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AllinDan 11-02-2006 05:43 AM

*** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
I just got back from opening night, and the game was a disgrace. I'll save berating the players for another time, but I've never seen a team give up to the degree the warriors coaches did tonight. Late 3rd/early 4th quarter the Lakers went on a run and took a big ~15 point lead, so the warriors pulled all their starters and went with a lineup of Diogu, OBryant, Ellis, Pietrus, and Roberson, who was terrible. Ellis pretty much singlehandedly brought the team back to within 9 with almost 4 minutes left, and the team kept looking at the game as garbage time. Instead of bringing in Baron or Jrich and taking out roberson and OBryant (and Diogu but I'll get to him in a minute) they just left the second team in. OBryant took some awful shots and they blew a perfectly good chance to come back. down 9 with 4 minutes left is NOT garbage time. WTF Nelson?

Anyway, Diogu looked awful. Completely confused and just didn't seem to be doing anything in the half court offense. Of course, this was endemic to the whole team, their half court seemed to be based on giving Murphy(!) the ball up at the top and letting him do something with it. Baron didn't really drive and dish at all, when they should definitely be setting high screens for him with Murphy who can roll out and become a shooter while opening up the lane for Baron. Instead there was a lot of standing around and confusion. J Rich was never part of the offense at all, most of his shots were a result of him dribbling around and taking a fadeaway. I understand he's rusty, but they're just playing tons of one on one.

They actually got some nice play going in transition, except they missed ~100 wide open shots. Dunleavy can't hit a mid range jumper, and the team was 3/19 from behind the arc. Unlike last year though, they actually had good looks, and Murphy was doing a good job getting to the basket but just couldn't finish.

Biedrins is the only big on the team who can play any D, look for his minutes to go way up. Monta Ellis is a baller. He's gonna be really good. I don't even want to talk about free throws.


cliffs notes: same old warriors

Green Kool Aid 11-02-2006 05:55 AM

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Just wanted to say I'm a big Biedrins fan. Also...Monta looks a lot like a young Areans.

However--the Warriors are legitimately a bad team. They remind me a lot of my team (The Celtics), with a lot of interesting pieces, and a second tier superstar, but just really stagnating, lottery bound forever. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

AllinDan 11-02-2006 06:00 AM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
Monta reminds me of a lot of players, he's definitely got some Arenas in him, and some Iverson. Biedrins is tight, he's only 20!

Pierce > Baron

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but just really stagnating, lottery bound forever.

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Nellie was supposed to stop the stagnation and teach them to play basketball, which is why I'm so upset that they came out so. . .amateur, and played like it was their first game together.

I really do feel like this is a team that could improve and come together over the course of the season, but tonight I just didn't see the effort.

Buck_65 11-02-2006 06:25 PM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
The pre-game Baron speech about how this year is gonna be a lot better than last year was cute.

Green Kool Aid 11-02-2006 06:35 PM

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Pierce > Baron

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the second-tier superstar i was referring to was j-rich. i really like his game a lot. he actually compares very nicely to PP.

one thing i have noticed about him is that sometimes he looks for his own shot too much. maybe nellie can work with him on that.

PITTM 04-23-2007 05:53 PM

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bump for the best bay area sports moment since the 49ers won the superbowl in 1994. If anyone mentions the giants world series run i will go on a rampage. that never happened in my mind.

SirArthur 04-23-2007 06:04 PM

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Was a great moment, I'm still in a bit of disbelief that they are even in the playoffs.

It was great seeing Cubans reactions... He's such a poor loser. He's a billion dollar cry baby.

I'm with you on the Giants thing we won't talk mention.

**I posted this in the NBA playoff thread as well.



--Warriors first playoff win since 1992! Sweet, I've been waiting patiently and it finally came.

Once B. Davis came back in the lineup they went 16-5 to close the season.

The Warriors are not your typical 8th seed. J. Rich, & B. Davis were injured alot this year, and the trade with Indianna makes them more of a 4th or 5th seed type team.

The scary thing for the Mavs is that the tempo was more half courtish, and not run & gun like the Warriors would like and the Warriors beat the #1 team on the road playing the mavs at their own game.

The warriors were 10/30 from 3 point land, and the mavs 6/19, almost the same percentage wise.

Can't wait for the first playoff game in Oakland in 13 years, the Arena should be rocking for that one.

billyjex 04-23-2007 06:07 PM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
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bump for the best bay area sports moment since the 49ers won the superbowl in 1994. If anyone mentions the giants world series run i will go on a rampage. that never happened in my mind.

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i agree completely

PITTM 04-23-2007 06:26 PM

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this morning the first thing i did when i got to work was go to mark cubans blog. i was so disappointed that he didnt write anything about the game. I spent the whole 4th quarter going "fuuuuck, these ref's gave us 3 team fouls in the first like 3 minutes, this is gonna be a precursor to the standard warriors game of having their opponents shoot 35 foul shots down the stretch while we shoot like 5." I was shocked that this never happened.

hauchen 04-23-2007 06:29 PM

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link to cuban blog?

also, even though I'm a big W fan, I can't help but think that we got lucky that Dallas had piss-poor shooting + baron got white-hot

Jack of Arcades 04-23-2007 06:48 PM

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Cuban really doesn't write about the NBA anymore, but his blog his blogmaverick.com

SirArthur 04-23-2007 07:07 PM

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link to cuban blog?

also, even though I'm a big W fan, I can't help but think that we got lucky that Dallas had piss-poor shooting + baron got white-hot

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Warriors only shot 43%, to the Mavs 35%, and both about the same from three land.

It was Harrington or Jackson that said the Warriors didn't play all that great and they still won the game. They started out ice cold, 2-14 to begin the game.

They're defensive scheme worked great against Dirk, as soon as put the ball on the floor he immediately got a double team so he couldn't pivot and shoot his fad away.

J rich had a poor game, and Ellis didn't do much either and they still won on the road against the leagues best team, playing a more half court game.

Very encouraging of course any way you look at it...but ya Dallas isn't going to shoot 35% again in this series.

Jack of Arcades 04-23-2007 07:12 PM

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Yeah, Warriors played a damned good game to close out it. Both teams started ice cold. The difference was the Mavs finished ice cold and the Warriors picked it up at the end.

Dallas had the opportunities, though, and if they would have hit their open shots and layups it would have been a much different game.

Looking forward to the next 4 games! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PITTM 04-23-2007 08:22 PM

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Looking forward to the next 3 games! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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tdarko 04-23-2007 08:29 PM

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PITTM,

Its not like I don't believe your GS love but there is like 2500 posts in the NBA thread, where the hell were you then, I don't remember you making one post in that thread? I am just saying it is weird that all of the sudden we find out you are this huge GS die hard homer.

Aloysius 04-23-2007 08:39 PM

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PITTM,

Its not like I don't believe your GS love but there is like 2500 posts in the NBA thread, where the hell were you then, I don't remember you making one post in that thread? I am just saying it is weird that all of the sudden we find out you are this huge GS die hard homer.

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lol - this reminds me of all the Clipper bandwagon-ing last season. (Not so much on this board but in life.) All of a sudden everyone's a diehard Clipper fan...

OH YEAH WELL WHERE THE HELL WRE ALL U GYS THIS SEASON HUH? I'VE SAT THROUGH SOME HORRIBLE EFFIN' GAMES THIS SEASON SO WHEN WE'RE GOOD AGAIN NEXT YEAR YOU GUYS CAN SRSLY GO F YOURSELVES.

Sincerely Bitter We Didn't Make The Playoffs,
-Al

skunkworks 04-23-2007 08:47 PM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
Go little Ellis guy. He's fun to watch, and I love Baron Davis of course.

I have all the right to bandwagon the Clips though. In the 90s, I went to the Sports Arena 8 times before I got to see them win. Rodney Rogers was a beast. So yeah, I can hop on and off that bandwagon as much as I want.

skunkworks 04-23-2007 08:56 PM

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Also, I liked GS way long ago so don't call me a bandwagoner. I started liking them like... three or four games into their 9-1 streak to finish this season.

PITTM 04-23-2007 09:24 PM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
i dont post in the nba thread because in all honesty im really not very interested in the nba. I am pretty much only a warriors fan. I probably watched 50ish games this year and went to 4. I have probably went to 20ish games in the past 4 years. When they traded away Dunleavy and Murphy and got Harrington and Jackson i got super excited and really got into it again. I didnt post in the nba thread because the nba means "hey, lets never talk about the warriors because 90% of the nation barely realizes they exist". I wish i was just bandwagoning, because ive been a diehard Giants, 49ers, and Warriors fan my whole life and since 1994 things have been pretty miserable.

BobboFitos 04-23-2007 09:25 PM

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well... i went to 5 warriors games, 2 pretrade 3 after.. so my homerism is allowed ;p

tdarko 04-23-2007 09:31 PM

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Bobbo,

Wtf are you going to do if Utah faces GS?

PITTM,

Like I was saying I wasn't denying that you are a fan, I just found it weird that all of the sudden last night you pop up is all. You shouldn't be ashamed of the crappy times btw, take Green Kool Aid for example, he harnesses the crap that is the Celtics and we enjoy his thoughts on them, hell I wouldn't know anything about that team if it weren't for him.

SirArthur 04-23-2007 09:33 PM

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For the record, I've been a lifelong GSW fan

I grew up in the bay area, went to Warrior games in the 80's and 90's,& rarely missed a game on TV or radio during my childhood.
I remember watching Sleepy Floyd go off on the Lakers in the playoffs in 1987. He scored 29 points in one quarter a playoff record to this day I believe. The Warriors won that game but lost the series, and the Lakers went on to win the Championship that year.
I remember a girl asked me to a dance when I was in the 7th grade, and I said I couldn't go because the Warriors game was on TV.
I moved to Sacramento to go to college in the 90's and maintained my loyalty to Warriors.
I've been teased by Kings fans for 10 years for being a Warriors fan.

I don't care for the Kings, they were extremely entertaining to watch a few years back, but I despise Weber after the whole Nellie/Weber fiasco back in 1994.
Plus I hated his arrogant cocky attitude with Michigan with the whole FAB FIVE thing.

Anyway, no bandwagoning on my part.

BobboFitos 04-23-2007 09:39 PM

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Bobbo,

Wtf are you going to do if Utah faces GS?

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lol td, good q.

well, ill buy sick seats if possible, so that will be sweet

other then that? its a win win, bc then 1 of my top teams would be in the WCF.

tdarko 04-23-2007 09:47 PM

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Wow I remember Sleepy Floyd, thats a blast from the past!

SirArthur 04-23-2007 09:57 PM

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Wow I remember Sleepy Floyd, thats a blast from the past!

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Ya, I'm an old timer, in my 30's now.

I watched the Warriors in the 80's when they had old Purvis short with his massive rainbow jumpers, and their underachieving center named Joe Barry Carrol.
He was called Joe Barely Cares, because he had no passion & underachieved.

But ya, Sleepy Floyd averaged 12 points in his career and managed to score 39 points in one half against the Lakers who had Kareem, Magic, & Worthy.

I just looked it up, and it's still a record to this day. Playoff points in a quarter, and a half. 29/39.

tdarko 04-23-2007 10:16 PM

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Sir Arthur,

My mom is from Houston and was a big Rockets/Oilers (Luv Ya Blue!) fan...so I remember him mostly as a Rocket. I was also like 9 or something when he was w/ GS and most of the GS stuff that I ever remember of him was old highlight tapes that I had and they were mainly highlights of Mullin or Higgins but the name "Sleepy" sticks with a youngin'.

SirArthur 04-23-2007 10:24 PM

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He was traded to Houston from the warriors for Ralph Sampson in late 1987.
I just looked up his career, I totally forget he played for the Spurs & the Nets and retired in 1995.
Didn't realize his career lasted that long.

But yes, he played like 5 seasons with the Warriors & 5 with the Rockets.

How can anyone forget "Sleepy", an odd name for an athlete, but he did have funky looking eyes.

PITTM 04-24-2007 01:15 AM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
lets just all agree to hate the kings.

AllinDan 04-24-2007 01:50 AM

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haha this thread [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Go warriors! I'll be at all home games of course

PITTM 04-25-2007 05:11 PM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
bump for easy access for pending going 2-0 up celebration.

SirArthur 04-26-2007 02:47 AM

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warning impending whine-

The fix was in on game, no way the officials were going to allow the Warriors to go up 2-0.
The calls were so one sided it was sickening.

The Warriors probably would have lost anyway, but were not given a chance by the three extra Mavs fans on the court.

PITTM 04-26-2007 11:41 AM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
last nights game was the officiating i was expecting would make us lose game 1 down the stretch and never came. im just worried the rest of the series will be the same bs. i hope not. i will be there on friday.

BobboFitos 04-28-2007 01:50 AM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
is it safe to NOW say GS have the edge in the series, up 2-1?

craig1120 04-28-2007 01:55 AM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
I love the way Nelson and Mullin are playing mind games with the Mavs by calling the Warriors lucky and implying there is no way they can win the series haha

PITTM 04-28-2007 03:37 AM

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i just got home from the game and i must say that was the greatest sporting event i have ever been to. i honestly wanted to murder the ref's in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, but damn we [censored] DESTROYED the mav's. SERIOUSLY. we should have won that game by like 40. It was SOOOO loud and just a sea of gold.

AllinDan 04-28-2007 03:50 AM

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i just got home from the game and i must say that was the greatest sporting event i have ever been to.

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well said. well, until sunday anyway.

craig1120 04-28-2007 03:58 AM

Re: *** GS Warriors 2006-07 Thread
 
Also I thought Nellie starting Biedrins over Harrington was money. Biedrins has much more of a presence around the basket plus Harrington is struggling right now.

PITTM 04-28-2007 04:04 AM

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OMG I FORGOT ABOUT THE BIEDRINS DUNK!!! AIR LATVIA!

craig1120 04-28-2007 04:07 AM

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where were u sitting and how did you get tix/cost etc?

PITTM 04-28-2007 04:13 AM

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i was sitting in the very last row of the upper deck in the diagonal to the left of the broadcast angle. Our tickets were 100 bucks each. My friend bought them on craigslist a week ago.


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