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Jack of Arcades 10-20-2006 05:56 PM

Friend busted for child porn, wtf?
 
story here

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A Lafayette man was jailed Wednesday on a child pornography charge. 20-year-old Nicholas Baudoin was arrested by university police on ten counts of pornography involving a juvenile.

According to UL Lafayette, the university received an anonymous tip about Baudoin.

Campus police did an investigation, got a warrant and arrested him at his off-campus apartment.

The investigation is on-going and will likely be turned over to the district attorney's office soon.

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You think you know a guy...

What's the weirdest [censored] a friend of yours got arrested for?:

A S U 10-20-2006 05:57 PM

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Peeing on a Cop's horse.

Sponger. 10-20-2006 05:58 PM

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Innocent until proven guilty? jk

Yeti 10-20-2006 06:01 PM

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jack,

a decent guy i know left to go work in australia last summer. he was supposed to be back last xmas, still no sign of him. recently i heard he got busted for child porn just before he was due to leave and is in jail.

crazy world.

JasonK 10-20-2006 06:03 PM

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story here

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A Lafayette man was jailed Wednesday on a child pornography charge. 20-year-old Nicholas Baudoin was arrested by university police on ten counts of pornography involving a juvenile.

According to UL Lafayette, the university received an anonymous tip about Baudoin.

Campus police did an investigation, got a warrant and arrested him at his off-campus apartment.

The investigation is on-going and will likely be turned over to the district attorney's office soon.

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You think you know a guy...

What's the weirdest [censored] a friend of yours got arrested for?:

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So were you the anonymous tipster?

Sooga 10-20-2006 06:09 PM

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Arcadia police Thursday arrested Phillip Sutliff, 34, of Azusa, on a warrant listing 24 counts of oral copulation, sodomy with a person under 18, penetration by a foreign object, and unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, the Pasadena Star-News reported. He was being held in lieu of $1.16 million bail.

That was a fellow teacher on our campus, news of that broke yesterday. He was under investigation for the past couple of weeks, but I guess now it's official.

By-Tor 10-20-2006 06:12 PM

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will you be able to recover his pictures of you once the trial ends???

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private joker 10-20-2006 06:14 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

7ontheline 10-20-2006 06:15 PM

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Wouldn't it depend on the age of this guy's "child" porn? He's 20. I wouldn't consider him a pervert for looking at pictures of naked 15 year-olds. 12 year olds, well, not so good. 6 year-olds, uh. . .

Edit: Damn you joker, beat me to it.

BWebb 10-20-2006 06:16 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

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Just to be safe I think you should clean your hard drive and get a new computer. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Freerollin` 10-20-2006 06:24 PM

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Dude from a realty company my parents work with got caught in a Dateline-like child porn sting.

He didn't tell anyone about it but kept taking vacation days (which everyone soon learned wss for court appearances). Then he didn't show up for work for a while. He was found in a seedy motel where he had put a bullet in his head.

Matt Williams 10-20-2006 06:33 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

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I know in NJ there has to be a 4 year age difference for it to be unlawful.

mason55 10-20-2006 06:46 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

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I know in NJ there has to be a 4 year age difference for it to be unlawful.

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I believe that's for sex. For posessing images it doesn't matter the age difference, the images are illegal if the person is under 18.

Dids 10-20-2006 06:49 PM

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I love that charges like "sodomy with a person under 18" on top of all the other things that aren't legal about a 34 year old nailing somebody under 18.

tuq 10-20-2006 06:53 PM

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story here

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A Lafayette man was jailed Wednesday on a child pornography charge. 20-year-old Nicholas Baudoin was arrested by university police on ten counts of pornography involving a juvenile.

According to UL Lafayette, the university received an anonymous tip about Baudoin.

Campus police did an investigation, got a warrant and arrested him at his off-campus apartment.

The investigation is on-going and will likely be turned over to the district attorney's office soon.

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Did you get to see any of the good stuff?

Also, speaking of crimes, whatever happened with the person found dead in your pool?

Jack of Arcades 10-20-2006 06:53 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

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Well, in Louisiana, 17 is legal.

Plus, there's a qualifier - they have to be erotic in nature. I believe just naked pictures aren't covered. So, like, pictures of a 6 year old girl in the bath tub aren't considered pornography.

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It is forbidden to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with the intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that

* depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or

* depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in graphic bestiality, sadistic or masochistic abuse, or sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex, and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

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This is likely hardcore stuff.

Jack of Arcades 10-20-2006 06:54 PM

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I believe the "dead guy in my pool" was ruled accidental drowning, but the mom of the guy was pushing for a murder investigation of his friend.

muddy mudskipper 10-20-2006 07:17 PM

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i would love to sit in on the legislators discussing these laws and drafting up the legal stuff. all these 50 year old lawyers and congressmen sitting around a document...
"do we want to use 'foreign object'?"
"whats that word that covers anal stuff and regular stuff... 'sodomizing'--that's it."
"so is a finger in the butthole illegal, too? we need to make this thing iron-clad."

Madtown 10-20-2006 08:06 PM

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He wasn't a friend (pretty much all of us in HS considered him most likely to shoot up the school -- in a rural town of ~2k, there aren't a lot of candidate, but he was one for sure), but I was on the cross country team with him for 3 years or so and he was in my graduating class. Heard a couple years back that he got arrested here in Madison along with another guy for going through one of the grad student resident areas (primarily Asian and other minority students), pounding on doors, making threats, yelling racial slurs. He was apparently big into white pride stuff.

Not surprising, since I always figured he was batshit crazy.

Oh, and a girl from my graduating class in HS did a pretty good one. She and I were never really friends but we were at least semi-nice to one another, she got into a fair amount of trouble in HS, all standard slacker stuff. Couple years later, she faked that she had cancer, got the town and the hospital she worked for here in Madison to raise about $24k, then took off to Texas for "treatment."

kyleb 10-20-2006 08:09 PM

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Oh, and a girl from my graduating class in HS did a pretty good one. She and I were never really friends but we were at least semi-nice to one another, she got into a fair amount of trouble in HS, all standard slacker stuff. Couple years later, she faked that she had cancer, got the town and the hospital she worked for here in Madison to about $24k, then took off to Texas for "treatment."

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Very nice!

Mitch Evans 10-20-2006 10:01 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

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I know in NJ there has to be a 4 year age difference for it to be unlawful.

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I believe that's for sex. For posessing images it doesn't matter the age difference, the images are illegal if the person is under 18.

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So, what you're saying is if a 19yo had sex with a 17yo that would be legal because it's less than 4 years, but if he possessed naked pictures of her instead that would be illegal?

gilbert 10-20-2006 10:12 PM

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Dude from a realty company my parents work with got caught in a Dateline-like child porn sting.

He didn't tell anyone about it but kept taking vacation days (which everyone soon learned wss for court appearances). Then he didn't show up for work for a while. He was found in a seedy motel where he had put a bullet in his head.

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i love that show

WordWhiz 10-20-2006 10:14 PM

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What constitutes child porn, by the way? Say an 18 year-old is dating a 17 year-old, and she sends him some racy photos of herself naked. Because he now possesses naked pics of a minor, is he engaging in child pornography? If he takes the pictures of her, is that kiddie porn? But he could be like 5 months older than her... I dunno, maybe it's 13 or younger?

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I know in NJ there has to be a 4 year age difference for it to be unlawful.

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I believe that's for sex. For posessing images it doesn't matter the age difference, the images are illegal if the person is under 18.

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So, what you're saying is if a 19yo had sex with a 17yo that would be legal because it's less than 4 years, but if he possessed naked pictures of her instead that would be illegal?

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Yes. Such things have actually happened too.

ligastar 10-20-2006 10:23 PM

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Dude from a realty company my parents work with got caught in a Dateline-like child porn sting.

He didn't tell anyone about it but kept taking vacation days (which everyone soon learned wss for court appearances). Then he didn't show up for work for a while. He was found in a seedy motel where he had put a bullet in his head.

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i love that show

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Tune into USA Networks...they are in the last 30 minutes of a 2 hour show with all new footage.

cab4656 10-20-2006 11:01 PM

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He never got arrested for it, but a friend of mine once took a piss in the middle of my street in the middle of the day. We had just come back from partying a couple hours away and he was still totally drunk. Neighbor lady (who thankfully I always hated) was standing right at the end of her driveway across the street on a cordless phone calling in our license plate numbers as I'm asking my friend what the hell he's doing.

We took off to get some food, when we came back another neighbor tells us the cops were here. The next two days the cops came to my house to question me. He never got a ticket or anything, but it could've been pretty serious, as public urination results in sex offender status here.

LuckOfTheDraw 10-20-2006 11:45 PM

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Completely off topic here, but I grew up in California where the age of sexual consent is 18. I knew there was some states that had lower ages, but I thought 18 was pretty much the norm. I just looked it up and am amazed by how many states have 16 as the age of sexual consent. Seems a little young to me. But, maybe just cuz I grew up with it at 18.

WhoIam 10-21-2006 12:00 AM

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He never got arrested for it, but a friend of mine once took a piss in the middle of my street in the middle of the day. We had just come back from partying a couple hours away and he was still totally drunk. Neighbor lady (who thankfully I always hated) was standing right at the end of her driveway across the street on a cordless phone calling in our license plate numbers as I'm asking my friend what the hell he's doing.


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This would have been awesome if your friend was 17 and the lady took a picture of him urinating and got busted when she showed it to the police.

HollywoodDB 10-21-2006 01:02 AM

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Well he wasnt't a friend or anything, but when I was 14 or so, I worked as a dishwasher in a local retaurant. A cook that worked there, a really quiet, loner type, kidnapped a lady and cut her feet off. It was really freaky that the "weird guy", really was the "weird guy".

multious 10-21-2006 06:49 PM

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my friend was arrested for challenging a police officer to a game of goldeneye. The cop was being a dick and my friend said "You're pretty tough with your gun. I bet i could own you at Goldeneye". The cop was not amused and asked him if he wanted to be a tough guy because the cop would put him on the ground in a second. My friend said "Slappers only" and slapped the cop across the face.

In my friend's defense, the cop and his partner were being incredible [censored] and had just given him a ticket for drinking in public when he was drinking a bottle of water. They slapped it out of his hand when he offered it to them to prove it wasnt vodka. He was really drunk and they were being unproffessional douche bags. Because of the way they handled the situation so poorly, he ended up with only a ticket for public intoxication despite being arrested for assaulting a police officer. Hold on im going to try and find a link to the news paper article.

AH the web links are gone but i still have a scanned copy of one.

http://photos-319.ak.facebook.com/ip..._6319_6436.jpg

EricW 10-21-2006 06:53 PM

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Jesus, a year ago, my bball coach from elementary school (at the time he was caught, he was still teaching at the same school) was arrested for child porn. The porn was apparently of little kids and he said it's not hurting anyone because they were all from Russia [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Just recently, a 35 year old guy who used to coach my high school bball was arrested for child porn. At the time of arrest, he was promoted to athletic director at a rival highschool just blocks away from my old high school.

It's weird because he was a really, really cool guy and EVERYONE liked him. There weren't any details on how old the people were in the porn pics though but either way, it's still weird.

The Stranger 10-21-2006 06:57 PM

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Completely off topic here, but I grew up in California where the age of sexual consent is 18. I knew there was some states that had lower ages, but I thought 18 was pretty much the norm. I just looked it up and am amazed by how many states have 16 as the age of sexual consent. Seems a little young to me. But, maybe just cuz I grew up with it at 18.

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I think the deal with California, is since the porn industry is so big here, the AOC has to be 18, because if the sex is legal, its going to be filmed.

jaffa 10-21-2006 07:38 PM

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A couple who live 4 houses down from me were arrested a few weeks ago for kidnapping a homeless man, imprisonning him in their shed for 4 months, and then murdering him. (i don't know how they murdered him). Link

TheRover 10-21-2006 07:45 PM

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my friend was arrested for challenging a police officer to a game of goldeneye. The cop was being a dick and my friend said "You're pretty tough with your gun. I bet i could own you at Goldeneye". The cop was not amused and asked him if he wanted to be a tough guy because the cop would put him on the ground in a second. My friend said "Slappers only" and slapped the cop across the face.


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gisb0rne 10-21-2006 08:00 PM

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18/17/16 whatever is such an arbitrary age. If some 30 y.o. guy is having consensual sex with a 16 y.o. and in his state it's illegal, yet in the next state over it's legal, what makes it so bad? He just got reamed by a law that nitpicks about someone's age rather than some actual bad thing that occured. If it's so clear what age is right or wrong then why do different states have different ages? Why do different countries have different laws regarding this kind of thing? Murder is obviously bad. "Statutory rape" is not.

Now if we're talking porn of 10 year olds then I think that's a clear crime.

raptor517 10-21-2006 08:03 PM

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one of my buddies, who conveniently is a 2+2er, uprooted a tree and used it to break down someones door. yeah, he got arrested. holla

[Phill] 10-21-2006 10:26 PM

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Slightly older brother of a guy i knew pretty well from school got imprisoned for running a brothel in our relatively quite market town a few months back. I loled.

bigbootch 10-21-2006 10:40 PM

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I will probably be called a nit for this post, but:

Of course the specific age is arbitrary. How else do you write law? You can't write a law book that just says, "Don't do bad stuff," because then everyone will take their own interpretation of what is bad and what is not. You can't just say, "Don't take advantage of young people sexually," because then some dude is going to argue 15 is not too young then some other dude is going to say 14 is not too young and ...

The problem with "fuzzy but reasonable" is that it does NOT work for a whole city/state/country. People will argue about it in unreasonable ways. So you need something explicit for the sake of clarity, even if the exact line might be arbitrary. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this - in fact, anything else would be impractical.

And, the thing is, no one is saying it's "so clear what age is right or wrong" (quoted). Rather, it's clear what age is LEGAL or ILLEGAL. And, that MUST be clear, or else everyone will be arguing different things and you have a huge mess.

Punker 10-21-2006 10:51 PM

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War crimes for the win

Nicholas Ribich faces four charges for allegedly kidnapping Canadian Forces Capt. Patrick Rechner and Capt. Oldrich Zidlik of the Czech Republic on May 26, 1995 during the Bosnia-Herzegovenia conflict...Televised images of Rechner in handcuffs were broadcast around the world in 1995 as NATO planes bombed Serb positions in Bosnia. He was also attached to a lightning rod in the middle of an ammunition dump. It is believed he was held as insurance against further bombing.

Ribich, the 28-year-old Canadian-born son of a Yugoslav-born father, left Canada in 1995, allegedly to join Serb forces in Bosnia.

Austiger 10-22-2006 12:24 AM

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Peeing on a Cop's horse.

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I ran from a cop on a horse one time. I was drunk and ran a light outside a music festival and he came galloping after me and I took off. The traffic was real tight and I kept turning corners and I would see him turn behind me. Scariest [censored] in my life. I had a friend with me who was absolutely losing it in the passenger seat. Got away though. Just made me think of it. Great memory.

I had a friend arrested for murder about 5 years ago. I waited tables with him. He was about 23. Some guy grabbed his girfriend's ass at a bar and he followed him home and beat him senseless with a baseball bat. Guy died in the hospital a few days later. Took them a month to pin it on him. He's doing 30 now.

gisb0rne 10-22-2006 01:09 AM

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And, the thing is, no one is saying it's "so clear what age is right or wrong" (quoted). Rather, it's clear what age is LEGAL or ILLEGAL. And, that MUST be clear, or else everyone will be arguing different things and you have a huge mess.

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The problem is people are saying that. I have no issue with assigning some age to make it a crime. I have an issue with lumping all sex offenders together or all "child" porn together as if what they did was equally bad.


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