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jkkkk 11-23-2007 02:26 AM

huhuhu
 
villain is a little passive pf, probably defends a little too light, doesn't 3bet enough imo

stacks 600 eff

last 3 BB's I have repopped, he folded to one of them and defended two folding the flop, next BB I have AJ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

he opens for 14, I make it a standard 50, he makes it 150, I?

ikestoys 11-23-2007 02:38 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
what limit?

obiedman 11-23-2007 02:38 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
i'm guessing 2/4. i'd prob 5-bet. i def wouldnt call

jkkkk 11-23-2007 02:40 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
2/4

PerDoom 11-23-2007 02:45 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
if he doesn't 3bet enough pre, he probably isn't going to be the type to go into preflop wars. fold

Eagles 11-23-2007 04:35 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
Seriously, I think this is a reallly bad hand to post because you know better than anyone else. Its either a really either shove or a really easy fold depending on the specific villain and its almost impossible to tell from the info given.

Jeffmet3 11-23-2007 04:45 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
you can't call.

fold or shove.

i fold this everytime, odds of you being dominated are very high, and you don't have much of his range crushed at all.

jfish 11-23-2007 10:48 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
5 bets

Darkfolder 11-23-2007 10:59 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
I fold it pretty quick.

MrHoobris 11-23-2007 11:02 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
The math:

Current pot size: 50+150=200
Pot Size if Called: 600*2=1200
Left to shove: 600-50=550

Equity when called:

Hand 0: 69.143% { JJ+, TcTd, TcTh, TcTs, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 30.857% { AJs }
Not sure how he'll react with TT or AQo given your history. But you'll always have around 30% equity, as you would with any suited ace.

Let X=P(Fold), breakeven point of shove:
EV(0) = 200X + (1-X)(1200*0.308 - 550)
X = 47.4%

Therefore, he must fold almost half the time for this shove to be profitable. His calling range represents 3.5% of combos, so he needs to be doing this with:
3.5%/(1-47.4%) = 6.66% of total combos.

I like a shove given your history, as I'd say he could be getting to the point of doing this with a far great portion of his range. There's also an outside chance that he'll be tilted into calling with a wider range against you are flipping or better. If he's calling with 88-99 This makes the fact you have AJs instead of A7s very important.

2hi4me2cu 11-23-2007 11:23 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
I really think you need to fold, based on what youve said about him defending light - hes probably only playing the strength of his own hands - i think its obvious hes holding a monster and your pretty much dominated.

Christophers 11-23-2007 11:34 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
Muck it fast.

Isura 11-23-2007 11:57 AM

Re: huhuhu
 
fold

The Velour Fog 11-23-2007 02:02 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
lays it down obv

Yeti 11-23-2007 02:33 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
everyone saying fold, what about AQ?

DLizzle 11-23-2007 02:45 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
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Seriously, I think this is a reallly bad hand to post because you know better than anyone else. Its either a really either shove or a really easy fold depending on the specific villain and its almost impossible to tell from the info given.

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exactly, posting a HU hand like this is totally useless.

FoxwoodsFiend 11-23-2007 03:52 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
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everyone saying fold, what about AQ?

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FOLD!

Yeti 11-23-2007 04:02 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
wtf you'd fold AQ ariel? next you'll be telling me aejones folds it too

PartyScout 11-23-2007 04:06 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
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i'm guessing 2/4. i'd prob 5-bet. i def wouldnt call

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5bets lol

FoxwoodsFiend 11-23-2007 04:17 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
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wtf you'd fold AQ ariel? next you'll be telling me aejones folds it too

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i got it all in with AQ 8 times yesterday and was never even as good as coinflipping. and even i would fold here

Pasterbator 11-23-2007 07:58 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
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wtf you'd fold AQ ariel? next you'll be telling me aejones folds it too

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i got it all in with AQ 8 times yesterday and was never even as good as coinflipping. and even i would fold here

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i used to go broke here all the time with AQ, and it honestly is not a very good idea.

People dont 4bet light as often as you think they do. They have AK a ton and JJ+ the rest.

cts 11-23-2007 11:01 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
fold, but with the given conditions i call pre a ton here rather than 3b precisely bc of this. your hand isnt quite good enough even though youre gonna get played back at a bunch

Ship Ship McGipp 11-23-2007 11:31 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
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fold, but with the given conditions i call pre a ton here rather than 3b precisely bc of this. your hand isnt quite good enough even though youre gonna get played back at a bunch

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espec witht hese stacks

jkkkk 11-26-2007 02:38 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
completely forgot about this thread, interesting responses, some of you guys fold AQ here? wow.

anyway I shoved he snap called w/ AA and held, gg me.

fsuplayer 11-26-2007 03:25 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
i fold AJs and AQ here as well., like, quickly.

Renton 11-26-2007 08:40 PM

Re: huhuhu
 
calling pre here seems best with a hand like this (or 88, 99, KQ, etc) given flow.


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