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*TT* 11-09-2007 12:40 PM

Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
November 8, 2007
Arizona Issues Warning About Poker Chips
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 9:24 p.m. ET

PHOENIX (AP) -- Arizona health regulators issued a warning Thursday about a popular brand of high-end poker chips that may contain high levels of lead. The warning about Paulson brand chips -- used in many casinos and sold at retail to gamblers -- came a day after ABC affiliate KNXV-TV in Phoenix aired a story about the potential contamination.

''We're bringing this to your attention because of the potential exposure to the most vulnerable population, the children of families that currently have this product in their homes,'' Diane Eckles, head of the Arizona Department of Health Services' environmental health office, wrote in a letter to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. ''There is also a potential for the dealers to expose their families, specifically children, to this lead hazard.''

The television station had 200 of the poker chips tested by a private laboratory, and swabs showed all had levels of surface lead exceeding the EPA limit of 0.06 percent. More than half maxed out the swab's 10 percent limit, which is more than 160 times the federal limit.

More detailed tests in 40 chips for total lead showed that all tested positive, with the lowest having four times the EPA limit and one chip used at a Las Vegas casino containing 45 percent total lead.

Officials with the company that makes and distributes Paulson chips, Gaming Partners International Corp. in Las Vegas, declined to be interviewed by the TV station. Chief Executive Gerard Charlier issued a statement saying it objected to any implication its chips could pose a health hazard when used as designed.

''Although testing has proven the existence of lead in the chips, the mere presence of lead is not sufficient to prove there is a health risk,'' Charlier said in the statement. ''In fact, independent testing has also demonstrated that the simple handling of these chips would not produce any risk of health concerns to the consumer nor to the environment.''

The statement also said the chips have been reformulated and they now only contain trace amounts of lead well below applicable safety standards.

A call seeking comment from Charlier from The Associated Press was not immediately returned Thursday.

Shown the test results, Will Humble, an Arizona health services official who formerly headed the state's lead poisoning prevention program, said he was shocked.

''If you were to take chips like these and spread them out, 1,000 of them on the ground, essentially it would be a federal Superfund site,'' Humble told the TV station. ''That's how much lead is in these things. I've been doing this for many, many years and seldom do we come across products that contain this much lead that are in people's homes.''

cero_z 11-09-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
Holy [censored] this is beyond scary. What I can't tell from reading the report is if chips from other manufacturers are also full of lead. It intuitively seems fairly likely. I'm especially worried about the free set of chips I got from Full Tilt, which my 3-year-old likes to play with from time to time. God [censored] damn it.

Those supposedly have aluminum centers, I think, but I am really worried about this. Beyond that, having been a live player for many years, I've handled so many chips for so long.

This is potentially a massive class-action lawsuit in the making, for everyone who's spent a lot of time in a casino. It sounds like there is already something in place, according to the article. ABC News Report

heater 11-09-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
"If you were to take chips like these and spread them out, 1000 of them on the ground, essentially it would be a federal Superfund site. That's how much lead are in these things. I've been doing this for many, many years and seldom do we run across products that contain this much lead that are in people's homes."

Mr_Mxyztplk 11-09-2007 01:51 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
to stay on the safe side, send me all your Paulson chips.

GSykes 11-09-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
I am doing some lead research send me your chips.

bmwguy525 11-09-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
This whole thing is [censored] retarded. It's just the media trying to dig themselves into controversy. It's been known for a long time that professional weight poker chips contain lead dust.

Here's a quote from one of the leading poker chip manufacturer's in the US:
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Before anyone checks them self into the hospital, there is no danger in handling products containing lead. Lead cannot be absorbed directly through the skin. There are many products in common use that contain lead, example: fishing weights and tire balance weights.

Lead is only a danger if you eat or inhale lead powder. The danger is only in the manufacture of chips not the use.

If you are not eating or snorting Paulson chips, no problem. If you are, you need help. You may have already OD.

[/ QUOTE ]

For more information on the topic that surfaced back in 2005, here's a link to the ChipTalk thread where it was brought up the first time: LINK

Dmadmonks 11-09-2007 02:22 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
children putting lead chips in their mouth is not good, DUCY?

J.A.Sucker 11-09-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
This is clearly over-reactionary for most. If you're not eating/putting the chips in your mouth, then you don't have danger. There's far worse skank/crud on casino chips to be worried about than the lead. All this means is that you shouldn't give chips to your little kids to play with if they will put them in their mouth. This is probably a bad idea anyway, since they are a choking hazard.

Metallic lead is not very toxic, anyway, especially for adults. Lead dust and other lead compounds are what you really need to worry about. However, I think about all the times I used my teeth to close lead split-shot sinkers when fishing as a little kid, and I can't help but wonder if that's why I'm such a demented sicko today...

Scansion 11-09-2007 02:35 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
tl;dr cliffnotes please these chips are the best.

DrNo888 11-09-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
Oh [censored]! My toddler is playing with some custom made Paulson chips. I am sure he put them in his mouth at one time or another. Time to lock them up!

the_dal_kid 11-09-2007 02:59 PM

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The Chip-Making Robots are initiating a take-over!!

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cero_z 11-09-2007 03:17 PM

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Oh [censored]! My toddler is playing with some custom made Paulson chips. I am sure he put them in his mouth at one time or another. Time to lock them up!

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This kind of comment, which has been made a couple of times, is idiotic. Obviously as products containing tons of lead in them get old/get damaged/rub together, lead particles will be loose. That was explored in the abc news vid. I, like others who've played a lot of live poker, tend to handle my chips obsessively while playing. Hopefully, people wash their hands before eating, etc., but obviously the presence of lead dust presents a very real threat for people who are in contact with it for many hours per day. Lead dust can come home on your skin and clothes, too; not just the stray chips you have lying around.

If my comments are missing some important scientific info, someone please correct me, but it's not as simple as "keeping your custom Paulson chips out of your toddler's mouth." What are the odds that other clay chips besides Paulson's contain lead? Are there like 100 different ways that clay chips are made? My gut says probably not.

JJT 11-10-2007 04:54 AM

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Oh [censored]! My toddler is playing with some custom made Paulson chips. I am sure he put them in his mouth at one time or another. Time to lock them up!

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Do you then play your weekly game with these chips that your child has been sucking on?

EasilyFound 11-10-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
My TRKing chips, which I've owned for 10+ years, contain lead. My Blue Chip Co. chips do not. Nor do my plastic faux clay chips. I tested each this morning with a lead testing kit.

My only real concern about lead in chips is that I like to riffle my chips while playing, and I have a stack of chips by my computer that I riffle while on line. If you are someone who likes to riffle chips, and use chips with lead, I imagine that riffling chips will release some kind of particles into the air. How much of a health hazard it is, I don't know.

But I guess all things being equal, why play with chips manufactured with lead? Especially if you do have children at home.

tikipirate 11-10-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
This just in, you shouldn't be licking your poker chips...and washing your hands before you eat is a +EV move...glad the AP is here to tell me these things.

todd1007 11-10-2007 02:34 PM

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to stay on the safe side, send me all your Paulson chips.

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A+++++++++++++++++++++

Joe Tall 11-10-2007 02:42 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
Stop putting them in your mouth, LDO.

Bluegrass Poker 11-12-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
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"If you were to take chips like these and spread them out, 1000 of them on the ground, essentially it would be a federal Superfund site. That's how much lead are in these things. I've been doing this for many, many years and seldom do we run across products that contain this much lead that are in people's homes."

[/ QUOTE ]Just further proof that the federal government is way too damn big. I just hope the EPA doesn't declare every casino in Vegas a Superfund site before I make my trip in January. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

*TT* 11-12-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Paulson Chips contain toxic levels of lead - Associated Press
 
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Stop putting them in your mouth, LDO.

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make sure you hide the chips from Little Tall!


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