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snowbank 10-10-2007 03:56 PM

$400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
Me and villain have been battling for a while. When he came to the table, I had around $2000+, up and down for a while, busted him, he bought back in, and is now up to around $1600, same as me. He 3 bets pf constantly, and I've done a bit of light 4 betting on him, but not a ton. He's called me VERY light a couple times, one time 3 streets with A high. However, he seems like a good aggro player, but definitely might be a leak how light he calls. I've made a ton of big river bets at him, the one's he's called I've either had a big hand, or air, so haven't done a ton of thin value betting on him. Here's the hand:

Hero: $1,600
Villain: $1,600

I raise 76o, villain 3 bets to $54, I make it $155. He calls.

Flop: 7AA, 2 clubs(I don't have a club)

He checks, I bet $200. He calls.

Turn: 4

He checks, I check.

River: 9c

He fires out $365.

I shove.

AcTiOnJaCsOn 10-10-2007 04:08 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
iono about the flop bet, if hes a tough player this puts u in a really difficult spot. Also on this board many people arent folding hands like 88 or 99 when u just make a continuation bet, so i might slow down on the flop. Another thing to consider is that he called the 4 bet out of position, which makes me think that hes not calling light to try and outplay you. Based on the fact that he probably has a hand and you said he has a tendency to make light call downs. I would probably just fold the river as played.

jfish 10-10-2007 04:11 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
this is psychotic

snowbank 10-10-2007 04:16 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
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iono about the flop bet, if hes a tough player this puts u in a really difficult spot. Also on this board many people arent folding hands like 88 or 99 when u just make a continuation bet, so i might slow down on the flop. Another thing to consider is that he called the 4 bet out of position, which makes me think that hes not calling light to try and outplay you. Based on the fact that he probably has a hand and you said he has a tendency to make light call downs. I would probably just fold the river as played.

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i was thinking along the same lines, that he probably had somewhat of a hand after calling the flop bet. He's called me down light before, but with me shoving over his bet, it's either air or a big hand, and i wouldn't shove QQ/KK hands here, so I thought he could put me on an A easily. I put him on a hand like TT-QQ.

olof86 10-10-2007 04:16 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
wow this is pretty sicko.. I can't say if its good or bad though, I can see him fold some strong hands so I guess it's a fine play.

I'd check that flop from time to time.

donkeykong2 10-10-2007 04:17 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
i like it.

catcher193 10-10-2007 04:24 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
I think 98+ is calling you a large % here, with the pace of game you describe he has to expect you to bet the turn with your strong hands (the only hand he can put you on is 99).

The only way this does work is if he expects you to control the pot sometimes on the turn with A8s then his river bet gives his hand away so you shove thin for value but thats a bit of a stretch run on sentence yes yes.

AAismyfriend 10-10-2007 04:46 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
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this is psychotic

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ipokeder 10-10-2007 04:53 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
ya dude you get called by 98 all the time here, so bad

0evg0 10-10-2007 06:03 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
this is horrific

and check the flop son

Hattifnatt 10-10-2007 06:08 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
ugh, call river if you want but shoving seems very bad.

catcher193 10-10-2007 06:10 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
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ya dude you get called by 98 all the time here, so bad

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is this sarcasm? I think he gets called by mediocre made hands and better a large % of the time.

KexChoklad123 10-10-2007 06:32 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
IMO this how you play AK if you get tricky.

I do not think his calling range on the river is as wide a catcher193 but wide enough for this to be EV-. If the game is in a up pace mode, why would you check the turn? IMO you are basically representing 99/A9 here, no?

Kex

Nick Royale 10-10-2007 06:37 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
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ya dude you get called by 98 all the time here, so bad

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is this sarcasm? I think he gets called by mediocre made hands and better a large % of the time.

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How could he ever show up with 98 here?

Hattifnatt 10-10-2007 06:39 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
meh, didnt see the river completed a flush, makes the shove somehwat less bad but still bad though.

Get_better_Baris 10-10-2007 06:39 PM

Re: $400nl: heads up- big river bluff- 400bb deep
 
i wanna puke


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