FTP hand history w/ all cards
 

so last night i was playing some cash games and lost a little money so i wanted to look over the hand histories. I dont have PT on this computer so i emailed FTP asking for my last 500 HHs. this morning i wake up and read an email that says they shipped me my last 1000. I just opened the email and looked at it for about 10 secs and im 95% sure they have sent me the HHs with everyones cards exposed. Its really hard to read because there is no spacing but i think im going to look over it and see what i can find.

2 Questions:

a- is this a big deal?

b-is this standard?

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correction- im 100% sure i have all the hands for each player. Also, it sounds like im not the only one this has happend too

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A- Yes
B - No

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Delete this thread and e-mail full tilt asking for $500,000 to be placed in your full tilt account unless you will leak this to the public.

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Post the HHs (full) or this isnt true

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He posted these on FCP.



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FullTiltPoker Game #4195169243: Table Obsidian (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:01:38 ET - 2007/11/16

Seat 1: You Dont See Me ($59.20)
Seat 2: inTR4NCE ($49.75)
Seat 3: Gary212121 ($27.85)
Seat 4: KTU1985 ($49.25)
Seat 5: BraveOne ($48.15)
Seat 6: SoCalQuest ($56.65)
BraveOne posts the small blind of $0.25
SoCalQuest posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to You Dont See Me [9s 9h]
Dealt to inTR4NCE [Ac Kd]
Dealt to Gary212121 [2c 9d]
Dealt to KTU1985 [Qs 6d]
Dealt to BraveOne [7s As]
Dealt to SoCalQuest [Jc Td]
You Dont See Me raises to $1.75
inTR4NCE raises to $5
Gary212121 folds
KTU1985 folds
BraveOne folds
SoCalQuest folds
You Dont See Me calls $3.25
*** FLOP *** [5c 8c Ks]
You Dont See Me has 15 seconds left to act
You Dont See Me checks
inTR4NCE bets $8
You Dont See Me has 15 seconds left to act
You Dont See Me folds
Uncalled bet of $8 returned to inTR4NCE
inTR4NCE mucks
inTR4NCE wins the pot ($10.25)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.75 | Rake $0.50
Board: [5c 8c Ks]
Seat 1: You Dont See Me folded on the Flop
Seat 2: inTR4NCE collected ($10.25)
Seat 3: Gary212121 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: KTU1985 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: BraveOne (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SoCalQuest (big blind) folded before the Flop


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FullTiltPoker Game #4195169963: Table Redondo (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:01:43 ET - 2007/11/16

Seat 1: Yoshikuni ($49.50)
Seat 2: Bluffmoreplz ($64.30)
Seat 4: ka2034 ($50)
Seat 5: d0zer4lyf ($52.75)
Seat 6: TheChipsMaster ($49.75)
Yoshikuni posts the small blind of $0.25
Bluffmoreplz posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Yoshikuni [Jd Jc]
Dealt to Bluffmoreplz [2c Ad]
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ka2034 [Kh 4d]
Dealt to d0zer4lyf [Jh 8d]
Dealt to TheChipsMaster [9d 5s]
ka2034 folds
d0zer4lyf folds
TheChipsMaster folds
Yoshikuni raises to $1.50
Bluffmoreplz folds
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to Yoshikuni
Yoshikuni mucks
Yoshikuni wins the pot ($1)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Yoshikuni (small blind) collected ($1)
Seat 2: Bluffmoreplz (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Gary212121 is sitting out
Seat 4: ka2034 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: d0zer4lyf didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: TheChipsMaster (button) didn't bet (folded)


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FullTiltPoker Game #4195172247: Table Alina (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:02:01 ET - 2007/11/16

Seat 1: safehands73 ($49.50)
Seat 2: beachcity11 ($58.85)
Seat 3: Hence ($14.40)
Seat 4: il Romano ($190.30)
Seat 5: Gary212121 ($41.80)
Seat 6: starchyyy ($65.85)
safehands73 posts the small blind of $0.25
beachcity11 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to safehands73 [4s 6h]
Dealt to beachcity11 [Td 8d]
Dealt to Hence [3s 8c]
Dealt to il Romano [2d Tc]
Dealt to Gary212121 [Kh 6s]
Dealt to starchyyy [Ts 2h]
Hence folds
il Romano folds
Gary212121 folds
starchyyy folds
safehands73 folds
Uncalled bet of $0.25 returned to be

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FullTiltPoker Game #4187207525: Table Lusso (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:50:37 ET - 2007/11/15

Seat 1: cdw1323 ($117.25)
Seat 2: dblizz ($31.40)
Seat 3: Eewga - Booga ($83.45)
Seat 4: GICUP ($43.70)
Seat 5: Gary212121 ($79.60)
Seat 6: Dr Philgrave ($29.80)
Gary212121 has 5 seconds left to act
Gary212121 posts the small blind of $0.25
Dr Philgrave posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cdw1323 [Tc Jd]
Dealt to dblizz [6d 2s]
Dealt to Eewga - Booga [3c 6s]
Dealt to GICUP [8s 8c]
Dealt to Gary212121 [5c Ts]
Dealt to Dr Philgrave [Qs Js]
cdw1323 folds
dblizz folds
Eewga - Booga folds
GICUP calls $0.50
Gary212121 folds
Dr Philgrave raises to $1.75
GICUP raises to $5.50
Dr Philgrave calls $3.75
*** FLOP *** [4d Ah Kc]
Dr Philgrave checks
GICUP bets $11.25
Dr Philgrave folds
Uncalled bet of $11.25 returned to GICUP
GICUP mucks
GICUP wins the pot ($10.70)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.25 | Rake $0.55
Board: [4d Ah Kc]
Seat 1: cdw1323 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: dblizz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Eewga - Booga didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: GICUP (button) collected ($10.70)
Seat 5: Gary212121 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Dr Philgrave (big blind) folded on the Flop

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haha sweet

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Wow... Instead of training the homeless to play poker, snowbank should train them to work in CS.

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WOW wtf, can we get an explanation for this?

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send the histories to Nat and he'll check for ip addy's from Costa Rica

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WOW wtf, can we get an explanation for this?

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Ask Full Tilt. I dunno.

The fact that these sheets exist seems bad enough, but the fact that they can and are making their way out from behind the closed doors of the poker sites and into the public is just horrible for the image of the poker sites.

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Does this mean that there's a superuser account for FTP?

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i'm pretty sick to my stomach atm

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Post the HHs (full) or this isnt true

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lol.. i could if needed. but im not the only one that has received HHs w/ all the cards. So for some reason i dont want to just throw them out there. PM if you 100% need to see them to believe it, but im telling you for a fact i have HHs w/ all the cards

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This really looks like a hoax to me. Its exactly the same thing that happened at absolute and the OP is some random.

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Post the HHs (full) or this isnt true

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lol.. i could if needed. but im not the only one that has received HHs w/ all the cards. So for some reason i dont want to just throw them out there. PM if you 100% need to see them to believe it, but im telling you for a fact i have HHs w/ all the cards

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who else received these?

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This explains why I can't beat JAYDEN21

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its not... you are right though, im just a random/lurker.

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if they could only email you the cards BEFORE the hand takes place...

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I dont see why this is such a big deal?

Obviously ftp has the ability to see all the hole cards after the hand is over, some support guy just made a stupid mistake and send the wrong version of HHs.

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This explains why I can't beat JAYDEN21 at 100/200 after smashing him all night at 25/50 and 50/100 AGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAG

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FYP

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From midstakes thread, another poster:

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Also, FTP has been sending out HH's today with everyone's hole cards. Let the drama ensue.

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you can't just post that...further explanation plz

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Friend of mine requested hands this morning, got a file with everyone's hole cards. (last 1000 hands). We posted on FCP in the general thread there, and another guy had already posted the same thing happened to him this morning.

I promptly requested the last 1000 hands I played because obviously this is gold, and then fired off a few posts making it public so it would get shut down immed because the last thing I want is anyone seeing my hole cards...

Mark

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well like my previous post stated, im a lurker here. I normally post on FTP and troymac (i dunno his 2+2 name) said he received the same file w/ all the cards yesterday.

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if they could only email you the cards BEFORE the hand takes place...

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very true... ill email support and ask [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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From midstakes thread, another poster:

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Also, FTP has been sending out HH's today with everyone's hole cards. Let the drama ensue.

Mark

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you can't just post that...further explanation plz

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Friend of mine requested hands this morning, got a file with everyone's hole cards. (last 1000 hands). We posted on FCP in the general thread there, and another guy had already posted the same thing happened to him this morning.

I promptly requested the last 1000 hands I played because obviously this is gold, and then fired off a few posts making it public so it would get shut down immed because the last thing I want is anyone seeing my hole cards...

Mark

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i am the "other guy" in that post. the poster is NoSup4u

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I dont see why this is such a big deal?

Obviously ftp has the ability to see all the hole cards after the hand is over, some support guy just made a stupid mistake and send the wrong version of HHs.

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If you've been following the AP scandal, they said that they didn't have this information in order to claim that it was impossible for there to be a superuser on the inside. This obviously turned out to be a lie, so it was a big deal when people found out they were lying. Full tilt has never claimed not to have this information because its information they SHOULD have.
People who think this would be a big deal if it had actually happened don't understand the AP scandal. Full tilt or any other poker site absolutely should and almost certainly does have this information internally available. This is in no way evidence that full tilt has or is particularly vulnerable to superusers. Also, I'd take 5 : 1 that this didn't actually happen.

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Also, just to make it known, this really means nothing to me. I rarely ever play cash games so it has little effect on me. The reason i posted it was to let cash game players know and obv. to start a super thread on 2+2 b.c. thats been my dream since i was a little boy

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As an IT guy/poker player, I can guarantee you all hand history requests are automated. There is no "guy" sending these emails. If such a problem exist(ed/s), it would be systemic and likely to effect large numbers of people for a short period of time until detected.

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Also, I'd take 5 : 1 that this didn't actually happen.

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that what didnt happen? that these HHs are forged?

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Also, I'd take 5 : 1 that this didn't actually happen.

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that what didnt happen? that these HHs are forged?

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yah

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and obv. to start a super thread on 2+2 b.c. thats been my dream since i was a little boy

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Ive been on here for 2 years and i still havent achieved this [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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this isn't a big deal, you guys didn't think the sites had hh with everyone's cards? how do you think they do investigations into collusion? just a simple mistake by FTP support.

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Also, I'd take 5 : 1 that this didn't actually happen.

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that what didnt happen? that these HHs are forged?

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yah

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so you mean you'd lay 5:1? your $500 to my $100?

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wow support needs to stop hiring mexicans

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Also, I'd take 5 : 1 that this didn't actually happen.

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that what didnt happen? that these HHs are forged?

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yah

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so you mean you'd lay 5:1? your $500 to my $100?

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if you actually want to take the bet that makes me think you know something i don't, but yah that was what i initially meant to say. i'm not actually taking the bet.

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no i dont know anything thats why i offered to bet so small just to degen it up lol

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no i dont know anything thats why i offered to bet so small just to degen it up lol

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ok fair point, if you were gonna hustle me you'd prob try for more than 500 bucks. my only hesitation is that it may be hard to verify. consider a push if we're not convinced one way or the other? if we can't agree put it up to a poll?

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lmao, giving 5:1 against a poker site having stupid cs or a system error that mistakenly sent out hhs showing all hole cards, brilliant.

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lmao, giving 5:1 against a poker site having stupid cs or a system error that mistakenly sent out hhs showing all hole cards, brilliant.

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i'm not betting against the possibility of it having happened or happening at some point in the future, i'm betting that the OP is full of [censored]