Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

PokerStars Game #8080428274: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 04:06:55 (ET)
Table 'Rosalind' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: javel ($9392 in chips)
Seat 2: McSketch ($9265 in chips)
Seat 4: Ian J ($13611 in chips)
Seat 5: Nemo234 ($13770 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($20999 in chips)
javel: posts small blind $100
McSketch: posts big blind $200
tommyboy83: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Jc 9h]
Ian J: folds
Nemo234: calls $200
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $400
javel: calls $300
McSketch: calls $200
Nemo234: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [3d 8s Qc]
javel: checks
McSketch: checks
Nemo234: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** TURN *** [3d 8s Qc] [3s]
javel: checks
McSketch: checks
Nemo234: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** RIVER *** [3d 8s Qc 3s] [4d]
javel: checks
McSketch: checks
Nemo234: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
javel: shows [6c 2c] (a pair of Threes)
McSketch: shows [2s Ts] (a pair of Threes - Queen+Ten kicker)
Nemo234: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks: shows [Jc 9h] (a pair of Threes - Queen+Jack kicker)
PapaWarbucks collected $1595 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1600 | Rake $5
Board [3d 8s Qc 3s 4d]
Seat 1: javel (small blind) showed [6c 2c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: McSketch (big blind) showed [2s Ts] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 4: Ian J folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Nemo234 mucked [7d 6d]
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (button) showed [Jc 9h] and won ($1595) with a pair of Threes

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

gotta take Nemo to valuetown on the river methinks

oh, and can mods lock threads from other forums?

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

Here's a cool one

PokerStars Game #8080477899: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 04:16:46 (ET)
Table 'Rosalind' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: javel ($5990 in chips)
Seat 2: McSketch ($10751 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($23374 in chips)
McSketch: posts small blind $100
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [2d Ac]
javel: raises $200 to $400
McSketch: folds
PapaWarbucks: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [6h 6d 9h]
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
javel: calls $200
*** TURN *** [6h 6d 9h] [3c]
PapaWarbucks: checks
javel: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [6h 6d 9h 3c] [Kc]
PapaWarbucks: checks
javel: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
javel: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [2d Ac] (a pair of Sixes)
javel: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $3698 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3700 | Rake $2
Board [6h 6d 9h 3c Kc]
Seat 1: javel (button) mucked [Jc Td]
Seat 2: McSketch (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) showed [2d Ac] and won ($3698) with a pair of Sixes

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

2nd hand is nice, seems like my coaching lessons are proving to be a good investment, but u need to v bet river in hand one. Move down before such mistakes cost you your roll.

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

sick river c/r in hand 2

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

I just don't get HSSH limit....

Seriously, how does a guy like the 2nd guy even have $$$? Is that anywhere NEAR a proper river call?

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

um, schneids, how is it there are a billion "im busto" or horrible down swings posts in bbv, and you come here and post "i won a 4-way pot with j high"? are you just magical or what?

oh, and who is nemo, i heard he was a huge fish but he seems to always be on huge games

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

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I just don't get HSSH limit....

Seriously, how does a guy like the 2nd guy even have $$$? Is that anywhere NEAR a proper river call?

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he must've saw me call with jack high and win on my other table



PokerStars Game #8080464933: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 04:14:11 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: McSketch ($9652 in chips)
Seat 5: ramil007 ($14173 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($25371 in chips)
McSketch: posts small blind $100
ramil007: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Js 7d]
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $400
McSketch: folds
ramil007: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [2s Ts Tc]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
ramil007: calls $200
*** TURN *** [2s Ts Tc] [Ks]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s Ts Tc Ks] [Kd]
ramil007: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ramil007: shows [8s 7c] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
PapaWarbucks: shows [Js 7d] (two pair, Kings and Tens - Jack kicker)
PapaWarbucks collected $2098 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2100 | Rake $2
Board [2s Ts Tc Ks Kd]
Seat 2: McSketch (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ramil007 (big blind) showed [8s 7c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (button) showed [Js 7d] and won ($2098) with two pair, Kings and Tens

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

everytime i see schneids at c-bury, i wanna go talk to him. but then i get too nervous. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

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everytime i see schneids at c-bury, i wanna go talk to him. but then i get too nervous. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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me too.

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everytime i see schneids at c-bury, i wanna go talk to him. but then i get too nervous. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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me too.

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lol. i played with you twice. i know who you are. you don't know who i am. is that creepy to you?

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everytime i see schneids at c-bury, i wanna go talk to him. but then i get too nervous. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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me too.

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lol. i played with you twice. i know who you are. you don't know who i am. is that creepy to you?

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yes.

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I just don't get HSSH limit....

Seriously, how does a guy like the 2nd guy even have $$$? Is that anywhere NEAR a proper river call?

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he must've saw me call with jack high and win on my other table



PokerStars Game #8080464933: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 04:14:11 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: McSketch ($9652 in chips)
Seat 5: ramil007 ($14173 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($25371 in chips)
McSketch: posts small blind $100
ramil007: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Js 7d]
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $400
McSketch: folds
ramil007: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [2s Ts Tc]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
ramil007: calls $200
*** TURN *** [2s Ts Tc] [Ks]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s Ts Tc Ks] [Kd]
ramil007: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ramil007: shows [8s 7c] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
PapaWarbucks: shows [Js 7d] (two pair, Kings and Tens - Jack kicker)
PapaWarbucks collected $2098 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2100 | Rake $2
Board [2s Ts Tc Ks Kd]
Seat 2: McSketch (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ramil007 (big blind) showed [8s 7c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (button) showed [Js 7d] and won ($2098) with two pair, Kings and Tens

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Well, at least that J hi call makes some sense, The other one just seems like he paid $400 to see what you CR the river with, ( a possibility, I guess)

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I just don't get HSSH limit....

Seriously, how does a guy like the 2nd guy even have $$$? Is that anywhere NEAR a proper river call?

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he must've saw me call with jack high and win on my other table



PokerStars Game #8080464933: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 04:14:11 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: McSketch ($9652 in chips)
Seat 5: ramil007 ($14173 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($25371 in chips)
McSketch: posts small blind $100
ramil007: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Js 7d]
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $400
McSketch: folds
ramil007: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [2s Ts Tc]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
ramil007: calls $200
*** TURN *** [2s Ts Tc] [Ks]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s Ts Tc Ks] [Kd]
ramil007: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ramil007: shows [8s 7c] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
PapaWarbucks: shows [Js 7d] (two pair, Kings and Tens - Jack kicker)
PapaWarbucks collected $2098 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2100 | Rake $2
Board [2s Ts Tc Ks Kd]
Seat 2: McSketch (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ramil007 (big blind) showed [8s 7c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (button) showed [Js 7d] and won ($2098) with two pair, Kings and Tens

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Well, at least that J hi call makes some sense, The other one just seems like he paid $400 to see what you CR the river with, ( a possibility, I guess)

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Dali, try to come up with "legit" hands that c/r that river. Kx of hearts is probably played a little faster than that, so you're left with small pp's (same problem) and hands that can't beat anything and are looking for a fold.

EDIT - plus, his donk flop - chkcall turn combo is pretty weird in itself.

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

Yeah dali my A high was meant to be a bluff. Shows how good my player reads are at times.

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Yeah dali my A high was meant to be a bluff. Shows how good my player reads are at times.

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Work on those reads, some day your title may change to 4bb/100.

(I don't know why, I just get the biggest kick out of that title)

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I just don't get HSSH limit....

Seriously, how does a guy like the 2nd guy even have $$$? Is that anywhere NEAR a proper river call?

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he must've saw me call with jack high and win on my other table



PokerStars Game #8080464933: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 04:14:11 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: McSketch ($9652 in chips)
Seat 5: ramil007 ($14173 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($25371 in chips)
McSketch: posts small blind $100
ramil007: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Js 7d]
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $400
McSketch: folds
ramil007: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [2s Ts Tc]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
ramil007: calls $200
*** TURN *** [2s Ts Tc] [Ks]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s Ts Tc Ks] [Kd]
ramil007: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ramil007: shows [8s 7c] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
PapaWarbucks: shows [Js 7d] (two pair, Kings and Tens - Jack kicker)
PapaWarbucks collected $2098 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2100 | Rake $2
Board [2s Ts Tc Ks Kd]
Seat 2: McSketch (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ramil007 (big blind) showed [8s 7c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (button) showed [Js 7d] and won ($2098) with two pair, Kings and Tens

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Well, at least that J hi call makes some sense, The other one just seems like he paid $400 to see what you CR the river with, ( a possibility, I guess)

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Dali, try to come up with "legit" hands that c/r that river. Kx of hearts is probably played a little faster than that, so you're left with small pp's (same problem) and hands that can't beat anything and are looking for a fold.

EDIT - plus, his donk flop - chkcall turn combo is pretty weird in itself.

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Even still, he is behind a LOT of the hands that even are bluffing there. I can;t imagine calling river CR's jack hi, even vs schnieds, is going to win anywhere NEAR 1 in 8 times. But again, me no get limit anymore.

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

Schneids,

For $100, every time you're the OP in a BBV thread, I'll convert the hand for you. Let me know.

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

This just in:
PokerStars Game #8080881509: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 05:46:39 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Lars-Magne ($7771 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($48699 in chips)
Lars-Magne: posts small blind $100
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Lars-Magne: raises $200 to $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $600
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 6d]
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 6d] [5s]
PapaWarbucks: bets $400
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $800
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $1200
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $1600
Betting is capped
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [Ac Th 6d 5s] [9s]
PapaWarbucks: checks
Lars-Magne: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
Lars-Magne: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [8h 7h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Lars-Magne: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $6398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6400 | Rake $2
Board [Ac Th 6d 5s 9s]
Seat 2: Lars-Magne (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) showed [8h 7h] and won ($6398) with a straight, Six to Ten

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

At least show some good hands too then.

PokerStars Game #8080911631: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 05:53:40 (ET)
Table 'Sigelinde' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: ramil007 ($9073 in chips)
Seat 3: valesco ($11328 in chips)
Seat 4: PapaWarbucks ($16007 in chips)
Seat 6: piejay ($9057 in chips)
piejay: posts small blind $100
ramil007: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Ad Qs]
valesco: folds
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $400
raisetfp joins the table at seat #1
piejay: folds
ramil007: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Qh Kc 7d]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
ramil007: raises $200 to $400
PapaWarbucks: calls $200
*** TURN *** [Qh Kc 7d] [3s]
ramil007: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
ramil007: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [Qh Kc 7d 3s] [7s]
ramil007: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $400
ramil007: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [Ad Qs] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
ramil007: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $4095 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4100 | Rake $5
Board [Qh Kc 7d 3s 7s]
Seat 2: ramil007 (big blind) mucked [4d Qd]
Seat 3: valesco folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PapaWarbucks (button) showed [Ad Qs] and won ($4095) with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 6: piejay (small blind) folded before Flop





PokerStars Game #8080871468: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 05:44:20 (ET)
Table 'Sigelinde' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: ramil007 ($8693 in chips)
Seat 3: valesco ($12500 in chips)
Seat 4: PapaWarbucks ($11190 in chips)
Seat 6: piejay ($13177 in chips)
PapaWarbucks: posts small blind $100
piejay: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Th 7h]
ramil007: raises $200 to $400
valesco: folds
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $600
piejay: calls $400
ramil007: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [3h 4c 9h]
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
piejay: raises $200 to $400
ramil007: folds
PapaWarbucks: calls $200
*** TURN *** [3h 4c 9h] [7s]
PapaWarbucks: checks
piejay: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
piejay: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [3h 4c 9h 7s] [Qs]
PapaWarbucks: bets $400
piejay: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [Th 7h] (a pair of Sevens)
piejay: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $4995 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5000 | Rake $5
Board [3h 4c 9h 7s Qs]
Seat 2: ramil007 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: valesco (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PapaWarbucks (small blind) showed [Th 7h] and won ($4995) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 6: piejay (big blind) mucked [5s 5d]

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

Standard.

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

I almost asked, but then I clicked and learned that the Mike Schneider who's sitting w/ 165k chips at WPT Tunica is from Covington, GA. You are from the Sub-Arctic.

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

I nominate a title change for Schneids: "Keeping limit alive in BBV"

Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

teach me or something

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everytime i see schneids at c-bury, i wanna go talk to him. but then i get too nervous. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Re: Awesome [not the typical schneids hand]
 

schneids,

suppose pokerbob and i were to approach you to invite you to a delicous grilled cheese sandwich and krispy kreme. do you suppose you would acknowledge us?

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I feel like javel played this hand really well but forgot one of the Clarkmeister rules and should have 3 bet the river just in case. Also, your flop bet, turn check/call just blew my mind and I don't think anyone properly appreciates how useful that line might be. I vow to use it the next time I play a toughish game at least once.

-DeathDonkey

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schneids,

suppose pokerbob and i were to approach you to invite you to a delicous grilled cheese sandwich and krispy kreme. do you suppose you would acknowledge us?

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Why don't you just drop to your knees and suck him off?

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I feel like javel played this hand really well but forgot one of the Clarkmeister rules and should have 3 bet the river just in case. Also, your flop bet, turn check/call just blew my mind and I don't think anyone properly appreciates how useful that line might be. I vow to use it the next time I play a toughish game at least once.

-DeathDonkey

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hope i'm not stepping on mikey's toes here or bringing too much strat to bbv, but the flop donk, turn check/call line is useful where there are a LOT of river cards that can come that will allow you to make bluffing more profitable (by keeping the pot small). in this case, any A, any h (or apparantly to mikey) any K make such a bluff good (either by betting out or c'ring) and in this individual hand, opponent may check other better a hand behind (better a-highs...no pair is ever checking).

counter argument is that mikey should let opponent use those cards to bluff since his hand is v showdownable. personally, i'd choose this one as i'd think villian would bet the river with plenty of hands that i beat w/ Ahigh but i can't imagine hands that he'd bet/fold that are better than ace high given the line mikey took. if i were villian and i had a pair that was value betting, i'd say "king high flush draw good" and call with my low pair and/or AJ/AQ ish hands b/c there are plenty of straight draws and heart draws there that donk flop/check call turn and make sense. it even makes sense to bet the AQhigh for value + allow a good player a chance to bluff c'r especially if you're seen as a folder given the # of draws out there and how the hand was played.

v-betting the good a highs makes sense b/c the way mikey played looks like either one of 2 things, 1) a draw which may include an ace of hearts, or may want to use the K as a chace to bluff (if you're seen as a folder, which i am), 2) a weaker ace that wants to get to showdown and doesn't want to get raised off.

end strategy mumbo jumbo.

Barron

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barron,

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hope i'm not stepping on mikey's toes here or bringing too much strat to bbv... words words words

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you failed miserably.

but that was still a hell of a post.

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schneids,

suppose pokerbob and i were to approach you to invite you to a delicous grilled cheese sandwich and krispy kreme. do you suppose you would acknowledge us?

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woah! let's not get ahead of ourselves, we don't even know each other yet.
Why don't you just drop to your knees and suck him off?

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This just in:
PokerStars Game #8080881509: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 05:46:39 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Lars-Magne ($7771 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($48699 in chips)
Lars-Magne: posts small blind $100
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Lars-Magne: raises $200 to $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $600
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 6d]
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 6d] [5s]
PapaWarbucks: bets $400
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $800
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $1200
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $1600
Betting is capped
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [Ac Th 6d 5s] [9s]
PapaWarbucks: checks
Lars-Magne: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
Lars-Magne: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [8h 7h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Lars-Magne: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $6398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6400 | Rake $2
Board [Ac Th 6d 5s 9s]
Seat 2: Lars-Magne (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) showed [8h 7h] and won ($6398) with a straight, Six to Ten

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I never could do limit, let alone this high, but why would you cap the flop with a gutshot and three flush?

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*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1600 | Rake $5


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wtf, is this normal?

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This just in:
PokerStars Game #8080881509: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 05:46:39 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Lars-Magne ($7771 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($48699 in chips)
Lars-Magne: posts small blind $100
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Lars-Magne: raises $200 to $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $600
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 6d]
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 6d] [5s]
PapaWarbucks: bets $400
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $800
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $1200
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $1600
Betting is capped
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [Ac Th 6d 5s] [9s]
PapaWarbucks: checks
Lars-Magne: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
Lars-Magne: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [8h 7h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Lars-Magne: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $6398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6400 | Rake $2
Board [Ac Th 6d 5s 9s]
Seat 2: Lars-Magne (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) showed [8h 7h] and won ($6398) with a straight, Six to Ten

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I never could do limit, let alone this high, but why would you cap the flop with a gutshot and three flush?

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I have spotted a leak in your limit game: That was the turn. It's important to know what street you're on.

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*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1600 | Rake $5


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wtf, is this normal?

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Yes, rake is capped at $5 in $200/$400+, instead of $3.

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I feel like javel played this hand really well but forgot one of the Clarkmeister rules and should have 3 bet the river just in case. Also, your flop bet, turn check/call just blew my mind and I don't think anyone properly appreciates how useful that line might be. I vow to use it the next time I play a toughish game at least once.

-DeathDonkey

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hope i'm not stepping on mikey's toes here or bringing too much strat to bbv, but the flop donk, turn check/call line is useful where there are a LOT of river cards that can come that will allow you to make bluffing more profitable (by keeping the pot small). in this case, any A, any h (or apparantly to mikey) any K make such a bluff good (either by betting out or c'ring) and in this individual hand, opponent may check other better a hand behind (better a-highs...no pair is ever checking).

counter argument is that mikey should let opponent use those cards to bluff since his hand is v showdownable. personally, i'd choose this one as i'd think villian would bet the river with plenty of hands that i beat w/ Ahigh but i can't imagine hands that he'd bet/fold that are better than ace high given the line mikey took. if i were villian and i had a pair that was value betting, i'd say "king high flush draw good" and call with my low pair and/or AJ/AQ ish hands b/c there are plenty of straight draws and heart draws there that donk flop/check call turn and make sense. it even makes sense to bet the AQhigh for value + allow a good player a chance to bluff c'r especially if you're seen as a folder given the # of draws out there and how the hand was played.

v-betting the good a highs makes sense b/c the way mikey played looks like either one of 2 things, 1) a draw which may include an ace of hearts, or may want to use the K as a chace to bluff (if you're seen as a folder, which i am), 2) a weaker ace that wants to get to showdown and doesn't want to get raised off.

end strategy mumbo jumbo.

Barron

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nice post

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Why did you raise the turn with AQ in the second hand, was he raising you with middle pair and draws a lot in this particular session?

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2nd hand is nice, seems like my coaching lessons are proving to be a good investment, but u need to v bet river in hand one. Move down before such mistakes cost you your roll.

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lolll

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This just in:
PokerStars Game #8080881509: Hold'em Limit ($200/$400) - 2007/01/23 - 05:46:39 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Lars-Magne ($7771 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks ($48699 in chips)
Lars-Magne: posts small blind $100
PapaWarbucks: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Lars-Magne: raises $200 to $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $200 to $600
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Ac Th 6d]
PapaWarbucks: bets $200
Lars-Magne: calls $200
*** TURN *** [Ac Th 6d] [5s]
PapaWarbucks: bets $400
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $800
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $1200
Lars-Magne: raises $400 to $1600
Betting is capped
PapaWarbucks: calls $400
*** RIVER *** [Ac Th 6d 5s] [9s]
PapaWarbucks: checks
Lars-Magne: bets $400
PapaWarbucks: raises $400 to $800
Lars-Magne: calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaWarbucks: shows [8h 7h] (a straight, Six to Ten)
Lars-Magne: mucks hand
PapaWarbucks collected $6398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6400 | Rake $2
Board [Ac Th 6d 5s 9s]
Seat 2: Lars-Magne (button) (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: PapaWarbucks (big blind) showed [8h 7h] and won ($6398) with a straight, Six to Ten

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I never could do limit, let alone this high, but why would you cap the flop with a gutshot and three flush?

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I have spotted a leak in your limit game: That was the turn. It's important to know what street you're on.

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exploit it!!!

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hand 2 is nice, rest looks standard and pretty boring.