Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Politics (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43)
-   -   Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=536816)

Johnny Hughes 11-02-2007 09:42 AM

Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
I hate self-centered, history making, third-party candidates. Colbert is in it for the publicity. Nader got Bush elected. Now this creep is thinking about running again. A vote for either is a wasted vote. It does not make a statement. Colbert is not near as funny as Ross Perot.

Johnny Hughes

tomdemaine 11-02-2007 09:51 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
I hate self-centered, history making, third-party candidates. Colbert is in it for the publicity.

[/ QUOTE ]

Colbert is in it for the exact same reasons as the other candidates, publicity money and power at least he's being honest about it.

Case Closed 11-02-2007 09:58 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
Guys, Colbert is not running so get over this whole silly thing about him.

And you're wrong about Nader. He never got Bush elected, it's absurd to parrot the major news media's crazy ideas about 3rd parties.

Mr Sarcastic 11-02-2007 10:27 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
Amen, Johnny.

If 1/2 the Nader voters in Nevada had voted for Gore, then Gore would have clinched the Electoral College, and Bush would never have been President.

Did those couple of thousand votes matter ? Hey, we have been at war for years because of them.

SNOWBALL 11-02-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
I hate self-centered, history making, third-party candidates. Colbert is in it for the publicity. Nader got Bush elected. Now this creep is thinking about running again. A vote for either is a wasted vote. It does not make a statement. Colbert is not near as funny as Ross Perot.

Johnny Hughes

[/ QUOTE ]

Al Gore got bush elected by sucking so much.

Case Closed 11-02-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
Amen, Johnny.

If 1/2 the Nader voters in Nevada had voted for Gore, then Gore would have clinched the Electoral College, and Bush would never have been President.

Did those couple of thousand votes matter ? Hey, we have been at war for years because of them.

[/ QUOTE ]
And if Gore has carried his own state he would have won.

If Gore protested the disenfranchisement of Floridian black voters he would have more of a chance.

The voters for Nader were pulled from approximately half democrats and half republicans.

Perhaps Gore should have utilized his greatest campaign asset, the Clintons instead of running scared from a supposed political liability.

Perhaps you should know that we don't live in a actual two party oligarchy, even though it seems that way. And people have a right to choose whatever candidate they want to vote for. Nader provided the needed service of standing as a candidate who represented a group of people who were not represented in either major party. His determination in the face of assured failure should be applauded not denigrated. It's repugnant that people actually blame this man for the 2000 election when all he did was provide an alternative choice.

andyfox 11-02-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
Nader did not get Bush elected. Al Gore lost his home state. If he wins it, Florida is irrelevant.

TomCollins 11-02-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
Nader did not get Bush elected. Al Gore lost his home state. If he wins it, Florida is irrelevant.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's much more likely that Pat Buchanan cost Gore the election by the retarded voters who couldn't figure out how to follow an arrow and voted for him instead of Gore.

http://www.fadetoblack.com/floriduh/

Case Closed 11-02-2007 12:13 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Nader did not get Bush elected. Al Gore lost his home state. If he wins it, Florida is irrelevant.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's much more likely that Pat Buchanan cost Gore the election by the retarded voters who couldn't figure out how to follow an arrow and voted for him instead of Gore.

http://www.fadetoblack.com/floriduh/

[/ QUOTE ]
How can Jesse Jackson show up to every single African American's right situation and miss the ball on these situation? The confusing ballot this is so silly.

bills217 11-02-2007 01:15 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
A vote for anyone is a wasted vote.

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

lehighguy 11-02-2007 01:42 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
Running for the primary in one state....right.

Misfire 11-02-2007 01:48 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's much more likely that retarded voters cost Gore the election because they couldn't figure out how to follow an arrow.


[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

If you can't figure out the ballot, your vote shouldn't count anyway.

Farfenugen 11-02-2007 02:50 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
Each candidate is responsible for gaining the votes they need to win the election. It is Al Gore's responsibility to appeal to the voters he needs to get into office. If he does not do this, and Nader gets those votes, then the failure is solely on Al Gore.

Also, I think its impossible to assume that those who voted for Nader would have turned around and voted for Al Gore, had Nader not run. They may have voted for another candidate, not voted at all, etc.

Dan. 11-02-2007 03:11 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
It is impossible to assume that those who voted for Nader would have turned around and voted for Al Gore, had Nader not run. They may have voted for another candidate, not voted at all, etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

/thread

AlexM 11-02-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]

And you're wrong about Nader. He never got Bush elected, it's absurd to parrot the major news media's crazy ideas about 3rd parties.

[/ QUOTE ]

AlexM 11-02-2007 06:46 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]

Did those couple of thousand votes matter ? Hey, we have been at war for years because of them.

[/ QUOTE ]

We would have been at war anyway.

AlexM 11-02-2007 06:50 PM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]

Perhaps you should know that we don't live in a actual two party oligarchy, even though it seems that way. And people have a right to choose whatever candidate they want to vote for. Nader provided the needed service of standing as a candidate who represented a group of people who were not represented in either major party. His determination in the face of assured failure should be applauded not denigrated. It's repugnant that people actually blame this man for the 2000 election when all he did was provide an alternative choice.

[/ QUOTE ]

Indeed. And even if 100% of Nader's votes would have gone to Gore, people should be blaming the system, not the candidate. Implement Instant Runoff Voting and this simply isn't a problem, so the Democrats once again have no one to blame but themselves.

andyfox 11-03-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
Again, Gore carries his home state and the results in Florida are meaningless.

JuntMonkey 11-03-2007 01:04 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's repugnant that people actually blame this man for the 2000 election when all he did was provide an alternative choice.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ron Burgundy 11-03-2007 04:12 AM

Re: Stephen Colbert, Ralph Nader
 
[ QUOTE ]
I hate self-centered, history making, third-party candidates.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, as opposed to the mainstream politicians who aren't self-centered?

[ QUOTE ]
Colbert is in it for the publicity.

[/ QUOTE ]

WHAT??? REALLY??? What a startling revelation.

[ QUOTE ]
Nader got Bush elected.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's people who believe retarded logic like this that causes retards to get elected.

[ QUOTE ]
Now this creep is thinking about running again.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good. I hope he gets more votes than ever, even though my political views are very different from his.

[ QUOTE ]
A vote for either is a wasted vote.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, a vote for a neo-con or corporatist socialist is a wasted vote. Which means all the mainstream party candidates except Ron Paul.

[ QUOTE ]
It does not make a statement.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wait a minute... you just said Ralph Nader was the deciding factor in the election, and you're saying that doesn't make a statement? If you were right about Nader, I'd say he made one hell of a big statement. You don't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.

[ QUOTE ]
Colbert is not near as funny as Ross Perot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ross Perot was funny because Dana Carvey made him funny.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:49 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.