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yabastid 10-07-2007 07:03 PM

AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
Villian is beepbeepImajeep who I think is Thac. We don't have any real history and don't tangle too much. I have been experimenting with sometimes just calling AK OOP.


Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $443.50
BB: $529
UTG: $406
CO: $137
BTN: $940.80

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $12, BB folds

Flop: ($32) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $77</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $165</font>, Hero?

Jay Riall 10-07-2007 07:03 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
wtf are you doiung check-raising the flop if you don't know how to respond to a 3bet?

keikiwai 10-07-2007 07:09 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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I have been experimenting with sometimes just calling AK OOP.


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why?

also, i don't think this is the best board to cr unless you think you can get it ai ahead of his range, which i doubt

d2themfi 10-07-2007 07:13 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
i think calling with Ak in position is good as a way to mix it up, but oop, i think we need to 3bet like almost always, just cause it shallows out the stacks and cuts down on ur reverse implied odds from being oop

yabastid 10-07-2007 07:13 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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wtf are you doiung check-raising the flop if you don't know how to respond to a 3bet?

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good question. Ok so looks like an easy fold . . .

Jay Riall 10-07-2007 07:17 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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wtf are you doiung check-raising the flop if you don't know how to respond to a 3bet?

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good question. Ok so looks like an easy fold . . .

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Well maybe but I would never check-raise tptk here to fold to a 3bet.

yabastid 10-07-2007 07:22 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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I have been experimenting with sometimes just calling AK OOP.


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why?

BECAUSE MY COACH TOLD ME TOO AND NOW I'M COMPLETELY [censored] CONFUSED!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] /rant

And when I hit TPTK I think it's the nuts because I've been so damn tricky. But a little hand reading/ranges etc. probablly makes this an easy fold... ok got it . . . .

cbboy 10-07-2007 07:39 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
Who's your coach?

BalugaWhale 10-07-2007 07:54 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
sometimes it is great to call OOP with AK and c/r an A or K high flop

this is not one of those times to c/r

* not OP's coach

Darkfolder 10-07-2007 07:58 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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sometimes it is great to call OOP with AK and c/r an A or K high flop

this is not one of those times to c/r

* not OP's coach

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yabastid 10-07-2007 08:03 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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sometimes it is great to call OOP with AK and c/r an A or K high flop

this is not one of those times to c/r

* not OP's coach

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So, baluga, what is your plan if you do call here PF. C/C flop and do what on a blank turn, being as though our hand is so under-repped?

Marwan 10-07-2007 08:10 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
I don't think that's Thac.. could be wrong though..

centgas 10-07-2007 10:26 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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sometimes it is great to call OOP with AK and c/r an A or K high flop

this is not one of those times to c/r

* not OP's coach

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And when is? A mad cbettor, aggro pf?

ipokeder 10-07-2007 10:55 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
call, check any turn/riv against him to get all in

orange 10-07-2007 11:10 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
yeah, don't really like the flop c/r as much. I prefer it on different flops that we are comfy getting it in on.

ddubois 10-07-2007 11:21 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
Yeah, K96 with a flush draw would be a great place to c/r AK and get it in, KQ3 rainbow, not so much.

ArturiusX 10-07-2007 11:36 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
Yeah good idea with bad practical implementation.

fslexcduck 10-08-2007 12:13 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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Yeah good idea with bad practical implementation.

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fslexcduck 10-08-2007 12:15 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
to add -

you were tricky preflop. so check/call a couple streets. maybe all three. you're still deceptive, but with this board texture, it's a much better way to get your money in good.

given how you played the hand, i'd just call and probably check/call all in on the turn.

yabastid 10-08-2007 12:56 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
ty, all . . .

Renton 10-08-2007 12:58 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
yeah c/c/c/c/c/c seems like one of many appropriate lines here. or c/c and lead.

leading the flop is cool as well

i think c/r is the worst of them though

0evg0 10-08-2007 01:36 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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Who's your coach?

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Nielsio 10-08-2007 01:46 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
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Villian is beepbeepImajeep who I think is Thac.

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That's not Thac.

goofyballer 10-08-2007 02:35 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
It is a sweet name though. It has some real staying power...picture replacing "CHOO CHOO" with "BEEP BEEP!" How awesome is that?

BalugaWhale 10-08-2007 02:51 AM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
board texture is huge dude, i love c/r an Axx drawy flop and getting it in here. its pretty bad to c/r a KQx board cause you're basically overrepping your hand.

and just cause our hand is "underrepped" doesn't really mean we have to get it all in, remember that hand ranges are relative

TouchDaSky 10-08-2007 01:03 PM

Re: AK against 2p2er (Thac?)
 
result?


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