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Lagtastic 11-29-2007 05:01 PM

I really need help with this spot.
 
1-2 NL Live

Hero: 410.00, 2nd in chips to the villian.
Villian: Covers me buy a decent amount. He has played very tight to this point, only showing down premo hands.

Hero is dealt 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the small blind. Folds to button, she limps, I raise to 10, only the BB calls.

FLOP: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I lead for 30, BB Calls

Turn J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero leads 90 Villian Raises to put me all in for the rest of my stack.

I am really lost at this point, is this really that easy of a call? All advice is appreciated.

Paul Thomson 11-29-2007 05:08 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
i don't know. live hands suck balls. do u know anything about the villain game. it seems like a fold. but does the villain ever possibly think that QJ or TJ is hte nuts here?

Ranma4703 11-29-2007 05:10 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
540 in the pot, 280 to call, seems like a call to me with full house outs + chances you are ahead.

the machine 11-29-2007 05:13 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
if you figure to be behind id let it go. you say hes been solid so far and do you think hes the type to overplay 2 pair, because thats all you are ahead of. we now have to call off 280 into 540 giving us ~2:1 and were at least a 3.5:1 dog to any hand that beats us.

if hes only capable of having a higher set or better then its a fold.

PUBgrub 11-29-2007 05:18 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
if he has the flush or AK you have ~20% equity. fold. i dislike the turn bet a lot.

Lagtastic 11-29-2007 05:18 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
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if he has the flush or AK you have ~20% equity. i dislike the turn bet a lot.

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yeah, after the fact i did to... you suggest a check?

the machine 11-29-2007 05:20 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
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if he has the flush or AK you have ~20% equity. i dislike the turn bet a lot.

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yeah, after the fact i did to... you suggest a check?

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no way in hell do you check this turn. youd hate to have him check behind and draw to a flush or straight for free, KsJ, As10, etc

PUBgrub 11-29-2007 05:22 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
no i still think betting is the right play. if i were in that spot i would fire about 3/4 the pot like ~65ish, that way if he pushes you can get away from it easier.

edit: by betting the pot i think you also fold out a lot of hands that would call a 3/4 pot bet like a two pair or TPTK.

Tempel 11-29-2007 05:22 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
this is a fold imo, the only hand you beat is the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jx, i dont see mr tight shove over your bet with worse holdings then you (unless your image is weaktight-will-fold-turn and he knows that..)

against an average liveplayer id call though. because they'd come over the top with a bare draw or top-two and all the other stuff you can imagine [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

orange 11-29-2007 05:23 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
ugh probably a fold. i would consider c/c-ing the turn this deep. though the live player in me says to call this

bilbo-san 11-29-2007 06:34 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
First, just complete pre-flop. It's live. Your fold equity on almost every flop sucks and your fold equity preflop sucks too (because it's live). Without FE, 66 is a pretty [censored] terrible hand OOP in a raised pot unless you flop a set.

As played, ugh. Think it's a fold. You don't really beat much unless she thinks your FoS a lot.

nazahl 11-29-2007 06:51 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
you are beat

Nielsio 11-29-2007 07:50 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
Preflop is horrifying.

fingersmith 11-29-2007 08:37 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
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Preflop is horrifying.

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calm down, it's not the best play but it's far from HORRIFYING. also, thanks for offering thoughtful commentary on anything but preflop, ever.

OP: rough spot, betting the turn is fine. based on your read and stack sizes you should probably swear and fold

Lagtastic 11-30-2007 06:30 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
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Preflop is horrifying.

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really? what do you want me to do? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

early325 11-30-2007 06:36 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
preflop is fine.

early325 11-30-2007 06:37 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
oh,, and you have to bet this turn -- and this is a fold

ChoicestHops 11-30-2007 07:06 PM

Re: I really need help with this spot.
 
What is he limping with on the button? I'm having a hard time putting him on an accurate range. I'm not sure how tight you are describing him but I am going to give him a somewhat wide range since he is on the button. I'm also going to be generous and say that he may limp TT+, AQ+ preflop.

59.552% { 6d6h }
40.448% { TT+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo+, QJo, JTo, 98o }

This is a tough spot and I'm not sure what I would do. I doubt this range is accurate.


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