Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

This guy has pretty fishy preflop numbers but is relatively nitty postflop, I havent seen him prepared to put much money in the pot without a pretty strong hand.

Ive been super aggro at this table 29/20/4.5,we havent played any big pots together though.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $124.40
UTG: $202
MP: $90
Hero (CO): $557.95
BTN: $65.65
SB: $333.65

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($21) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls $16, BB folds

Turn: ($53) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $25</font>

Raise now/stack off? Call/raise river? Other options?

We are slightly deep, if we raise turn and he pushesare we comfortable calling?

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

I'll raise and stack off here for sure. With how you're playing and him being slightly fishy, he can have straight,smaller flush or trips, all monster to him when he doesnt put you on flush.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

yea i get it in here

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

you're almost never behind here and he'll call with a lot worse. definitely willing to stack off here.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

if you raise you don't fold. there's a pretty narrow range of hands he does beat us with. 77/87 are really the only ones that come to mind. i probably just raise to like 77 and make a smallish bet on the river, hoping to get a call from 9T.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

get it in. the straight came in and any 8 is going to assume that he has outs.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

What im more worried about is maximising value vs his range. If I call the turn my hand looks fairly weak right, and hes going to bet again with his weak hand/straight and more likely call a raise with more worse hands because my line looks pretty FOS.

Overthinking? I think he actually hand reads ok postflop despite being fishy overall.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

call/raise river smallish could work as well.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

i think it's more important to maximize value against his made hands vs his mediocre hands, especially when they can be weaker flushes that could play it fast or an 8x being aggressive etc.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

SSNL: where we make threads about folding flushes

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

ty ikes im not actually wanting to fold this, read the rest of the thread.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

The dude's nitty postflop, and everyone wants to go broke deep on a paired board when we know he doesn't have the nut flush?

I just call here then whatever on the river, get some amount of $$ in but not your stack.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

you call then just call a river lead? gross.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

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SSNL: where we make threads about folding flushes

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It is possible to not fold and to not get your stack in.

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

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you call then just call a river lead? gross.

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Did I say that?

Has nobody ever seen a boat before?

Do you think Villain doesn't see the flush AND the paired board?

Re: Turn the nut flush, he donks, paired board. (200nl)
 

What actually happened was I called the turn bet, he led the river for 50, I raised to $130 and he folded. Not sure what he had, maybe peeled the flop with JT or something.