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game is $8/$16 HU. ive been super hyper aggro, he stacked me like 3 times to start things off, once with a retarded suckout when he shoved a gutshot on turn vs my top two, twice with super light (read retarded imo) calldowns that were right both of the times. ive been battling back and hes back down to about a $1,800 stack again. ive been 3betting him a bunch, checkraising a bunch, 2 and 3barreling a bunch, etc. he thinks im a spewtard i guess judging by the retarded calldowns. ive seen him C/R bluff a decent amount on like JJ7 and KT2 boards and checkcall JK and stuff on the same boards so i dont know how much he cares about balancing... hand in question: he opens button for $48 as usual, i 3bet Td6d, he calls as usual. flop is 654, two spades. i bet $240, he shoves. $1,500 or whatever for me to call. be heroic? i thihnk this a draw like a huuuge part of the time obv, but i have to be right a huge amount of the time...

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i thihnk this a draw like a huuuge part of the time obv, but i have to be right a huge amount of the time...

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Plus a bare 7 has a ton of equity against you. fold

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made it $160 preflop sorry

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i wouldnt reraise T6d considering you expect him to call preflop givenn the way you wrote, i generally wouldn't call here given how you've been playing. best case your flipping?

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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call it

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even when ahead he has good equity blah blah, fold. pf is fine

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eh, i fold.

i think you might be ahead ~50% of the time, but I think he always has a big draw if you are. So you're either a little ahead, or crushed.

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8/16? wtf

besides that, wow, do not reraise T6s here, puts you in tons of horrible spots on the flop with your image.

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i think im ahead way more than 50%. hes just that predictable. but i think it needs to be a draw like... 85%+ so yeah i folded

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sure, i think it works with a better image than a spewtard, given he feels your prone to spew isnt this the prefect line for him with anything decent. he obv wants to showdown hands vs you, so i dont really see the point of going at it with junk as often your going to end up in this type of situation when you don't need to be.

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i think im ahead way more than 50%. hes just that predictable. but i think it needs to be a draw like... 85%+ so yeah i folded

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Right, because the problem with draws is that your hand is so vulnerable. like AKspades is close to a coinflip, and a straight/flushdraw you're flipping. same with a pair/draw.

and then there's the chance, that he has a straight, then maybe he's doing this with a set or 2pair.

I think I might call with 2pair in this spot, but not 6-10 here.

Although, if the 6 is a spade, it makes your hand stronger as it takes 6sxs out of his range

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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you have the same card as the highest card on the board. what's the question?

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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would fold vs described villan

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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ur still wrong

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btw, i still suspect its a fold and i did fold, still not sure ofc... i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3... does that change things?

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btw, i still suspect its a fold and i did fold, still not sure ofc... i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3... does that change things?

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hmm, if he's doing that gross [censored] on your 3-bets for stacks, then i personally like a fold here even more.

i think i'd then like to tighten up my 3-betting, as an adjustment to make me more willing to get it allin on flops. especially with no PT, he's very unlikely to realize you're adjusting and will keep spewing, and if you can weight your range such that it crushes his, you can be more patient.

Because the thing is if he's playing back at you, you can add 77,88,99,etc to his range, and it just seems to marginal in my opinion.

I think it's close though, my calling range would be around 77, JJ+ and then 45+. Then I'm calling any big suited Axs and like 67. kinda arbitrary and just off the top of my head, but i still think calling would be a mistake.


-jeff

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btw, i still suspect its a fold and i did fold, still not sure ofc... i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3... does that change things?

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not really. i can't see a situation where calling this is good. like ever. against a random hand it's barely a call.

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meh, I actually don't mind a call here. Considering this board is draw heavy as [censored], I prolly call here. If I'm thoroughly beating him though, I find this to be an easy fold.

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i think im ahead way more than 50%. hes just that predictable. but i think it needs to be a draw like... 85%+ so yeah i folded

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You seem to have a pretty good idea how his range looks like, so you basically ask sb to do the math for you by starting this thread?!

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This hand is similar to one posted by HEK where hero had 66 on a 345 board and consensus was to c/r ai. The reverse here is villain doesn't need a strong hand for your hand to have little value.

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i think im ahead way more than 50%. hes just that predictable. but i think it needs to be a draw like... 85%+ so yeah i folded

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You seem to have a pretty good idea how his range looks like, so you basically ask sb to do the math for you by starting this thread?!

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ok instead of ridiculing u for that response im just gonna ask u to elaborate. what do u mean by this post? whats ur point? please. id like to know.

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Dont know whats so hard to understand. These posts made me believe you can give villain an adequate range :

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i think im ahead way more than 50%. hes just that predictable.

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i kinda strongly suspect he will pull this BS with stuff like naked 7x, misguided semibluff with A4, A5 or A3.

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop.

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So it should all just come down to a math problem, no?

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well congrats u solved the puzzle. u realize that all situations in poker can be solved once u have a range and some odds etc? i dont know his range and i wanted input on it, so i asked. shouldnt i have?

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hes folding a huge amount of flops and is generally super readable postflop. i think i can make a profit

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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ur still wrong

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If someone folds a ton of flops, when he doesn't he probably has a hand right? (I understand you think most of these hands are draws). The bigger reason to fold here is because you're so sure you can outplay him in the longterm and pick up so many pots when he folds too many flops instead of risking so much on a big call which could be close to a flip or dead. Could you please explain your reasoning why it's still wrong?

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probably retarded? definitely retarded.

im too high to give a decent answer now ill come back to it.

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That's a good reason to fold here.

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no its not.

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I'm talking about here as in on the flop...

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ur still wrong

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If someone folds a ton of flops, when he doesn't he probably has a hand right? (I understand you think most of these hands are draws). The bigger reason to fold here is because you're so sure you can outplay him in the longterm and pick up so many pots when he folds too many flops instead of risking so much on a big call which could be close to a flip or dead. Could you please explain your reasoning why it's still wrong?

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because we're not playing a tournament and both players can reload????

it's a fold, but not for your reasoning

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because we're not playing a tournament and both players can reload????

it's a fold, but not for your reasoning

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lol, risk/reward doesn't apply in cash games!

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you re behind a lot of draws, like a7 is a favourite against you here, lots of flush draws are too, you cant rule out a set or sth.
i d fold.

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because we're not playing a tournament and both players can reload????

it's a fold, but not for your reasoning

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lol, risk/reward doesn't apply in cash games!

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No, not in the way you are trying to argue.

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luego,

Pretty easy fold and I suspect you knew that though.

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Given the history it looks like a fold. He probably thinks you will call his bet fairly light. Like other said when we make a sick read here our equity isn't as high as we would like.

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why not c/c flop is you dont want to call a shove? as played i would probably call though