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I'm applying for a university in the states, im from sweden so im a international student... i want to study something in the area of economics (marketing/management).

School should have good general reputation
Good undergraduate program
Good master program for further study if i make it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Easy for international students to get into
Warm allround weather around the city, i hate cold winters!

thanks for helping me out!

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You're from Sweden and you don't like cold weather? lol

That's going to cut out a lot of really good programs in the North.

Check out this site for a list:

http://www.graduateshotline.com/study/economics.html

While the ratings are for their grad programs, they all have undergrad programs as well.

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I think private schools will generally be easier for an international student to get into at the undergraduate level. state schools have to pay the piper, so to speak.

at Berkeley, I believe the breakdown was something like 90% from CA, 8% out of state, 2% international.

I think US News is the most heavily relied upon rankings site for general reputations of universities in the US, but don't put too much faith in it.

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wow, isn't like impossible to get into schools like harvard,stanford, MIT ect.... i mean i dont have perfect grades... :S

how do i know which school are private or not??

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If they don't have a state's name in them they're probly private. There are exceptions either way I'd assume but in general if the university doesn't have a state's name in it it's probly private. If your grades warrant it, that is to say if you wouldn't rather go to a finer university, then 'd suggest San Diego State University. Our winters are extremely mild (obviously, it's San Diego) and the business program, particularly the international business program, is very popular. I'm not in it so I can't attest to whether or not it's a well respected program but I know it's a really popular one at SDSU and there are a lot of international students here.

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Go to Tulane.

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So you've restricted to the South, or West Coasts. Good Universities that have a good international following.

My question would be how are your scores? And how are your grades if they aren't perfect?

Top schools in the Western Area are:

USC
Cal-Tech
Cal (kinda cool)
Stanford (also cooler weather)
UCSD
UCLA
UC-Davis
UC-Irvine
UC-SB

All of these schools are tough to get in.

South

UT-Austin
TAMU
Emory
GT
Florida
UT
UGA

These schools are slightly easier to get into, although still challenging. Again if I don't know your gpa/scores, it's going to be hard to tell.

The international thing, I'm a little clueless on. At Cornell (top 20 school) that I went to there was a decent amount of international students. They went into 2 catagories, either extremely rich or extremely smart for the most part.

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a problem here is that "good school" is highly relative (although I don't think anyone can really justify SDSU as having a good reputation [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]).

I'm sure you must have test scores and some idea of how your grades translate into US standards. find a big range of schools that reasonably matches, pick out the ones match your other criteria, and fire off a bunch of apps.

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there is a pretty big gap between some of the schools capone listed. UCI and Cal Tech on the same list?

OP, I think the advice you'll get here is going to be very subjective and may just confuse you more.

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Well, Cal-Tech, Stanford and maybe Cal are much harder to get into then the rest. I won't deny that. Also Emory is definitely harder to get into then most of the other Southern Schools.

To most people the USNEWS thing isn't awful but I wouldn't use it as a bible. Also you don't have to goto the same undergrad and grad program. At alot of schools that is actually looked down upon.

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hows the school at Duke university? and hows the weather in north carolina? does it snow? i mean as long as it doesn't snow during the winter and get freaking cold with minus degree its fine by me:D
i just finished my toefl and still waiting for the result...

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hows the school at Duke university? and hows the weather in north carolina? does it snow? i mean as long as it doesn't snow during the winter and get freaking cold with minus degree its fine by me:D
i just finished my toefl and still waiting for the result...

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The weather in NC is nice, but it does snow occasionally (Raleigh gets 7-8" a year, with sleet and freezing rain being more common than fluffy snow). You should look at the weather channel yearly forecasts for more accurate info on weather in each city.

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hows the school at Duke university? and hows the weather in north carolina? does it snow? i mean as long as it doesn't snow during the winter and get freaking cold with minus degree its fine by me:D
i just finished my toefl and still waiting for the result...

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Weather isn't bad but it is very challenging to get into Duke. You need pretty damn good scores and grades and recs.

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I'm an international student at Florida International University (it's a 42,000 student public university).
If you need any info PM me.

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hows the school at Duke university? and hows the weather in north carolina? does it snow? i mean as long as it doesn't snow during the winter and get freaking cold with minus degree its fine by me:D
i just finished my toefl and still waiting for the result...

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Weather isn't bad but it is very challenging to get into Duke. You need pretty damn good scores and grades and recs.

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it cant be harder than stanford,harvard,yale,MIT, ect right [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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It's close honestly.

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hows the school at Duke university? and hows the weather in north carolina? does it snow? i mean as long as it doesn't snow during the winter and get freaking cold with minus degree its fine by me:D
i just finished my toefl and still waiting for the result...

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Weather isn't bad but it is very challenging to get into Duke. You need pretty damn good scores and grades and recs.

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it cant be harder than stanford,harvard,yale,MIT, ect right [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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duke is up there as one of the harder schools in the US,it would help if we had an idea of your scores and grades. also look at www.collegeboard.com for an overview of schools

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It's close honestly.

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QFT...it's definitely one of the best non-Ivy schools.

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet... but im looking into it... but anymore tips and recommendation is welcomed... any school similar to duke but slightly easier to get into? I'm still looking for a good undergraduate business program!

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FYI: Economic and Business are completely different subjects in the US, and are usually taught by different faculties in different departments.

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http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...udoc_brief.php

these ranking have been debated but are a good starting point

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TBH it sounds like you don't too much idea as to schools in the US. It also sounds like you're not the greatest student, which you probably have to be if you're looking at any of the schools that you would recognise (usually the best schools have the international reputation).

Also I'm not sure about how you've been going at school so far to get into a Uni in Sweden but from what I've read about the US it's a whole thing of being 'well rounded' -- volunteering, extracurriculars etc. It sounds like people do that stuff because they have to rather than because they want to, but I guess that's the game.

But, yeah, learning about all that extra stuff you have to do on top of grades to be competitive came as quite a shock for me since in New Zealand it's done only on grades, and you're pretty much getting in anywhere given you've gained University Entrance.

Oh, and in your conditions you have a problem... "easy to get into for int. students" and "good reputation" nothing which is easy for int. students to get into is going to have a stellar rep.

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TBH it sounds like you don't too much idea as to schools in the US. It also sounds like you're not the greatest student, which you probably have to be if you're looking at any of the schools that you would recognise (usually the best schools have the international reputation).

Also I'm not sure about how you've been going at school so far to get into a Uni in Sweden but from what I've read about the US it's a whole thing of being 'well rounded' -- volunteering, extracurriculars etc. It sounds like people do that stuff because they have to rather than because they want to, but I guess that's the game.

But, yeah, learning about all that extra stuff you have to do on top of grades to be competitive came as quite a shock for me since in New Zealand it's done only on grades, and you're pretty much getting in anywhere given you've gained University Entrance.

Oh, and in your conditions you have a problem... "easy to get into for int. students" and "good reputation" nothing which is easy for int. students to get into is going to have a stellar rep.

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this is spot on, i am a highschool senior from the US and having good test score and grades doesn't cut it at the best. a lot of weight goes into what you have done with extra-curricular activity, community service, just having something that makes you stand out among 10k+ applicants.

you are also completely right about the "part of the game" comment, people do a lot of things they wouldn't do on their own to make themselves appealing to colleges, something of which i a guilty. in short getting into a top school in the US requires good grades, SAT/ACT scores, a good essay(s) and something that makes you look different from all the other applicants (dont talk about poker, it will end badly).

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University of Maryland - College Park... top ranked business program, relatively moderate weather (warm summer, winter isnt too cold), large student body, and overall fun school... plus you'll learn how to avoid getting mugged and raped, what else would you need from a college experience?

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet... but im looking into it... but anymore tips and recommendation is welcomed... any school similar to duke but slightly easier to get into? I'm still looking for a good undergraduate business program!

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many top schools like duke don't have undergrad business programs. This website has a few good schools that you can research:
http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet... but im looking into it... but anymore tips and recommendation is welcomed... any school similar to duke but slightly easier to get into? I'm still looking for a good undergraduate business program!

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UNC chapel hill? They are like 8miles apart and it's a very good school

Also i do have to suggest South Carolina. As a ballpark its about 70F right now (20-23 or something like that Celsius?). There is a really solid business program and a good international rep. It's not easy to get into but not as hard as many of the schools listed so far.

Also i would consider looking at Florida, Florida State and UGA with UGA prob being the hardest i've listed to get into after UNC

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet... but im looking into it... but anymore tips and recommendation is welcomed... any school similar to duke but slightly easier to get into? I'm still looking for a good undergraduate business program!

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UNC chapel hill? They are like 8miles apart and it's a very good school

Also i do have to suggest South Carolina. As a ballpark its about 70F right now (20-23 or something like that Celsius?). There is a really solid business program and a good international rep. It's not easy to get into but not as hard as many of the schools listed so far.

Also i would consider looking at Florida, Florida State and UGA with UGA prob being the hardest i've listed to get into after UNC

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UNC chapel hill is among the if not the hardest schools to get into if you are out of state, they have like 3-5% out of state acceptance iirc

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet

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Wikipedia -- Grade (education)

This will help. It's from Wikipedia, so it's not authoritative, but it's a start. Both the US and Sweden is listed there, so you can at least get an estimate.

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet... but im looking into it... but anymore tips and recommendation is welcomed... any school similar to duke but slightly easier to get into? I'm still looking for a good undergraduate business program!

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UNC chapel hill? They are like 8miles apart and it's a very good school

Also i do have to suggest South Carolina. As a ballpark its about 70F right now (20-23 or something like that Celsius?). There is a really solid business program and a good international rep. It's not easy to get into but not as hard as many of the schools listed so far.

Also i would consider looking at Florida, Florida State and UGA with UGA prob being the hardest i've listed to get into after UNC

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UF is harder to get into than UGA.

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i have not found a method yet on how to convert my grades into american standard yet... but im looking into it... but anymore tips and recommendation is welcomed... any school similar to duke but slightly easier to get into? I'm still looking for a good undergraduate business program!

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UNC chapel hill? They are like 8miles apart and it's a very good school

Also i do have to suggest South Carolina. As a ballpark its about 70F right now (20-23 or something like that Celsius?). There is a really solid business program and a good international rep. It's not easy to get into but not as hard as many of the schools listed so far.

Also i would consider looking at Florida, Florida State and UGA with UGA prob being the hardest i've listed to get into after UNC

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UNC chapel hill is among the if not the hardest schools to get into if you are out of state, they have like 3-5% out of state acceptance iirc

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3-5% ????? Not Even Close

Out of State admissions aren't that bad at UNC-CH. It's Not nearly as hard as getting into an Ivy or other top school. I went to an information sessions and the admissions people implied that a 1350 SAT and a decent GPA would get you in OOS.

I would bet its about 25% acceptance Out of State and about 40-45% In State. It's not a cakewalk, but if you're a strong student, it shouldn't be a problem.

If you're not the best student and you're looking for warm weather I would look into the following:

Southern Methodist University (SMU) in Dallas- Top notch business school, pretty good reputation, not difficult to get in, top-notch connections in the Dallas area

Pepperdine University in Malibu- Not extremely hard to get into, good location, good business program (IIRC)

Tulane University in New Orleans- I think it has an excellent reputation for Finance, good location, good reputation

I'm sure there are others that would work well. Those are just the ones that come to mind right now.

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US is very good imo

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You're from Sweden and you don't like cold weather? lol

That's going to cut out a lot of really good programs in the North.

Check out this site for a list:

http://www.graduateshotline.com/study/economics.html

While the ratings are for their grad programs, they all have undergrad programs as well.

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You know of any ranking for economics, but in Canada? Math would be nice too, since I'm shooting for double major [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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There's some rankings for economics at econphd.net . If memory serves it has international stuff, and if you google for 'math phd rankings', one of the first sites for that has what you're looking for.