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BowToYourSensei 11-23-2007 08:47 PM

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my mind is having a very difficult time wrapping around this notion. yes, i know there's like, 700000 threads about this week's college football, or teh college football season in general, or the big 12, or the BCS, or the KU v Mizzou matchup tomorrow.

this still deserves its own thread, as far as i'm concerned

Franchise 60 11-23-2007 08:48 PM

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Kansas winning the National Title is great for college football.

I'll be rooting for them.

noseeds99 11-23-2007 08:49 PM

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Whoever wins the border war will prob be #1 imo

Franchise 60 11-23-2007 08:51 PM

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Whoever wins the border war will prob be #1 imo

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I agree, as they should be. The craziest part of LSU losing is that both OSU and WVU have a great shot at getting to the title game now.

capone0 11-23-2007 08:53 PM

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So they are going to lose. It's going to happen. It's happened every time this year.

BowToYourSensei 11-23-2007 08:54 PM

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So they are going to lose. It's going to happen. It's happened every time this year.

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then mizzou is the #1 team in the country. still an insane notion.

BigPoppa 11-23-2007 09:12 PM

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This is right up there with Northwestern going to the Rose Bowl for sheer weirdness.

88jayhawks 11-23-2007 10:02 PM

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George Mason in the final four?

stuff like this does happen ever so often.

KUJustin 11-24-2007 01:23 AM

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Hate to even mention this, but even if it's not Kansas it will be Missouri which is equally notable.

88jayhawks 11-24-2007 01:24 AM

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Hate to even mention this, but even if it's not Kansas it will be Missouri which is equally notable.

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qft

Franchise 60 11-24-2007 01:30 AM

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George Mason in the final four?

stuff like this does happen ever so often.

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The power structure in College football is much much different than in Basketball.

88jayhawks 11-24-2007 01:33 AM

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George Mason in the final four?

stuff like this does happen ever so often.

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The power structure in College football is much much different than in Basketball.

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very true

KUJustin 11-24-2007 02:56 AM

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George Mason in the final four?

stuff like this does happen ever so often.

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The power structure in College football is much much different than in Basketball.

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This is why I'm so stunned by some of the college basketball teams that manage to be terrible year-after-year.

I believe at one point KSU's consecutive losses to KU got up to 34. That's just mind-boggling. They currently haven't beaten us at their home in 24 years. Of course, it looks like even they will achieve some success this year, but it's just amazing how bad they were for 15+ years.

There are too many reasons to list, but it's just not that hard to be good from time to time. I think this is one of the reasons that most people can name 10-15 "great" all-time football programs, but the list for basketball drops off hard after 4 or 5. The fact that it's easy to have occasional success also means it's hard to maintain dominance over time.

suzzer99 11-24-2007 03:13 AM

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Hate to even mention this, but even if it's not Kansas it will be Missouri which is equally notable.

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Which pretty much guarantees that OK will beat whomever wins. The KC general area hasn't been allowed to win anything since 1988. Coincidentally the year Shottenheimer arrived. No city that Marty ever coached in has ever won a national title at anything--during or after. I call it Shottenherimeritis. It also seems to fan out in about a 150 MPH radius. Roy Williams proved however, that it is possible to recover from Shottenheimeritis, given sufficient time away from the afflicted area.

BigPoppa 11-24-2007 03:56 AM

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Hate to even mention this, but even if it's not Kansas it will be Missouri which is equally notable.

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Which pretty much guarantees that OK will beat whomever wins. The KC general area hasn't been allowed to win anything since 1988. Coincidentally the year Shottenheimer arrived. No city that Marty ever coached in has ever won a national title at anything--during or after. I call it Shottenherimeritis. It also seems to fan out in about a 150 MPH radius. Roy Williams proved however, that it is possible to recover from Shottenheimeritis, given sufficient time away from the afflicted area.

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This explains so much about the way the world works.......

MicroBob 11-24-2007 04:17 AM

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If Mizzou wins and it's especially ugly while WV wins really impressively then it could end up being extremely close between those teams for #1.
I think Mizzou probably still would edge them out though.

Regardless, you now have the possibility of WV vs. KU or Mizzou in the title game if they win out. But that's hardly a guarantee for any of the 3.

Who goes if all 3 of those teams screw it up on the way?
OSU vs. who??

Jeremy517 11-24-2007 04:38 AM

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Who goes if all 3 of those teams screw it up on the way?
OSU vs. who??

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Probably LSU, if they win the SEC title game. If LSU loses also, then probably Georgia if they're the one to beat LSU, or Oklahoma if Georgia isn't the one to beat LSU.

KUJustin 11-24-2007 05:53 AM

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I think you can't rule out a 12-1 Kansas team in that scenario with the other contenders having two losses. They'd probably be behind 2-loss LSU and a 2-loss OU team that just beat them though.

BowToYourSensei 11-24-2007 07:47 AM

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I think you can't rule out a 12-1 Kansas team in that scenario with the other contenders having two losses.

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yes you can. they played 2 ranked teams all year and one of em was KSU at 24th in the country, and they wouldn't even be champions of their own division, let alone conference.

Shaqalicious 11-24-2007 07:57 AM

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guys,

i dont even know how to put this

i've been a jayhawk basketball fan since i was a wee 2nd grader back in 1992.

my first basketball memories are of greg ostertag.

ive never really cared about college football.

but right now i am more of a nervous wreck than i have ever been before a KU basketball game.

even in 03 when we played syracuse for the national championship. even before maryland in in the 02 final four.


i cant believe my beloved jayhawks are playing for a unanimous #1 ranking in less than 14 hours.

playing for a chance at a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

IS THIS EVEN REAL?????????


no matter what happens today... this proves to me that following sports is 100% worth it and anything can happen

just wow.. i'm speechless, i wish i could articulate to you guys what this season has been like.

ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK

sandycove 11-24-2007 09:08 AM

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Well, I know how to put it:

I was in the stands at Allen Field House 3 December 1956 when Wilt lit it up for 52 points against Northwestern (87-69) in his first varsity game.

I was in the stands at Miami’s Orange Bowl in ’69 when Bobby Douglass and John Riggins went down to Penn State 15-14 because KU had 12 men on the field for four of the last six plays.

I was at the team hotel post-game in Kansas City in 1988 the night Danny and the Miracles improbably whipped Oklahoma 83-79 to take the national title at Kemper Arena.

Tonight’s game is bigger...

If we win.

As far as I’m concerned, the Big XII title game and any subsequent BCS events are wholly irrelevant and any notion of Kansas becoming the national intercollegiate football champion in any year is preposterous...

But it is fun.

mother_brain 11-24-2007 11:00 AM

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Just listened to the local radio station for an hour here in columbia. Apparently this is being billed as the biggest day in missouri sports history. bigger than rams winning SB or Cards winning the WS.

Oh yeah, and mizzou's offense will have no problem putting up 40, i heard that alot.

88jayhawks 11-24-2007 11:24 AM

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my pledge brother [censored] bobby douglas' daughter, a lot.

HajiShirazu 11-24-2007 01:07 PM

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Winner of this game has like a 5-10% chance of winning the title, lol. GL to fans of both teams though.

KUJustin 11-24-2007 01:15 PM

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Winner of this game has like a 30% chance of winning the title, lol. GL to fans of both teams though.

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THAY3R 11-24-2007 01:32 PM

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No chance will the winner of this game be favorites in both the Conference Championship game and National Championship game.


Cmon now....

gumpzilla 11-24-2007 01:46 PM

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No chance will the winner of this game be favorites in both the Conference Championship game and National Championship game.


Cmon now....

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I don't know, that doesn't seem so unreasonable to me. Especially since WVU is perhaps the most likely title game opponent.

KUJustin 11-24-2007 01:53 PM

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There's a 20% chance they'll be 70% favorites in the CCG (OSU), and 80% that they'll be at about 50% (OU).

I think either team is within a 3 pt spread of WVU (probably favored), same against OSU.

30% to win the title assumes they're 54% to win the title game which was possibly ambitious. Either way 10% was way off and 30% is closer to correct than 25%.

THAY3R 11-24-2007 02:15 PM

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I'll lay 3 to 1 that they don't fooo shoooo

vhawk01 11-24-2007 02:15 PM

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I think you can't rule out a 12-1 Kansas team in that scenario with the other contenders having two losses. They'd probably be behind 2-loss LSU and a 2-loss OU team that just beat them though.

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tOSU doesnt have two losses. So they'd have to be beaten out by only one other 2-loss team. They will be.

BigSoonerFan 11-24-2007 02:34 PM

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I think you can't rule out a 12-1 Kansas team in that scenario with the other contenders having two losses. They'd probably be behind 2-loss LSU and a 2-loss OU team that just beat them though.

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tOSU doesnt have two losses. So they'd have to be beaten out by only one other 2-loss team. They will be.

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Reading check....you're saying that if KU wins tonight and loses to OU, then it's OSU and a two-loss team?

vhawk01 11-24-2007 02:44 PM

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I think you can't rule out a 12-1 Kansas team in that scenario with the other contenders having two losses. They'd probably be behind 2-loss LSU and a 2-loss OU team that just beat them though.

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tOSU doesnt have two losses. So they'd have to be beaten out by only one other 2-loss team. They will be.

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Reading check....you're saying that if KU wins tonight and loses to OU, then it's OSU and a two-loss team?

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Depends on what happens with WVU.

MicroBob 11-24-2007 02:56 PM

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ive never really cared about college football.

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following sports is 100% worth it

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Sounds like you never followed this particular team/sport very much to begin with.

BigSoonerFan 11-24-2007 04:14 PM

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ive never really cared about college football.

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following sports is 100% worth it

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Sounds like you never followed this particular team/sport very much to begin with.

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Reminds of when Oklahoma was playing for the basketball NC in 1988....and lost to those posers from KU!

MicroBob 11-24-2007 04:20 PM

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True.

Lots more hoops fans in Gainesville these days too.
Somewhat more football fans in Bloomington, IN these days as well and they're not even competing for a national championship, they're just excited to have a chance to go to ANY bowl period.

88jayhawks 11-24-2007 04:29 PM

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we're not posers.

MicroBob 11-24-2007 04:31 PM

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Did I not read that just 15 or so yrs ago a KU/MU matchup only drew 21k fans or something?

88jayhawks 11-24-2007 04:40 PM

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Did I not read that just 15 or so yrs ago a KU/MU matchup only drew 21k fans or something?

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i'm not sure what you read, maybe every single one of the 21k was a KU fan. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Troll_Inc 11-24-2007 05:14 PM

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Did I not read that just 15 or so yrs ago a KU/MU matchup only drew 21k fans or something?

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i'm not sure what you read, maybe every single one of the 21k was a KU fan. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The last 30 yrs Nebraska fans outnumbered KU fans in Lawrence though.

THAY3R 11-24-2007 05:17 PM

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Year of the bandwagon.


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