's definitely the BSP side and that Jacksonville's the obvious play, but I'm not sure. Jacksonville just seems overrated to me. They've got the best scoring defense in the league, but are only 10th in total defense which says to me that they've gotten pretty lucky with teams blowing it in the redzone and with the timing of their turnovers. They've also played a really weak schedule with not one potent offense in the bunch.

I think Indy being more motivated than usual counters any typical extra home advantage for Monday night and with the power ratings liking the Colts by 1, I think Jacksonville being overrated due to the breaks they've gotten this year should probably push that to about 3 which just so happens to be the exact line.

mogwai316 10-22-2007 05:29 PM

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Just picked up Jacksonville +4 -115 on Bodog.

CrushinFelt 10-22-2007 05:32 PM

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It seems like Indy's definitely the BSP side and that Jacksonville's the obvious play, but I'm not sure. Jacksonville just seems overrated to me. They've got the best scoring defense in the league, but are only 10th in total defense which says to me that they've gotten pretty lucky with teams blowing it in the redzone and with the timing of their turnovers. They've also played a really weak schedule with not one potent offense in the bunch.

I think Indy being more motivated than usual counters any typical extra home advantage for Monday night and with the power ratings liking the Colts by 1, I think Jacksonville being overrated due to the breaks they've gotten this year should probably push that to about 3 which just so happens to be the exact line.

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So what about 3.5 iggy? ;p

I think I may parlay Colts -3.5/Over and Jags +3.5/Under. If Jags keep it close it's because they are grinding the [censored] out of the clock. If the Colts get a lead then the Jags may have to give up their normal game a bit, which will lead to more Colt posessions (which = pts pts pts!).

CrushinFelt 10-22-2007 05:32 PM

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God damn it, I'm at work where I can't bet and the line is moving away from me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Witzo 10-22-2007 05:35 PM

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I took Indy last night when they were -3.5(105). I paid the extra juice to move the line to -3 though [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

kioshk 10-22-2007 05:37 PM

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Every square in the world will be rushing to the window/phone to bet Indy. Approaching 70% on Wagerline.

Jags +3.5

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All the squares have been betting NE all season long.

zOrO2k6 10-22-2007 05:39 PM

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Vegas already make their money yesterday with Broncos and Vikings, but anyway... i can't see vegas lose 3 consecutive MNF.

-JC

kaboshedx 10-22-2007 05:42 PM

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Vegas already make their money yesterday with Broncos and Vikings, but anyway... i can't see vegas lose 3 consecutive MNF.

-JC

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Great analysis as usual from you

Needle77 10-22-2007 05:42 PM

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dallas clark u59.5 receiving -115

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With the uncertain status of Marvin Harrison (who's a GTD), I would stay away from any props involving Colts receivers.

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If there is one prop I'd jump on its D. Clark on the over. Teams have attacked the Jaguars safeties, which tend to be TE's on seam routes. Schaub missed some passes to his TE's and Huard hit Gonzalez all day. Reggie Nelson has played pretty well for a rookie and Sammy Knight has done some good things, but that is clearly the weakest part of the defense.

I have said it all weak that I'm sure Manning sat in a film for the bye week and just was salivating at the mouth of Clark tearing up those safeties.

zOrO2k6 10-22-2007 05:51 PM

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if you want to write zhit like "Great analysis as usual from you", take a notepad.. if you have some fkng thoughts about this fkn game post comments about the "Game" don't post personal feelings, there is some places like happycouple.com. fkn [censored],.

YTD
58-17-2

if you want comments pay me $15 per comment, if you have nothing to say, just "read" and keep that finger in ur azz.

brendanb438 10-22-2007 06:08 PM

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If he pays you $15 per comment then it would be a win/win situation for you zOrO. You either win your bet, or lose your bet and are still up like $10 on your silly redneck comments. Are you offically a tout now?


Also I thought you were a man of your word, you quit this site on 3 occasions. Why are you still here?

React1oN 10-22-2007 06:29 PM

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Damn this really seems like a tough bet.

siccjay 10-22-2007 06:33 PM

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YTD is not the abbreviation for Lies to Date.

zOrO2k6 10-22-2007 06:35 PM

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2u on Jax +4(+100) (using the free $100 from OddsMaker)

ain't put my own money at this game.
"if" i win, let's see if Oddmaker pays.

enjoy the game.

-JC

React1oN 10-22-2007 06:42 PM

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Can you still get $100 free from Oddsmaker?

Ray_bob 10-22-2007 06:48 PM

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just got Jags +5 thanks to everyone thats bets with my bookie takin the colts. i am litterally the only person taken the jags for my bookie tonight. he takes bet from 40-50 people. lol im either the only smart one or the biggest donk. we will find out tonight.

rush66 10-22-2007 06:52 PM

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Vegas already make their money yesterday with Broncos and Vikings, but anyway... i can't see vegas lose 3 consecutive MNF.

-JC

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Z,

I get the point you are trying to make, but lets look at this more closely. The money they made on Minn, they lost on NE. The money they made on Denver, they lost on NYG. They won money on Zona, but lost on KC. Made a little on Det and lost a little on Jets.

They make their money on Jax tonight. So your play Jax +4 is correct. Just wanted to throw my input in there.

Great analysis as usual from you

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