Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
Have to admit I didn't see that one coming. Now I don't feel so bad that I kept calling him "blewaman". [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] No clue why he felt the need to blow himself up though, guess he couldn't take the anonymity anymore even though he was becoming a semi-celeb for those staking threads.
Also, I am as fat as I've ever been, there is like zero question. Damned third and fourth helpings. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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Could you give ma hint/link/searchword to find out about what you are talking? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] thx
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My Dutch friend,
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post13077330 I should have provided a link in my original post. I think I was just bloated on turkey and not thinking clearly. |
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Epic
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jay claims he told me this 6 months ago and apparently i just shrugged.
sorry heh |
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makes sense if you think about it. Blueman posted a decent amount in BFI but they were all low quality posts.
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the fact that i have been abusing and mocking both of those posters without knowing they were degen means i am a great mod
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the fact that i have been abusing and mocking both of those posters without knowing they were degen means i am a great mod [/ QUOTE ] That's not nice at all. Somebody should make a thread in ATF or something about this rampant mod abuse. |
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I just banned degen again. Apparently he's planning a jihad on 2+2's traffic by buying up all relevant 2+2 domains. I don't really know too much about it. Here is his blog post that he spammed in travel.
[ QUOTE ] It's a great life. I feel like I've been let free from a mental prison. I broke up with my girlfriend and took a break from poker. I was miserable for one week, really bad. Then I began to wake up. Now I am in the zone with business and personal relationships like I have never been. I'm managing an international team of people that is growing by the day. So ya traveling has been fun. I'm listening to some Kanye and ducking greens and reds like I'm isteward or nos1nos2. Do me a favor and if you figure out what you think I've said in the following long rambling epic post, don't be a tardface and blast it all over various internet forums and mod forums and affiliate forums and all that jazz. It would be nice if I could retain the ability to reply in this thread with this account and then we can go from there. Pretty sure I'll continue the staking thing and Nation got in on that last week, and I hope he'll get in in this week, not that he'd let that influence his modding decisions, but ya, I think this is newsworthy and I think he agrees and I think it'll be a whole lot better for all involved if I can communicate about those things in this thread instead of through my personal blog, which the 2+2 admins have no control over. Anyway, here it is... [50 Cent] Go, go, go, go Go, go, go shawty It's your birthday We gon' party like it's yo birthday We gon' sip Bacardi like it's your birthday And you know we don't give a [censored] It's not your birthday! [Chorus] (2x) You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub Look mami I got the X if you into taking drugs I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love So come give me a hug if you into to getting rubbed [Verse] When I pull out up front, you see the Benz on dubs When I roll 20 deep, it's 20 knives in the club [censored] heard I [censored] with Dre, now they wanna show me love When you sell like Eminem, and the hoes they wanna [censored] But homie ain't nothing change hold down, G's up I see Xzibit in the Cutt that [censored] roll that weed up If you watch how I move you'll mistake me for a playa or pimp Been hit wit a few shells but I dont walk wit a limp In the hood then the ladies saying "50 you hot" They like me, I want them to love me like they love 'Pac But holla in New York them [censored]'ll tell ya im loco And the plan is to put the rap game in a choke hold I'm feelin' focused man, my money on my mind I got a mill out the deal and I'm still on the grind Now shawty said she feeling my style, she feeling my flow Her girlfriend wanna get bi and they ready to go [Chorus] (2x) [Bridge] My flow, my show brought me the doe That bought me all my fancy things My crib, my cars, my pools, my jewels Look [censored] I got K-Mart and I ain't change [Verse] And you should love it, way more then you hate it [censored] you mad? I thought that you'd be happy I made it I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life You that [censored] ass [censored] trying to pull me back right? When my junk get to pumpin in the club it's on I wink my eye at ya bitch, if she smiles she gone If the roof on fire, let the [censored] burn If you talking bout money homie, I ain't concerned I'm a tell you what Banks told me cause go 'head switch the style up If the [censored] hate then let 'em hate Watch the money pile up Or we go upside there wit a bottle of bub You know where we [censored] be [Chorus] (2x) [Talking] (laughing) Don't try to act like you ain't know where we been either [censored] In the club all the time [censored], its about to pop off [censored] G-Unit I tried to buy 2+2 publishing, and the forums. Mason Malmuth is an irrational prick. They think their $3-5 million dollar asset is worth $100,000,000. Ok, have fun on that acid trip sir. I'm done drooling over the prospect of working with 2+2, in any form. It was a fun process to put the deal together, and as time goes on I'll talk more about it, but in the end what I figured out is that the poker world, specifically when it relates to site owners and marketers, is filled with amateurs. I figured out I have a network of hundreds of people up to the highest levels of online poker. I wrote an amazing business plan and parlayed the possibility of this deal into things which could be much bigger. In short, it is an amazing time for me right now. If you are one that cares, I was Blueman and Wally Balls on 2+2 for the last five or six months. I built up strong names with each of them and Blueman is going to be missed this week in BBV. Poker backing site Stakaments.com got over 2,000 hits last Sunday. I had over 300 people send in emails asking to be staked through the site, and I chose a strong crop of 20 to play the Stars Sunday Million. We lost money overall but it was of no consequence and was to be expected really, we won $13,000 the week before. Now this Sunday they'll find Blueman banned and Degen laughing his asss off at having served up the ultimate 2+2 ownage. I how I wish I had saved the PM's! Blueman had a great reputation, certain mods are just clowns that have no idea what is best for 2+2. Whatever, I've finally outgrown it. Now I'll hire some college kids and pay them to get good at posting on 2+2 and take 60% of their profits. Seems better anyway I'll be updating this blog more, but you'll have a new Bill. This is no longer Degen. This is not Wild Bill, this is not Blueman. This is the CEO of TorrentMarketing.com. You can follow along on my business blog I think I've outgrown this blog, but I'm very glad I was talked into opening it back up again. I'll leave it here, for the ages. I'm not ashamed of anything. If anybody has that post saved from when I choked that whore, email it to me, I want to put it back up. I'd never do that now and it was rather horrible, but that was some good writing...and one helluva an experience. (Once I can figure out how to turn the archives back on I'll do that) Maybe I said some stupid [censored] when I was first starting out, maybe when I was in college I got in a bit of trouble, maybe I had to claw my way into the rakeback industry and to do so I bent some rules (something the owner of AlwaysBluff recently told me he thinks is the only way one could get in at this point)...maybe all of that is true. But it was over a year ago. People change. I've changed. I'm now one of the leaders of the industry (The Super Affiliate Union, Torrent Marketing, Rake Aid Rakeback, Cash Game Poker Tour, Poker Giveaways, Poker News Media and many more, are all led, owned or directed by me). I go to Affiliate Conventions now and they treat me like royalty when I tell them how much business I do. I have private meetings with site owners and guest passes to VIP parties with open bars. Things have changed. I am fully trusted for tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a regular basis, and to anybody who has any [censored] weight or clue whatsoever in this industry, I am an upstanding and desirable person to work with. If you don't like me, well, you are now one of the people who I will now and forever refer to simply as, haters. I'm sitting here contemplating fake names and all of this BS, because of like 9 people really. Jesus. What an idiot. STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, in any business. Some people are gonna hate. Well. This is what I'm going to do next time I think about the haters, I'm going to come back to this blog post and read it (because its the best one I have ever written) and then play this video. And it will all be ok. [/ QUOTE ] he also im'd me and asked me if he could pay me $5/1000 unique visitors to his page if he could recreate all my posts on a separate website. I think he's trying to buy up peoples posts (as apparently they own the posts, not 2+2) and make money off of it. here are some websites he sent me http://www.twoplustwoarchive.com/ http://www.twoplustwosucks.com/ http://www.twoplustwoforums.com/ |
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also i did not know blueman was degen until the atf thread. i then im'd degen about it, he told me a little bit about this then spammed travel. i immediately banned and deleted. i'm not sure how much info he gives me will be useful but all this is just an fyi.
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Someone tell Degen that I will delete every one of his posts on this site if he does not disappear.
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psuprabs03: mat just told me to tell you that he will delete every one of your posts on this site if you do not disappear
mclgaucho: ok mclgaucho: im gone |
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here are some websites he sent me http://www.twoplustwoarchive.com/ http://www.twoplustwosucks.com/ http://www.twoplustwoforums.com/ [/ QUOTE ] First this is terrible 2+2 didn't spend $8 a domain to protect every possible scenario. When I owned Rakerebatereview.com I bought about 50 domains people could use to screw me with. Also if he makes any money off of the sites 2+2 can sue him for several times his actual profit and win as this is at the very least cybersquatting and at the worst blatant copyright infringement. The bottom site states "I'd sell this domain for $5,000,000 imo". This makes this an obvious cybersquat whether he is kidding or not. 2+2 needs to go to ICANN immediately and file a complaint and spend a few hundred dollars on domains to protect themselves from headaches like this. I went through this hassle with some retards that completely stole my idea and site scraped RRR word for word. It's a headache but ultimately you will win. I just filed the complaint and they backed down and transfered me the domain after realizing it would cost them money and they could not win. |
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ugh. i'm not sure i even understand what's going on anymore. he's a copy of our chat transcript.
psuprabs03: mat just told me to tell you that he will delete every one of your posts on this site if you do not disappear mclgaucho: ok mclgaucho: im gone mclgaucho: lol psuprabs03: what mclgaucho: sec mclgaucho: [censored] i think i just broke my server lol mclgaucho: let me see if this worked... mclgaucho: tell mat sklansky i want to call him mclgaucho: but i lost his phone number mclgaucho: actually mclgaucho: he banned it.... psuprabs03: banned what? mclgaucho: ok they can delete all of my 2+2 posts now mclgaucho: i saved the thailand thread mclgaucho: tell them to go for it mclgaucho: [censored] ya mclgaucho: lets rock doggie mclgaucho: they should give me mod forum access right now mclgaucho: temporarily mclgaucho: so i can talk to them about this mclgaucho: i will tell them everything mclgaucho: all of my domains mclgaucho: all of it mclgaucho: and you know what, they can have it all too mclgaucho: i just want to have the chance to pitch mason mclgaucho: and have him listen mclgaucho: thats it mclgaucho: nothing more |
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lol that dude sucks so bad
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Does he still own Rakeaid?
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im not sure we didnt talk after that last part i quoted.
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Wait, is any of that true? Did Degen really try to buy 2+2 publishing? Also, Mat, you should be talking to your lawyers regarding the sites he's setting up. Everything Poker Addict said is 100 percent correct.
Edit: Also, his IM conversation reads like someone who's high on cocaine. |
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Does he still own Rakeaid? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I've seen him post in the Cardrunners forum, they've got a membership-rakeback deal with Rakeaid/Degen. |
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Also, in addition to copyright issues, this you also have a very strong trademark dilution/infringement case.
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/me feels smug
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Oh, by the way, I just banned another degen account: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpr...part=1&vc=1
Yeah, it was out of forum, I just wanted to ban him quickly since none of the ATF mods had noticed him yet, and the ban is just pending review by ATF mods. |
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he seems like a egomaniac
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he seems like a egomaniac [/ QUOTE ] Also maybe manic depressive or something (being high on drugs right now might explain it too). He really seems like he thinks he has this great idea, and if he could just explain it to Mason and Mat, they'd be like "Oh yeah, despite the fact that your'e a proven liar and degenerate scumbag whom we dislike so much that we've banned you from even posting on our website, your business model seems like a great idea, lets start a partnership!" |
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mclgaucho went away at 11:15:33 PM.
mclgaucho returned at 11:25:44 PM. mclgaucho: heh mclgaucho: i just had a new account mclgaucho: and i think thats a perfect way to sign off mclgaucho: tell mat sklansky to leave my posts mclgaucho: under The Real Degen mclgaucho: and i wont post again mclgaucho: for a month mclgaucho: he has my word mclgaucho: unless they unban me psuprabs03: what mclgaucho: i just posted mclgaucho: in ATF mclgaucho: tell them not to delete what i wrote mclgaucho: and dont move the threads or lock them psuprabs03: u already got banned mclgaucho: and i wont post any more mclgaucho: ya mclgaucho: fine mclgaucho: but dont delete mclgaucho: or lock mclgaucho: or anything mclgaucho: leave my posts mclgaucho: and im done mclgaucho: i said my piece mclgaucho: at this point mclgaucho: if i dont get unbanned mclgaucho: then 2+2 is a joke mclgaucho: and i dont give a [censored] mclgaucho: i think they should unban me and hire me as the Marketing Director of 2+2 but whatever, they are high on crack....so that wont happen, but if they had any brain at all, thats what would happen |
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mclgaucho: i think they should unban me and hire me as the Marketing Director of 2+2 but whatever, they are high on crack....so that wont happen, but if they had any brain at all, thats what would happen [/ QUOTE ] Lol, he is so full of himself. You really should have asked him what drugs he currently is on, just out of curiosity. |
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mat,
Erase this clown. All of his posts under every account. He has basically declared war on 2p2 and we should pretend he never existed. |
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mat, Erase this clown. All of his posts under every account. He has basically declared war on 2p2 and we should pretend he never existed. [/ QUOTE ] I concur. |
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BTW I meant to add this to my first post. The sucks.com site is protected by free speech as long as he does not try to use it for profit. The courts have ruled sucks.com and other sites that speak their opinion about a company and uses a related domain fall under fair use if they are only used to speak out against the company, made clear not to be commercial and it is clear the site is not endorsed by the trademark holder.
This would be a unique case however since one of the other related sites he owns has tried to cybersquat 2+2 on it's index page. Also the fact his other site domains appear to exist solely to confuse people likely tosses the fair use of the sucks.com out the window. Like Jman says you need to be on the phone to your attorney on Monday and get a cease and desist letter. Even if you don't know where he is it has a Yahoo DNS. The domains however are registered out of the US (Australia) which could make this a bit of a headache if he really wants it to be. He used the same registrar the guy that tried to screw me used and they worked with me and threatened to suspend the scumbag's domains while it went to ICANN which is part of why he gave up. Hopefully if it gets that far they will be as helpful with you too. Also like I mentioned earlier research any domain that might be typed in by accident or would be related and pick it up. By running a whois I see 2+2 doesn't even own the .net/org/us extentions of twoplustwo. |
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mat, Erase this clown. All of his posts under every account. He has basically declared war on 2p2 and we should pretend he never existed. [/ QUOTE ] yup, he is a retard |
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My best guess, as his most recent IP checks have turned up in the Netherlands or wherever, is that he's resumed his coke habit, as it's apparently really frowned upon/dangerous in Thailand. That would explain his freakish, manic behavior about all of this, and make me feel better that coke isn't among the short list of vices that makes me the trainwreck that I am.
NT!, that and forum differences aside I think we would have a really fun time hanging out together. We'd definitely go down fighting, be it among us or people that deserve it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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tuq,
i dunno, ask mat about it, he has had beers with both of us i wouldn't want to fight me imo |
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tuq, i dunno, ask mat about it, he has had beers with both of us i wouldn't want to fight me imo [/ QUOTE ] bah. Your a big Teddy Bear, Killa says so. Speaking of Killa - where is he? |
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i dunno about killa, i would assume he is involved in some family crap for thanksgiving
regardless of my plush, cuddly exterior, i am a straight killer yo |
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is he already ip banned? i would assume so but he travels a lot. i agree with just trashing every one of his posts.
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ok i feel like this is pretty serious.
so after our last convo i went out to the bars and just got home came back to this convo: mclgaucho: i'm going to start paying people for accts mclgaucho: pay people to post mclgaucho: i would buy your acct right now for 10k psuprabs03: lol mclgaucho: seriously...i would buy any mods acct for 10k psuprabs03: wtf mclgaucho: no joke ship acct i ship 10k psuprabs03: lol im not giving u my account psuprabs03: u know im going to tell mat what ur doing right mclgaucho: whatever he cant do anything anyways |
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should i stop communication with him altogether? for some reason he feels like he can talk to me freely, and im starting to think it's because he wants me to post what he's doing in the mod forum.
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mat,
i'm looking to buy a house. do i have permission to sell my account for $10k? |
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from this thread it seems hes ban on site so I banned another of his accounts http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/ad...mp;returntab=1
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Cannot believe anybody is taking this tard the least bit seriously.
I could really use 10K, I'll sell my account, then make a new one, then ban the old one. Credit debt = gonzo!! |
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