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MicroBob 11-26-2007 06:04 PM

Effect of early start-time?
 
Curious if anyone has thoughts about this or has done a study, etc.

Thinking of LSU's lackluster performance in their early-start vs. Tulane a few weeks ago.

This Saturday CMU plays Miami in the MAC championship at 10am local time.

bam1982 11-26-2007 11:53 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
As far as the SEC goes, the only game that had the 12:30 kick that went over the number was Alabama/Tennessee. Every game other than that has gone under as far as I remember.

MicroBob 11-27-2007 01:13 AM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
I had a hunch something like that was possible although a bigger sample-size would be kind of nice.

cato-tonia 11-29-2007 12:49 AM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
hey, you know, i noticed that the moon was cusping over mars the other night, and all the dogs in the PAC-10 won.

anybody got any info on this? have you noticed any dogs winning int the conferences you follow when the moon wanes?

Rustjive 11-29-2007 12:53 AM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
Yeah, Cato, I totally see what you're talking about. Like waking up early basically has 0 effect on living in general, much less football games. And college students pretty much hate sleeping anyways, so I can't see how it might possibly have an effect either.

MicroBob 11-29-2007 01:00 AM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
I've talked to athletes who have participated in early-start games who have admitted, "yeah, i was pretty much still waking up."

I think it would be difficult for many people to have the same intensity at 11am that they can get at 8pm.
It also would not surprise me if home-field advantage were diminished somewhat on such games since crowds tend to be less enthusiastic/noisy.

This really isn't that crazy a theory.

NajdorfDefense 11-29-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
March Madness the early start times for WC teams that go east and play at noon or super-late ones [compared to EST] for the reverse definitely affect the game and scores.

All the WC teams that had noon starts v Temple, or UNC going out west and losing to Weber's The Show in Seattle, 7-10 3s in 2nd half didn't hurt, LDO.

Rustjive 11-29-2007 01:42 AM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
Sorry, MicroBob, I forgot to add [/sarcasm].

Like you, I wish we had more on this angle. Unlike cato-tonia, I'm not an [censored].

cato-tonia 11-29-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
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Sorry, MicroBob, I forgot to add [/sarcasm].

Like you, I wish we had more on this angle. Unlike cato-tonia, I'm not an [censored].

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yeah, you're just a wonderful piece of [censored] alright.

smbruin22 11-29-2007 07:58 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
why's the mac game at 10 am? TV, i guess?

i remember nebraska i think played some 10 am games a number of years ago. or was it 11 am? one or the other.

knicknut 11-29-2007 08:27 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Sorry, MicroBob, I forgot to add [/sarcasm].

Like you, I wish we had more on this angle. Unlike cato-tonia, I'm not an [censored].

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yeah, you're just a wonderful piece of [censored] alright.

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You're the only idiot in this thread, I wouldn't pick fights.

I agree that this could be significant, MB, but I'm afraid that it might happen too infrequently (Bowl Games, bball tournaments) to get statistically significant data. If it's not already incorporated by books.

MicroBob 11-29-2007 08:35 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
I was wrong about the MAC game.
It's at 11am eastern time. Still pretty early though.


Naj's observations on March Madness is different imo.
That includes teams that are traveling a great distance to play in a different time-zone as well as a very different area/atmosphere. But there is some similarity for the western teams who travel to the eastern time-zone and play the early game. 12:15p start-time in Ohio is 9:15am for the time-zone that they just came from.
I remember Miami, Ohio knocking off Arizona and Stoudamire in 95 in the 12:15p game in Dayton. AZ just looked flat and understandably so imo.

But I think it's different when it's JUST an early start-time and not having to travel way out of your time-zone to get there.
Teams that aren't from thousands of miles away and instead are from the same local area such as CMU vs. MIA or LSU vs. TUL.

Big10 football had a bunch of 12p and I think even 11a starts this year...as well as all those 12:30 games in the SEC.

NajdorfDefense 11-30-2007 04:37 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
Miami v FSU was always at noon for years, they had no trouble waking up, altho Def always dominated those games early.

MicroBob 12-01-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Effect of early start-time?
 
CMU/Miami O/U was 63.
The score right now is 7-3 late in the 3rd.
Guess I should have gone with my theory on this one and hammered the under. But I kept looking at all those 45-40 type games CMU had played lately and I got scared. Silly me.


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