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ajmargarine 10-31-2007 03:56 PM

uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
I'm going to pull up some hands that I played back when I was playing NL50 and post them so folks can practice hand reading. I'm not going to be real selective and the hands aren't going to be anything special. Zero in on Hero and see if you can put me on a small hand range.

Because these hands are old, we have no reads on the villains. And our read on Hero is that he is a reg playing 20/16/4 or so and seems to know what he's doing most of the time.

gogogogogo

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Hand 1

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $52.45
Hero (BTN): $64.50
SB: $124.85
BB: $59.95
UTG: $36
MP: $106.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.50 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $23.95 and is All-In

River: ($120.15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

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Hand 2

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $56.25
BB: $29.75
UTG: $52.40
CO: $49.85
Hero (BTN): $52.05

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.50, CO folds

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, SB calls $11

River: ($36.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.80 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $19.80

Results: $106.35 Pot ($3 Rake)

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Hand 3

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $50.75
BB: $55.95
UTG: $58.75
MP: $48.70
Hero (CO): $72.20
BTN: $50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, MP calls $4.50

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50

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Hand 4

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $52.90
BB: $38.85
Hero (UTG): $50
CO: $135.35
BTN: $75.75

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8

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Hand 5

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $50
UTG: $59.95
MP: $74.25
Hero (CO): $165.95
BTN: $60.45
SB: $81.80

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $5.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $76.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $47.80

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Hand 6

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $60.30
UTG: $283.80
MP: $7.15
Hero (CO): $50.70
BTN: $51.10
SB: $49.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, UTG calls $13.50

River: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $29.20 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $29.20

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Hand 7

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $52.30
SB: $80
BB: $51.45
UTG: $53.80
MP: $51.25
CO: $35

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7

River: ($26.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

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Hand 8

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $77.90
CO: $79.25
BTN: $55.65
SB: $55.80
BB: $46.40
Hero (UTG): $53.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

River: ($12.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

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Hand 9

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $51.05
Hero (UTG): $64.90
MP: $59.35
CO: $75.50
BTN: $57
SB: $64.65

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.75</font>, CO calls $4.75

Turn: ($14.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $54.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.15 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $3.40

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Hand 10

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $78.05
UTG: $38.65
Hero (CO): $74.70
BTN: $30.15
SB: $60.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $72.05 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $57.70 and is All-In

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Hand 11

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $52.55
BTN: $78.75
SB: $51.25
BB: $19.85
UTG: $53.60
MP: $58.70

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($12.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $38</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46.55 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $8.55

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Hand 12

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $52
MP: $47.65
Hero (CO): $97.05
BTN: $49.25
SB: $249.25
BB: $68.15

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

PJo336 10-31-2007 04:06 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
[ QUOTE ]
And our read on Hero is that he is a reg playing 20/16/4 or so and seems to know what he's doing most of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

lil cocky? lol jk, im doing this aft my test 2nite

MrWooster 10-31-2007 04:09 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
My sick reading skills tell me you have AK in all of them [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

iheartponeez 10-31-2007 04:21 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1 - AQ, QQ, AA
2 - 33? I can't put you on anything else, and even that seems iffy with the turn bet. With a set or less it seems weird to shove this river, but maybe you have 55 or 44 as well?
3 - AJ+ (but probably not AQ cause you would bet the turn there) most likely.
4 - 44, Axh, Jx, Qx? The last two I'm not really sticking to.

I might do more later, but I dunno if I'm making a fool of myself already.

MJK08 10-31-2007 04:28 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Here are my guess for your range.
1.AQ,QQ,99,77
2.44,55
3.AK
4.33,44
5.JJ,AK
6 89d
7.A8,99
8.AT,66-99
9.AhJh,JJ,55,66
10. 88,T8,98
11 KQ,66,33
12 AT,QT,JT

monkover 10-31-2007 04:31 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
ty for doing this aj!
I tried to keep the ranges as norrow as possible.



hand1: 10Jcc,AK,AQ,AA,QQ,77,KJcc
hand2: 44,55 kind of hard to put you on any other hands
hand3: AK,QK,AJ,A10 maybe QJ
hand4: AA,AK,KQ not really a lot of other hands in your utg opening range i suppose---&gt; i messed up this one: misrea

hand5: AK,JJ,QKdd,77,910dd,89dd
hand6: can´t really come up with a hand except fds
hand7: 89,99,1010,A8
hand8: 99 really only [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] i´m prob missing sth though... You prob cbet the fd right?
hand9: JJ-AA and somtimes AKhh
hand10: 89,78,88
hand11: 33,66,45ss,QKs
hand12: 44,66,88,99,78,56

z28dreams 10-31-2007 04:55 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
I'll probably start with just a few of these. Damnit AJ.

Hand 1: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] all in on river hand

Overall line: raise pf, bet flop, b3b turn - aggressive

preflop: range is super wide here, raising from the button
flop: still pretty damn wide as this is an easy c-bet
turn: you bet and were called on the flop, and when checked to were willing to take another stab. You were also c/raised, and willing to shove on top.

I'd say your range on the turn now is pretty tight. 77,QQ,AA,AQ. A9,99 also possible. The board is really drawy, so I'm not sure if you'd play AK this way, esp. since you're facing a turn raise. I suppose it's possible you have something like K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], but you probably would have just called the turn raise.

Best guess: AQ

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Hand 2: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] all in on river
overall line: cold call preflop, bet flop, bet turn, raise river all in. very aggressive.

Preflop: You're cold calling here on the button to a CO raise. Due to the lack of a reraise, I'm ruling out QQ-AA, and AK. Possibly even able to rule out 99-TT and AQ.

Flop: 3 players to the flop, and you're not afraid to bet. Here your hand looks like A9,AT,AJ, possibly Ax suited (A5,A4). Diamond draws are also possible ( KQs,KJs,JTs,98s,87s,76s, etc). Sets also very possible - 44,55.

Turn: The board has 2 FD's, and it's checked to you. If you were drawing here with diamonds you probably would check behind. You bet though, so it looks like you are probably holding a big hand or an ace (44,55,A9+)

River: This is an interesting card. A 3 now gives anyone the straight - of course it's not a likely holding preflop.
After 2 streets of check/calling, the SB comes alive and fires 1/2 pot.

What do you have? A;spade:3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] quite possible since you bet the turn. You'd probably just call with 2 pair here, but I'm not really sure. Hmmmmm....

Best guess: [censored]. I dunno. 55?
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Hand 3: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] passive line
overall line: raise pf, bet flop, check turn, call river
- this feels like a WA/WB line without even reading the details.

Preflop: CO raise the limper, broad range here
Flop: Only 2 to the flop, very wide again because we could c-bet
Turn: The board has 3 hearts out, and we check behind. It's now unlikely we have a Queen or a big hand (set, 2 pair, etc).
River: The ace is an interesting card. Villain leads here after playing very passive, and we're willing to call. There's no raise, so we didn't make the flush draw. I'm guessing you have something like 99-JJ or a weak queen (QT,QJ). An ace isn't unreasonable either, given the c-bet / check turn / call river line. This could be A9-AK.

Best guess: AJ

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Hand 4: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] pot control
Overall line: raise pf, bet flop, check turn, bet river

preflop: UTG raise here is quite strong. This puts a lot of pairs in your range, as well as high broadways

flop: you bet when checked to, again broad because of c-bets.

turn: you check behind villain when the queen comes. It's a drawy board for straights, so you probably don't have two pair (KJ,KQ) or a big hand (33,JJ,etc)

river: here when checked to you decide to bet. This really feels like you're trying to get value from a 2nd pair.

best guess: AK

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Hand 5: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ape [censored] on flop
overall line: raise pf, call r/r preflop, raise flop, call 3bet on flop - very strong

Well, you're will to call a reraise preflop, and get it all in on the flop.

In a reraised pot we're not really ever folding top pair. Also, because villain 3bets flop AND reraised preflop, we can't go very far with QQ-KK.

I'd say it's pretty safe to say we have either AK, AA, or JJ here, with a slim chance of having 77.

Best Guess: AK

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Hand 6: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
overall line: limp preflop, raise flop, bet turn, bet river
strong because we had options to check behind

preflop: a limp here on CO is pretty weak. you're probably raising most pairs, and you'd never limp in with Ax or Kx here. You very likely have something like 76,87,98,JT, and some one-gappers

flop: 6 to the flop here and you raise a bet. I think most draws here just call rather than raise because they can be pushed off a hand with a ton behind. Looks like you could have T8 or 86 here. Also possible is a made straight like 97. JT wouldn't raise here, it would just call or even fold I think.

turn: you have the option to check behind, and again bet. Feels like you have T8 here

river: villain checks, you shove.

Best Guess: T8s or 97

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Hand 7: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
overall line: raise pf, bet flop, call turn, call river
feels like a top pair type hand

preflop: button raise means nothin
flop: heads up, this is gonna be bet a lot
turn: villain c/c'ed your flop bet, then led into you, and you feel strong enough to call here. It's also worth nothing that you didn't raise, so you're not afraid of this drawy board (22,88,55,66 are now ruled out)
river: villain bets again, and you just call with no raise. I think a hand like A8 or 98 here make the most sense.

Best guess: A8

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Hand 8: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
overall line: raise preflop, check flop, c/c turn, check river
very weak

pf: utg raise is strong. again, lots of pairs in this range.

flop: no c-bet from hero, which is strange. I'm assuming villain here is a station, or hero wants some pot control and wants to check/call with something like T9.

turn: hero checks again, villain takes a stab, hero calls
river: hero still doesn't love his hand, villain checks behind.

Best guess: T9

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Hand 9: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
overall line: raise utg, bet flop, b/3b turn
-strong-

pf: utg raise here is strong - lots of pairs and high broadways, along with small pairs

flop: standard bet
turn: getting raise on the turn here is a little scary for hands like KK-AA, and even AQ.

This looks like 55,66,JJ,QQ to me. None are really more likely than another, so it's hard for me to give a best guess here.

Best guess: set. I'll say JJ for the hell of it

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Hand 10: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
overall line: raise pf, bet flop, bet, call 3b-ai on turn
pretty strong

preflop: CO raise is wide
flop: when checked to hero bets. it's an ugly board though, so who knows

turn: this should narrow the range. the board now has a 1-card draw to a straight, and BB raises all in. anyone with 0-level reading can see the straight is possible. Hero HAS to have an 8 here to continue. Villain could easily hold 2 pair.

Best Guess: 98 or 87

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Hand 11: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
overall line: cold call pf, donk flop, b3b river
super-strong

preflop: we're calling an UTG raise in the CO, so we're pretty strong here. lots of pairs, maybe a few good suited connectors, maybe AJs-AKs. JJ-AA unlikely because we'd reraise. Some people cold call AK to an UTG raise, others re-raise, not sure how AJ likes it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'll assume he reraises though and take this out of his range.

Flop: hero donks into this. A Q isn't too likely given his preflop calling range. I'd say 66 and 33 look pretty likely here.

Turn: villain c/r's villain, hero shoves it in without thinking.

33,66 most likely here - AK would be in an ugly spot if we cold called preflop, but we'd probably have to call here. KQ is a possibility, but less likely to call preflop unless it's suited.

Best guess: 66 or 33

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Hand 12: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
overall line: raise pf, bet flop, check turn, call river
seems like a one-pair type hand

pf: co raise, wide range
flop: c-bet when checked to , wide
turn: 3rd flush card comes, and we don't bet, so we probably didn't make the flush here. It seems like if we had a ten we'd bet here.
river: King comes, and villain bets small. We just call.

Best guess: c-bet got called down, we luckboxed with a King on the river. We didn't raise though, so probably not KT. I'd guess KJ,KQ,AK

How'd I do AJ?

Antinome 10-31-2007 04:55 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
grunching

1. turn range, hero.. set, AQ, maybe AhKh, A9.
villain... AJ,AQ,A9,A7,JcTc,KcJc, AhTh, 79, Q9, 77, 99 maybe Th8h, 9hTh.

Narrowing it down to an exact guess, hero, AhQh, villain, A9.

2. with a one liner to a straight, I find it difficult to believe hero is doing this without a set at worst. 33-55,6d8d,77. until river I'd believe 6d7d, 66. villain probably has busted flush draw with an Ace, maybe two pair. Exact guess: hero-55, villain, As2s.

3. Hero has an Ace, probably AT+, villain has a medium-good Q or a flush. Exact guess, Hero AJ, villain, QT

4. Hero with AQ or AhJh, mayyybe AT, villain with KT- or JT-J8. Exact guess, hero-AQ, villain JT.

5. This just screams Hero with JJ, villain with AK. some other hands are possible, but this one is the most likely. like, hero could have AJ or KdQd, but I don't think our hero plays that way.

6. hero with sooted 97 or T8.(those are raising hands, AJ) Villain with AT.

7. I think this has to be an overpair, 99-JJ. Villain with T8-A8, 67, 99, he could have some sets too.

8. hero, 66-99, villain can have any two cards, probably not a jack, maybe a T.

9. hero with 55,66,JJ+, villain with AQ,KQ,QJ,55,66

10.Hero has 8T here a lot, occasionally a set depending on villain. villain has two pair, a set or any 8.

11. Hero with 33,66,AK,KQ,QQ+. villain range is the same plus maybe AQ and maybe some KsXs.

12.Hero with a good T or better one pair hand, villain with a wide range, including flushes and two pair, and worse one pair hands. Hero calls for pot odds and loses to a flush.

doppelganger 10-31-2007 04:58 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Cool idea AJ. I suck at this and need to get better.

Hand 1
PF: 20/16 in a button steal situation, this could be almost any reasonable hand, from suited connectors 67 above to any pair, to any broadway. Unknown smooth calls so we really don't know anything much about his range yet.
Flop: Unknown BB c/c's hero's standard cbet on a fairly scary but drawy board. This probably indicates a strong draw or good A or Q for villain, doesn't really tell us anything about hero's hand except PF wasn't a misclick.
Turn: Hero fires a 2nd barrel for more than 3/4 pot and gets c/r by villain. The first bet is pretty standard for a strong hand trying to protect against a now very drawy board. Villain could be raising w/ a variety of combo draws or 2 pair hands. Hero's overpush indicates something very strong, either AQ at the worst or a strong combo draw or set.
Villain: AKhh, TJhh or cc, 77, 99, AQ, A7, A9
Hero: AA, QQ, 77, 99, AKhh, AQ, A9, A7

Hand 2
PF:Hero flats PFR on the button. Probably not a dominated hand like AT/AJ, more likely a SC or middle PP playing for set value.
Flop:Hero bets, possibly FD, SD, or set of 5's/4's.
Turn:SB's most likely holding is an A here and Hero continues to bet. I'd say his most likely holding at this point is a set, since w/ the draws he would likely take the free card.
River:SB wakes up w/ the 2, which completes the wheel draw, and hero pushes. Hard to say if Hero is putting him on 2pair and value betting his set or if he does indeed have the nut straight w/ 68.

Hand 3
PF/Flop:Hero raises limper and makes standard cbet. Could be any reasonable hand from SC's, PP's, to broadways.
Turn:Checked through, indicating hero does not have a made hand or is slowplaying a flush.
River:Hero calls a large bet instead of raising. Most likely holding is a strong ace like AK/AJ with concerns that villain holds the flush.

Hand 4:
PF:UTG raise indicates narrow range, AT+, KQs and PP's.
Flop:Standard cbet
Turn:Checks through on a very drawy board. Hero likely has missed w/ a PP or has AK/AQ/AJ.
River:Hero value bets. I'd say he's beating a pair of jacks here, so probably AK/AQ. KQ would probably have bet the turn.

Hand 5
PF:Hero raise/calls here, probably something playing for set value but not strong enough to push.
Flop:Most likely 77 or JJ I would think.

Hand 6
PF:Smooth call multiway probably indicates a SC here, as hero would raise PP's and strong broadways.
Flop:Hero makes a PSR on a drawy flop. Probably hit the straight w/ 79 and is trying to protect against draws, although 2pair w/ T8 or a strong SF draw is possible w/ 9Jdd.
Turn:Hero continues to play strongly when the board pairs. This is probably either a full house or made straight.
River:Hero pushes for value, probably a boat imo.

Hand 7
PF/Flop:Hero makes an open raise from button and a standard cbet. Could be any reasonable hand.
Turn:6s brings lots of draws and villain bets. Hero's flat call indicates a hand but nothing montsrous worth protecting. Probably an overpair or TPTK.
River:River card changes nothing, so if hero was ahead he still is, and just calls. I'd say villain has a busted draw here pretty often, and rarely a made straight afraid of the paired board.

Hand 8
PF:UTG raise indicates tight range as in hand 4.
Flop: Hero misclicks and forgets to cbet on a HU drawy board. I would find this suspicious and put hero on a monster here, like JJ.
Turn:Hero c/c. I'd say most likely holdings are AKss or KQss.
River:Hero misses and hand is checked through. Villain probably wins w/ AJ here.

Hand 9 Hero takes a very strong line. I'd say this is JJ or QQ always.

Hand 10
PF/Flop:Standard CO steal situation.
Turn:Hero's strong line here can only be the nut straight.

Hand 11
PF:Hero flat calls an EP raise, so range is probably similar to hand 2, either a mid PP or SC, probably not an easily dominated broadway type hand.
Flop:Hero could have AQ, but I'd say lower sets or a FD are much more likely.
Turn:Hero is on 66 or 33

Hand 12:
PF/Flop:Standard CO steal situation, wide range.
Turn:Hero checks through here. Could be air, AT/KT, or a PP 66/88/99. Not something big worth protecting against draws.
River: Hero just calls the blocker. Probably something like AT or a small PP.

bozzer 10-31-2007 05:06 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
hand 1

{77,QQ,AA,AQ,A7,A9,AhKh-Ah?h} i don't see you having 99, Q9 or 79 that often, i think you might check behind flop with those. you might stick it in with AK no hearts, and i don't think there are that many drawing hands you get stick it in with here.

hand 2

i spent a bit of time working through this hand in the shower. i think {34,35,A3,6d8d,75,77} is about 90% of villains river bet-calling range, so i have hero on {6d8d,3d4d,3s5s}. aj could show up with sets and 2p here too but i think that's a mistake readless. i thought weak 1p hands might have been likely for villain, but i just can't see him coming out with a river blocker/bluff that often after you bet two streets. if you think villain is blocking with pairs and will fold/call a raise that opens up your range to busted draw bluffs and &gt; decent 1p hands respectively.

Chicago Twister 10-31-2007 05:14 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
So far only looked at Hand 1. I think the most important thing for most people to realize is that in Hand 1 you range is extremely wide until the turn. By then it is very narrow. You have a value hand that you want to felt, so TPGK+. The interesting conclusion isn't so much exactly what your range is, but what villan's range needs to be in order to continue.

voyamatarte 10-31-2007 05:14 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Thanks for the big quiz. I’ve put a lot of effort into this because you put the effort of posting it here for us. I am a micro limit donk, but I saw the amazing potential of NL playing against fish, and I realized that learning NL would be more profitable than grinding out 3bb/100 at .10/.20. My first NL post, here goes:

HAND 1

77, AA, QQ, A7,A9, K7, K9
I see you going AI on the turn here with two pair or a flopped set.

HAND 2

On the flop and turn I put you on CC with a suited Ace, but by the river I see that you must have had a set by the turn, because you wouldn’t go AI against a river donk on a scare card unless you were better than top pair.

HAND 3

AK, AJ. Hero raises to make it heads up, bets an over(or two). Gets calls on flop, checks for free card on turn, hits TP and it is good over opponents Q.

HAND 4

99, TT, AQ -&gt;(inducing a J or 3 to bet on river)

HAND 5

AA, AJ, A7, Adxd

HAND 6

88,66,A8

HAND 7

A8, K8 – Really don’t know what you are calling down with after the turn donk

HAND 8

I normally only raise big pairs PF UTG, and it doesn’t look like you have one of those here, so I am a little lost. I also don’t play 6-max (yet), so perhaps this is why.
AQ,KQ

HAND 9

QQ,JJ, and if not then I don’t understand poker.
HAND 10

A8,K8, 99,77,66

HAND 11

66,33. I thought maybe 4s5s, but the stacks aren’t deep enough to have any FE with a big combo draw here.

HAND 12

AT,A3,A5, K2,K4,K6,
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ajmargarine 10-31-2007 05:18 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
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The interesting conclusion isn't so much exactly what your range is, but what villan's range needs to be in order to continue.

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Well, we have to put villain on a range, which is what I did on the table. After I put him on a range, I chose to continue with the aggression. So, in a way you have to put him on a range to get my range.


AND,

I just want to say to everyone so far, there are really some awesome responses in this thread. Seriously.

Chomp 10-31-2007 05:44 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Grunch (although there look to be some great posts).

Hero:

1. One of the sets
2. A5
3. As baby flushes surely bet turn, this must be AQ or AK, maybe with the Ah
4. AK/KT/KJ
5. JJJ
6. 78(dd?) or maybe a bluff
7. 99/TT/A8
8. 66-99
9. QJhh
10. T8
11. AK/set
12. 44

Villains:

They all have TP2K type trash with maybe a few coolers in there for hero - I think in most instances hero hits better than TP on the type of painty boards that entice average unknowns' into overvaluing weak hands. Hence hero's aggression when he senses value.

matrix 10-31-2007 05:50 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
*grunch*
[ QUOTE ]

Hand 1

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opens from button and c/bets flop. = ATC

turn is interesting - villain prolly has a TPTK type hand which you no doubt are WA of - or has made 2 pair with 79s and was floating or 2pairs his Axs or has TP+nfd.

AJ's range is AQ flopped top2, Axs nfd+pair/2pair or a set. Less likely but possibles include JTcc JThh or some combo draw - we can rule out 1pair hands and 79s unless Hero thinks villain will stack off with TP. Id guess top2/set.

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Hand 2

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AJ flats it IP after CO open. I'd start weighting the range to sc's Axs maybe AJ or a pp. Something speculative with good implieds.

Raiser checks the flop AJ bets into 3 players so has a little something here. Turn, villain check calls a PSB - he's a donk chasing a draw or has AQ/AK. AJ probably has 68 for the nut straight here, diamond flush draw with a sc maybe with a gs as well or flopped Aces up with his Axs. AK is a possibility but not a likely one.

River no change in villain he has TPGK 2pair set in that order of likelyhood and was waiting for the flush to miss. AJ drags the pot with a straight.

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Hand 3

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AJ raises from LP over a limper, and CB's a wet flop for ~pot = almost ATC.

Turn brings teh frush and it's checked through. No [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s for AJ. Looks like AQ KQ QJ, maybe QTs a TP type hand. Could be 78s.

Villain almost pots the river after AJ shows "weakness" villain has teh frush or a TP hand or is bluffing - I think AJ lost this pot with his KQ to a flush or goofy 2pair.

3 hands is good for me right now - will look at more later.

bozzer 10-31-2007 07:29 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
hand 3

villain range something like {A3,A8,87,33,88,77,QT-QA, suited heart connectors} and anything weak he decides to turn into a bluff. i think hero has {AQ,A3,A8,AK} pretty much here. sets too if aj likes to check 3flush turns behind with them (i generally don't)

hand 4

{AK,AhJh,KT sometimes, any random hearts that might be in yr pf range, but there aren't many}

hand 5

{77,AA,JJ,AJ,KdQd}

hand 6

{79,8T,86,8xd,other diamond combo draw stuff,maybe 66}

hand 7

{77,A8,K8,98,T8,overpairs}

hand 8

{AT,KT, JT (if in pf range), maybe 77-99}

hand 9

{AA,QQ,KK,JJ,66,55,AhKh?,AhQh} quite a tough spot with AQ and AhJh.

BrunoThePug 10-31-2007 07:32 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Hand 1: AQ+

Hand 2: 44,55,77

Hand 3: AJ, AK, KQ

Hand 4: 66-TT

Hand 5: AK, AQ, AJ, KQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hand 6: combo-draw, two-pair

Hand 7: 99,TT,JJ

Hand 8: 33,44,Axs,KQs

Hand 9: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hand 10: 55-99

Hand 11: KQo, 33, 66, JT[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hand 12: AK, KQ

Some explanations:

On the hands where Hero raises pre-flop, c-bets 2/3 or less and checks the turn I assume hero has overcards and missed the flop and was making standard c-bet.

On the hands where hero raises pre-flop, c-bets 2/3 or more and then bets 2/3 or more on the turn I assume hero has a big hand like a large overpair or set.

Because my ability to find value is certain situations isn't great, and the fact that I probably play kinda weak-tight, I might be over estimate hero's strength based on his turn and river bet sizing/action.

voyamatarte 10-31-2007 08:52 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Bump

eddieP 10-31-2007 09:14 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1) A7s, AQ, 77
2) 34s, 36s, 33, A4s
3) AQ, AK, AJ, AT, A9s
4) SC, 33, KQs
5) 77,JJ, AJs, AK,AQ
6) 79s, T8s
7) A8s, 22, 55, 88, 34s, 79s
8) 66-99, T9s
9) QQ, 55, 66, AQs
10) 88, A8s
11) 66,33, QKs
12) AT, KT, AK, KQ, KJ

Did these in class [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ICMoney 10-31-2007 09:28 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Thanks man. Will get on these after my session.

bored 10-31-2007 10:11 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Grunch:

1) AA/QQ/77

2) 55/44/A5s/A4s

3) AK/AJ

4) AhJh/AK/AQ

5) JJ/77/AJ/KdQd

6) T8s/86s/87/A8s

7) TT/99

8) 99/88/

9) 66/55/JJ/AJ/QQ/KK/AA (lol narrow range)

10) 99/77/55/98s

11) KQ/KsJs/KsTs/

12) AK/KQ/AT

Either I'm weak tight or I give AJ a lot of credit, b/c I usually put him on the nuts or a set LOL.

Jailblazers 10-31-2007 10:12 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1. A7, A9, 77, QQ, AA, AQ, Axhh
2. 44,55,68dd
3. AJ, AK, 99-JJ
4. AA, AK
5. 77, JJ, KTdd, KQd, QTd, T9d, AJ, A7
6. 88, TT, 66, T8, 86, Kxdd, 9Jdd
7. TPMK, 99, TT
8. 66-99, AK, AQ
9. 55, 66, JJ, QQ
10. 89+, 88
11. KQ, 33, 66, ATs-AJs
12. 66-99, T8+

n4rf 10-31-2007 10:37 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
I'll give this a try :\

1. AK/QQ
2. 55/44
3. QJ/AJ
4. AJ/AQ
5. JJ/77
6. 79/66
7. A8/K8
8. 99/88/77 (any mid pock pair)
9. AA/KK
10. 88
11. AK/KQ
12. A10/KQ

My hand reading sucks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Hail Eris 10-31-2007 11:04 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
[ QUOTE ]

Hand 1

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $52.45
Hero (BTN): $64.50
SB: $124.85
BB: $59.95
UTG: $36
MP: $106.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.50 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $23.95 and is All-In

River: ($120.15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

[/ QUOTE ]

All sets and AQ.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $56.25
BB: $29.75
UTG: $52.40
CO: $49.85
Hero (BTN): $52.05

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.50, CO folds

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, SB calls $11

River: ($36.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.80 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $19.80

Results: $106.35 Pot ($3 Rake)

[/ QUOTE ]

A3s, 44, 55

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 3

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $50.75
BB: $55.95
UTG: $58.75
MP: $48.70
Hero (CO): $72.20
BTN: $50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, MP calls $4.50

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50

[/ QUOTE ]

Aces up, AK maybe. Worse against the right villain, but not in a vacuum.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 4

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $52.90
BB: $38.85
Hero (UTG): $50
CO: $135.35
BTN: $75.75

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8

[/ QUOTE ]

AK, AQ, KTs maybe, 44, backdoor flush.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 5

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $50
UTG: $59.95
MP: $74.25
Hero (CO): $165.95
BTN: $60.45
SB: $81.80

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $5.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $76.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $47.80

[/ QUOTE ]

AJ, JJ, 77, KQdd in a vacuum. QTdd, 78dd and other weak starting hands that flop a combo draw are certainly possible, though, since it's a small 3bet in a suspect spot, and you're deep and have position.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 6

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $60.30
UTG: $283.80
MP: $7.15
Hero (CO): $50.70
BTN: $51.10
SB: $49.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, UTG calls $13.50

River: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $29.20 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $29.20

[/ QUOTE ]

T8s, 86s, ATs, 66, 97s, J9dd, 57dd in a vacuum.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 7

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $52.30
SB: $80
BB: $51.45
UTG: $53.80
MP: $51.25
CO: $35

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7

River: ($26.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

[/ QUOTE ]

77-TT, various 8s.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 8

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $77.90
CO: $79.25
BTN: $55.65
SB: $55.80
BB: $46.40
Hero (UTG): $53.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

River: ($12.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't really like this hand with anything, but I guess 34s makes sense. Hard to see you raising that UTG. Maybe something like 66-99, but this really feels like one of those hands that needs reads on the villain to be justified.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 9

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $51.05
Hero (UTG): $64.90
MP: $59.35
CO: $75.50
BTN: $57
SB: $64.65

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.75</font>, CO calls $4.75

Turn: ($14.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $54.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.15 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $3.40

[/ QUOTE ]

All sets, QJ, strong combo draws like 8h7h, AhJh, KhQh, etc.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 10

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $78.05
UTG: $38.65
Hero (CO): $74.70
BTN: $30.15
SB: $60.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $72.05 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $57.70 and is All-In

[/ QUOTE ]

Any 8 that you decided to PFR with.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 11

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $52.55
BTN: $78.75
SB: $51.25
BB: $19.85
UTG: $53.60
MP: $58.70

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($12.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $38</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46.55 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $8.55

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KQ, 66, 33.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 12

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $52
MP: $47.65
Hero (CO): $97.05
BTN: $49.25
SB: $249.25
BB: $68.15

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

[/ QUOTE ]

Unpaired Kings that caught the river, Tens.

bored 10-31-2007 11:34 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1) AA/QQ/77
PF: BTN raise, could be anything.
Flop: Near psb on a drawy board, looks like a cbet
Turn: Hero shoves over a c/r. The turn CR signifies extreme strength and Hero says that he doesn't care. This is an extremely strong made hand, looks like flopped set to me.

2)55/44/A5s/A4s
PF: Hero cold calls IP. Probably has something with good implied odds like a small to mid PP/SC/Axs.
Flop: Hero bets when checked to. Probably has a FD/set/or A5/A4s, or is just taking a stab. Hero doesn't seem too afraid of the A on the flop, especially vs a pfr that checked.
Turn: Hero bets again, looking for value. Unlikely to have a FD, I think he has a set or A5s/A4s
River: Definately doesn't have a FD now and is willing to get AI. No 3 makes sense for Hero or Villain. For some reason I want to put villain on a badly played KK here.

3)AK/AJ
PF: Hero raises in CO, wide range.
Flop: Cbets and gets called. Still could have anything from an underpair to overcards to top set.
Turn: Check IP when the flush hits. Probably a marginal hand like JJ or missed overcards. Hero is pretty much done with the hand...
River: ...unless he spikes an A on the river. MP bets almost pot, Hero calls with TPTK or TPGK. I don't put Hero on AQ b/c I think he would b/f the turn or bet/check behind the river. Likewise I don't think Hero would call the river with less than an A.

4) AhJh/AK/AQ
PF: UTG raise, narrow range. pp, AJ+, something else once in a while.
Flop: Cbet a semi-coordinated flop and gets called.
Turn: Hero checks behind with 3 broadway on the board. He has nothing/marginal hand/or some heart draw he wants to see the river with.
River: Hero bets 3/4psb on the river. Bluff or value? I think this is a vbet with TPTK or MPTK or a backdoor flush that got there. Any really strong hand would have bet the turn (like KQ) and any marginal hand would check behind (like JT). I don't see any set or PP playing like this and Hero's range is (should be?) narrow from UTG.

5) JJ/77/AJ/KdQd
PF: Hero raises pf and calls a tiny 3bet. Hero has a PP or good but not good enough to 4bet/call shove hand and the raise is small so he will call with implied odds IP.
Flop: SB bets as expected, Hero likes this flop and raises/calls a shove. His plan w/ JJ/77 worked and/or he is getting coolered by AA. AJs makes sense as well, as I think Hero calls a wide range IP vs this small 3bet preflop. KdQd for the GS+NFD is also a possibility.

6) T8s/86s/87/A8s
PF: Hero takes a flop multiway. Probably a connector/one-gap/two-gap/suited Ax/lower suited broadway (like JTs). Definately not a premium hand.
Flop: Hero raises pot. Looks like a made straight/pair+FD or 2p. Many of his SC/Suited 1gaps/Suited 2gaps hit this flop. It could be 66, but I think Hero raises that pf most of the time.
Turn: Hero bets again. I put Hero on an 8 here, but he only bet 2/3psb so it looks like he wants a call. The board is very drawy and his 8 could be beaten, unless he has a boat or trips w/ TK. UTG will likely call a bet here with a draw or any 8, so Hero fires.
River: Hero shoves the river; the flush doesn't concern him. Either that was his gin card and he just boated up or his 2p turned into a boat on the turn. The board is too scary here and I think 97 checks behind here given the opportunity on a paired board with the flush draw coming in.
After thinking about it; I don't think Hero has 87s here unless it is 8d7d.

7) TT/99
PF BTN raise means a wide range.
Flop: Hero bets near psb on a 2 flush semi-connected board. This hits Villain harder than it does Hero in general, but Hero seems to have a hand of some sort, probably an overpair.
Turn: Hero calls a smallish donkbet from Villain. I don't think Hero has AA-QQ, but I still think it is an overpair, probably JJ/TT/99 that wants to get to showdown.
River: SB donks weakly again and Hero calls. This 6 doesn't really help the Villain and villain bet his hand weak on the turn and river. This is probably an 8 or a busted FD. There is some chance that Villain was playing 97s or 43s (or maybe even 74s :P) and hit his straight or that he was slowplaying the flop with a set, but Hero thinks he is ahead enough to make this call.

8) 99/88/

PF: Hero raises UTG; probably pp, AJ+, something else sometimes
Flop: Coordinated board, hero doesn't have a set or another powerful hand or else he'd bet for protection. He likely has a small/medium pp here. If I were Villain I'd pot it.
Turn: Hero c/calls a turn blank. I still think Hero has a pp; probably a middle PP like 99/88 that has some showdown value vs a likely draw. AJ is a possibility too, but I think Hero would usually lead with TP on this board or bet the turn.
River: Hero checks intending to call after the river brings no help to the draws, but gets a break as Villain checks as well. I think Villain had either an OESD or FD and Hero's 99 is good.

9) 66/55/JJ/AJ/QQ/KK/AA (lol narrow range)
PF: UTG raise is usually tight; pp/AJ+ usually, sometimes something else
Flop: Hero makes a psb on a drawy board, looks like he is betting for value/protection. I put him on a set/overpair/or TPTK
Turn: Hero bets strongly again for protection/value. I put him on the same range of hands as the flop, and this is confirmed after he gets all the money in. Set/overpair and sometimes AJ (most likely AhJh if it is AJ). There is a possibility that this is QhJh, but I wouldn't know this unless I had a note on Hero saying "raises QJs UTG".

10) 99/77/88/98s
PF: MP raise, probably a PP/broadway, maybe a high SC.
Flop: 976r doesn' hit very many raising hands. Hero cbets but fails to take it down.
Turn: Hero bets again and calls a shove on a 4 straight board. He either has a set and doesn't believe his opponent has an 8 or he has an 8 (probably 98s or 88) for the straight.

11) KQ/KsJs/KsTs/
PF: Hero calls an UTG raise. Probably a mid/small pp or hand with implied odds like Axs/SC/suited 1gap/suited 2gap
Flop: Hero bets after the pfr checks. Hero could be taking a stab with a FD (or air), he could have a Q or a set.
Turn: Hero bets again and gets the money in after being CRed. I think Hero has KQ or a K+FD or a set. When I was going through this hand originally I didn't think Hero had a set, but now I think that he probably has 66/33. I also think that this is a cooler and that Villain has QQ.

12) AK/KQ/AT
PF: CO raise doesn't mean much
Flop: Hero cbets, doesn't mean much either.
Turn: Hero checks after the flush hits; he probably has overcards or a top pair hand that doesn't want to bloat the pot.
River: Villain makes a tiny bet and Hero spiked a K or had a T and is calling figuring he is good enough of the time to call this small bet.

*whew* And now I'm too tired to play poker...

ajmargarine 10-31-2007 11:48 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
There are alot of good responses in this thread guys. Especially the ones who took the hands one street at a time and "thought out loud" about things. Very impressive.

I will probably just leave this thread alone now until tomorrow afternoon sometime and then give my actual hands and some comments, allowing other folks to still weigh in with answers.

DGDolly 10-31-2007 11:49 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1-) AA,QQ,77,AQ,99
2-) 55,44
3-) AQ with ace of hearts, AK
4-) AK
5-) 77 JJ, AA MAYBE but it would be a tricky way to play it.
6-) T8, 86, I don't think you would shove that river with a strait, that check on the river when the diamond comes looks very suspicious to me.
7-) A8, K8, Q8, J8, 810, 98,1010,99
8-) AK,KQ,99-33, maybe something like 810 910 but UTG that would't be a standard raise for Hero's stats.
9-)QQ,JJ,55,66,AA,KK I just hope if you had KK or AA he didn't show you QJ :/
10-)810, I don't think you can call this push with anything else
11-)66,33, maybe KQ
12-)Kx,10x,7x, or a small PP

whyzze 11-01-2007 12:07 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
AQ/AKh/flopped sets/99
44/55/77/34s
QJ/AK/AJ/A10/Q10
AK/44/Axh/bluff
I need CO's stats to properly read this hand. AK/AQ/AJ/JJ/77
T8s/68s/79s/78d
T8/j8/q8/k8/A8/77/44/99
77/88/99
AQ/55/66/jj/qq/kk/aa
88/T8/99/77/55/66
66/33/KQ
88/99/9T/JT

z28dreams 11-01-2007 12:15 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Good post so far AJ.

I feel like I'm not too bad hand reading vs. decent players, though far from perfect.

Can we try something like this against your typical 30/10 passive 25nl idiot? I feel like I give way too much credit to a lot of people.

DemonOfTheFall 11-01-2007 12:20 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Hand 1: Mostly AQ/AK, sometimes 77/AA/QQ/99, very rarely 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Even more rarely J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hand 2: Either 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 55/44. Rarely A5s/A4s/A3s.

Hand 3: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Qx mostly. Sometimes A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Kx/ AxK[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Rarely A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Ax

Hand 4: 44 is the only hand that should play this way? Can't see you not betting turn with AK/KQ/KJ. A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] also could be played this way. A pocket pair turned into a bluff is less likely, but also possible.

Hand 5: Mostly JJ, then 77, sometimes AA/AxK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], sometimes 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] /7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hand 6: Mostly 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],66. Sometimes 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hand 7: 99-JJ a lot, occasionally 77/A8.

Hand 8: Mostly KJ/AJ/AT. This hand is kind of weird though - I can't really be confident about any of those options. I think you'd bet any spade/combo draw on the flop and the board is drawy enough that you wouldn't slow play monsters.

Hand 9: JJ-AA, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hand 10: 98s/88/T8s

Hand 11: 66/33/K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hand 12:KQ/KJ w/o K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].AT w/o A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Rarely JJ-QQ.

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 12:40 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
im bored, why not. grunching

hand 1
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2 pair A9 and +, any set, sometimes a draw like KcJc or JcTc


hand 2
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44-55 seems right. i doubt youd 2 barrel 33...77 may be possible...


hand 3
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seems like a standard line for AK...though you could be pot controlling a Q like KQs and felt like he would bluff an A river...


hand 4
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i really feel like you have AK here. bet flop for value, pot control semi bad turn, value bet river...44 is possible, though i dont know if youd c-bet that flop


hand 5
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AK is possible but would you stack off deep? 77 is a real possibility...even JJ


hand 6
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this is a pretty tough one...i dont know what youd limp behind 2 limpers though...with UTG being so deep i dont think youd limp behind a pocket pair...something like T8s, 86s, 7d5d or 9d7d sticks out to me


hand 7
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i dont think youd call down with A high, or even a hand like K8s...i feel like youd want to pot control 99 or something, 77 perhaps...not real sure...


hand 8
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seems like a middle pair like 88, since a JTx flop is really crappy to c-bet, and i doubt youd call with AK...


hand 9
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if put you on something like 55-66, JJ+...20/16 probably isnt raising QJ UTG so seems like only PP


hand 10
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id have to say a mid pp. 55-99. maybe KK-AA, but id prob fold to that shove...


hand 11
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seems like only 3 reasonable hands...33,66,KQ...


hand 12
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this is about the same as hand 3...probably AK is msot likely...KQ? maybe some tens like AT

Lego05 11-01-2007 12:50 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Grunched


Hand 1: AA,QQ,77,99,AQ, maybe A9 or A7

Hand 2: 55,44,54s, maybe 75s

Hand 3: AK,A8,A7,A3, maybe AJ or AT

Hand 4: 44,Ax of hearts, suited connector in hearts, perhaps AQ

Hand 5: AA,JJ,77, maybe AJ if he's been 3betting a bunch, maybe AK, possibly KdQd or QdTd also if he's been 3betting you a lot...these ahnds are a bit less likely though

Hand 6: 97s,T8s,86s,Jd9d,

Hand 7: 77,99,TT,JJ, maybe QQ+, A8 maybe

Hand 8: AT,99...I dunno...bit lost on this one.

Hand 9: AA,KK,QQ,JJ,66,55,maybe QJ,maybe AQ, 8h7h maybe if I thought you'd raise that UTG

Hand 10: T8s, random 8's, 99,77

Hand 11: 66,33,KQ,AsQs, maybe QsJs, maybe AK specifically of spades

Hand 12: AK,KQ,KJ,99,88,some T, This one also has me kinda confused

ama0330 11-01-2007 06:01 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
I'm bored at work, so I'll give this one a shot.

Hand 1

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $52.45
Hero (BTN): $64.50
SB: $124.85
BB: $59.95
UTG: $36
MP: $106.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.50 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $23.95 and is All-In

River: ($120.15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)


<font color="blue">Your range preflop is atc, and on the flop also, your range is very wide. But once you bet the turn, if I am villain I c/f most hands like TT to you because I think double barreling this board is pretty ballsy/dumb, as so many hands will float/continue on this wet turn. So when you bet and shove I'll be putting you on at least TPTK, but more like AQ or a strong draw like KJcc. Once you shove your range is: AA/QQ/77/99, AQ/A7, KJcc and very very rarely a pair+fd like 76cc. I'd need 2pr+ to call and it wouldnt be a fistpump.</font>

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Hand 2

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $56.25
BB: $29.75
UTG: $52.40
CO: $49.85
Hero (BTN): $52.05

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.50, CO folds

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, SB calls $11

River: ($36.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.80 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $19.80

Results: $106.35 Pot ($3 Rake)

<font color="blue">You have 44,55,54,68 or a tricky AA. Your turn bet is not a bluff.</font>

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Hand 3

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $50.75
BB: $55.95
UTG: $58.75
MP: $48.70
Hero (CO): $72.20
BTN: $50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, MP calls $4.50

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50

<font color="blue">The size of the river bet makes this pretty interesting because villain's reads become important, but your range here is wide. You dont have a flush or you would have raised, and your range is wide seeing as you raised from the CO. So imo you can have any set, any 2pr, Qx, maybe Ax, or a super thin bluffcatch with a hand like TT. </font>

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Hand 4

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $52.90
BB: $38.85
Hero (UTG): $50
CO: $135.35
BTN: $75.75

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8

<font color="blue">This is pretty tough actually. Its really hard for me to put you on a good hand with that turn check, I feel like you would have bet for protection there, so I think you are bluffing the river. Almost all hands which would be betting for value on the flop have a mandatory turn bet - KK, JJ, 33, KQ, KJ, AA, QQ - they all have to bet the turn. So wtf do you have? I think its like 44, random hearts (did you raise 76s utg?), a SUPER thin bet with TT (why not just check behind) or else you just bet TT as a bluff to get him off Kx/Qx. FWIW I think you lost this sd because I would have looked you up too... </font>

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Hand 5

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $50
UTG: $59.95
MP: $74.25
Hero (CO): $165.95
BTN: $60.45
SB: $81.80

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $5.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $76.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $47.80

<font color="blue">Tricky AA, or AK/JJ. I hope you dont have 77, and KQdd is meh. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]</font>

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Hand 6

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $60.30
UTG: $283.80
MP: $7.15
Hero (CO): $50.70
BTN: $51.10
SB: $49.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, UTG calls $13.50

River: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $29.20 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $29.20

<font color="blue">Did you just limp the cutoff?? Jesus man get a grip!! You have T8 all day.</font>

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Hand 7

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $52.30
SB: $80
BB: $51.45
UTG: $53.80
MP: $51.25
CO: $35

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7

River: ($26.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

<font color="blue">His line is weak but I think that a call with something like 8x is a little thin, I think your most likely hand is some kind of overpair like JJ/TT but Im not sure about this one.</font>

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Hand 8

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $77.90
CO: $79.25
BTN: $55.65
SB: $55.80
BB: $46.40
Hero (UTG): $53.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

River: ($12.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

<font color="blue">77-99</font>

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Hand 9

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $51.05
Hero (UTG): $64.90
MP: $59.35
CO: $75.50
BTN: $57
SB: $64.65

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.75</font>, CO calls $4.75

Turn: ($14.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $54.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.15 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $3.40

<font color="blue">JJ/KK/AA/QQ, 56 </font>

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Hand 10

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $78.05
UTG: $38.65
Hero (CO): $74.70
BTN: $30.15
SB: $60.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $72.05 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $57.70 and is All-In

<font color="blue">T8,88,8x, but also sets and 2pr hands if you have a read. Overpairs are unlikely but also read-dependant. </font>

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Hand 11

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $52.55
BTN: $78.75
SB: $51.25
BB: $19.85
UTG: $53.60
MP: $58.70

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($12.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $38</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46.55 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $8.55

<font color="blue">66/33, not QQ, not KK, possibly KQ. </font>

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Hand 12

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $52
MP: $47.65
Hero (CO): $97.05
BTN: $49.25
SB: $249.25
BB: $68.15

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="blue">Tx, JJ, sets, 2prs (tho I think these may raise river). </font>

fees 11-01-2007 07:03 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1. AQ or a flopped set

2 through x. duno TLDR

DaycareInferno 11-01-2007 07:25 AM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
1. AK
2. AK
3. AK
4. AK
5. AK
6. AK
7. AK
8. AK
9. AK
10. AK
11. AK
12. AK

ajmargarine 11-01-2007 03:03 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
<font color="green">RESULTS </font>
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Hand 1

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $52.45
Hero (BTN): $64.50
SB: $124.85
BB: $59.95
UTG: $36
MP: $106.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.50 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $23.95 and is All-In

River: ($120.15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

<font color="green">I'm very strong here against an AI line from villain. I held 77 and beat out AKo. </font>

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Hand 2

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $56.25
BB: $29.75
UTG: $52.40
CO: $49.85
Hero (BTN): $52.05

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.50, CO folds

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, SB calls $11

River: ($36.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $34.80 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $19.80

Results: $106.35 Pot ($3 Rake)

<font color="green">PF is the key. I held 44 here and was valueshoving the river against Aces and Aces up. I don't know how thin it is, but this wasn't a spot where I sweep the pot every time and villain held A3 here and he scooped. </font>

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Hand 3

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $50.75
BB: $55.95
UTG: $58.75
MP: $48.70
Hero (CO): $72.20
BTN: $50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, MP calls $4.50

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50

<font color="green">This was just a CB and give up that spiked an Ace on the river. I had AJ which is really at the bottom of what I'd normally call a PSB with. He had the flush and scooped. </font>

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Hand 4

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $52.90
BB: $38.85
Hero (UTG): $50
CO: $135.35
BTN: $75.75

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8

<font color="green">A couple of you got this right. I back doored a flush with Ah2h and got a bit of value out of K6. </font>

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Hand 5

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $50
UTG: $59.95
MP: $74.25
Hero (CO): $165.95
BTN: $60.45
SB: $81.80

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $5.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $76.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $47.80

<font color="green">We were a little deeper than 100bb's here so I called his 3b in position with 77 and flopped a set vs his AK. </font>

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Hand 6

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $60.30
UTG: $283.80
MP: $7.15
Hero (CO): $50.70
BTN: $51.10
SB: $49.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($3) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, UTG calls $13.50

River: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $29.20 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $29.20

<font color="green">I don't mind playing fit or fold sometimes after 2 limpers and here I did so with 8Ts that saw JT call me all the way down. </font>

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Hand 7

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $52.30
SB: $80
BB: $51.45
UTG: $53.80
MP: $51.25
CO: $35

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7

River: ($26.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

<font color="green">Alot of you were spot on on this one. Weak overpair. But, I had the strongest weak overpair really. I had JJ and lost to a slowplayed QQ. </font>

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Hand 8

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $77.90
CO: $79.25
BTN: $55.65
SB: $55.80
BB: $46.40
Hero (UTG): $53.50

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

River: ($12.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

<font color="green">Some of you saw this for just what it was. A very weak hand looking for showdown. My 99 held on here vs Villain's 88. </font>

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Hand 9

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $51.05
Hero (UTG): $64.90
MP: $59.35
CO: $75.50
BTN: $57
SB: $64.65

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.75</font>, CO calls $4.75

Turn: ($14.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $54.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58.15 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $3.40

<font color="green">I flopped a set, yo. 55 snapped off villain's bluffy overplay of AJ. </font>

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Hand 10

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $78.05
UTG: $38.65
Hero (CO): $74.70
BTN: $30.15
SB: $60.25

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $72.05 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $57.70 and is All-In

<font color="green">You all assumed correctly that I had an 8. Most of you missed the one combo that felts here for sure. I had 8c7c and rivered a club vs. villain's lone 8, haha freerolls. </font>

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Hand 11

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $52.55
BTN: $78.75
SB: $51.25
BB: $19.85
UTG: $53.60
MP: $58.70

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($12.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $38</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46.55 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $8.55

<font color="green">zzzzzzzz, another set. My 66 &gt; KQ. </font>

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Hand 12

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $52
MP: $47.65
Hero (CO): $97.05
BTN: $49.25
SB: $249.25
BB: $68.15

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

<font color="green">CB, give up, spike a King. My KJ scoops vs. villains A5. </font>

C4LL4W4Y 11-01-2007 03:20 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
grunching hands 1, 2, and 8 (i wanted to do 3 but i don't like hand 3 right now, i need a little more time with it)

1: AJ-AK, 77, 99, QQ, AA- you're going for a second street of value on a draw heavy board, so you can probably assume that AJ-AK are good here. I include 99 because this is a pretty good flop to cbet at in a HU pot.

2: 44, 55, AJ/AQ - though in order to include that last two hands, I'd need some kind of read on the CO - is he raising light? Is he apt to continue with a wide range of hands on the flop? These things matter for me to consider whether or not you'd continue with those hands, and bet with anything less than a set/top pair here.

Hand 8: I don't see why you'd make this play with anything other than 77-99. I figure you raise all PPs utg, and I assume you're checking that flop because you believe it's going to be tough for you to continue if you face any resistance on a draw heavy board - would he be calling with a draw? A lone T? Either way, you wouldn't be happy about it.

ok I lied, I'm doing one more.


Hand 5: You have 77 or JJ, maybe AA if you're trying to get deceptive with the SB. You're usually calling $3.50 more with effective stacks greater than $75 for good set odds.

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 03:52 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
got most of them in the vicinity at least

Lostit 11-01-2007 04:56 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
This was a great exercise, thanks AJ. Personally I only went 6 for 12, so I could stand do this a few more (read: LOTS) times.

Could we do this again, with the following change: Only unveil each hand street by street to see how we narrow our range through the exercise. I found myself coming to my conclusions in the end, knowing how all 3 streets were played. In reality we do it street by street, not knowing whats coming, and sometimes throwing out hands prematurely and not reconsidering them later. In this exercise you could also include hands that did not go to showdown, as we would not know how likely you were to fold on each street.

Just my 2 cents, but thank you again for all the time and effort you put into this.

ajmargarine 11-01-2007 05:07 PM

Re: uNL Hand Reading Practice
 
Well, what i guess i could recommend is...Open up one browser window with the OP in it. Open up another tab with your response post in it. Then just scroll the OP so that you can only see it one street at a time, typing up your street by street thoughts in your response in a different tab. I thought the posts in this thread that did the thinking out loud and narrowing of the range street by street were awesome. And those guys probably got the most out of it because that's how you are actually thinking at the tables.

And that's a good idea about including non-showdown hands too. I'll probably do up another one of these eventually.


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