Who is Right??? Intense Amanda Bynes Argument
 

BobOjedaFan: Amanda Bynes?
Tokyo!!: no
Tokyo!!: she’s like 25
BobOjedaFan: lol
Tokyo!!: too old
Tokyo!!: gross
BobOjedaFan: oh you mean a kids show now
Tokyo!!: yes
Tokyo!!: lol
BobOjedaFan: idk know it
BobOjedaFan: and Amanda Bynes is like 21 at most
Tokyo!!: prop bet?
Tokyo!!: don't look
Tokyo!!: I say > 21
Tokyo!!: $5?
Tokyo!!: answer in 10 seconds
BobOjedaFan: yes
Tokyo!!: or its not valid
Tokyo!!: and I assume you’re looking it up
BobOjedaFan: in
Tokyo!!: ok
BobOjedaFan: yeah ill look no
Tokyo!!: 1986
Tokyo!!: god damn it
BobOjedaFan: pwned!
Tokyo!!: wait
Tokyo!!: she’s 21 now
BobOjedaFan: you said >21
Tokyo!!: she is
BobOjedaFan: I said 21 at most
BobOjedaFan: I win
Tokyo!!: 21 years and 2 months old
Tokyo!!: April 3 1986
Tokyo!!: that’s > 21
BobOjedaFan: that’s obviously not what I meant
Tokyo!!: that’s older than 21!
Tokyo!!: its certainly not younger
BobOjedaFan: you meant 22 ass
BobOjedaFan: fine well call it void
Tokyo!!: no I said she is >21
BobOjedaFan: dick
Tokyo!!: no way omg
BobOjedaFan: I'm not paying you 5 dollars for that
Tokyo!!: you cant welch on that omg
BobOjedaFan: I should be complaining if anything
BobOjedaFan: you’re the one welching
Tokyo!!: I said " > 21"
BobOjedaFan: in my mind I saw this as if she isn’t 22 I win, you were undoubtedly thinking the same
Tokyo!!: you said "AT MOST"
Tokyo!!: meaning < 21
BobOjedaFan: I knew she wasn’t 22
BobOjedaFan: because I knew she was younger than us
Tokyo!!: but she’s over 21
Tokyo!!: ship me $5 plz
BobOjedaFan: because I remember looking at it yrs ago and noting it
BobOjedaFan: I OBVIOIUSLY meant not 22 and so did you
BobOjedaFan: I'm not giving you $5
BobOjedaFan: you should be paying me
Tokyo!!: omfg
Tokyo!!: settle this in pogchat
Tokyo!!: I hope someone is there
BobOjedaFan: I was gonna try and stipulate that stuff too but you were like "answer in 5 seconds"
BobOjedaFan: I knew nonsense like this would happen
Tokyo!!: well I didn’t want you to look it up
BobOjedaFan: I wasn’t gonna look it up ass
Tokyo!!: that’s it we'll settle this in pogcourt
BobOjedaFan: I'm not abiding by their decision
BobOjedaFan: because if they take you’re side they’ll be wrong
Tokyo!!: LOL
BobOjedaFan: there’s no way I'm ever giving you 5 dollars for this
Tokyo!!: that’s not how court works you d-bag
BobOjedaFan: when you saw 1986 you instantly thought you lost
Tokyo!!: you get an impartial judge
Tokyo!!: thought I did
Tokyo!!: then I realized
Tokyo!!: her bday passed
BobOjedaFan: then you were like wait, I can get him on a technicality
Tokyo!!: that’s not a technicality!
Tokyo!!: I said > 21
Tokyo!!: meaning over 21
Tokyo!!: she is
Tokyo!!: she’s legal
BobOjedaFan: no you meant 22
Tokyo!!: you said <21
Tokyo!!: meaning not- legal
BobOjedaFan: whenever people say that they mean one age more
Tokyo!!: no that’s such [censored]
BobOjedaFan: you are so ridiculous
Tokyo!!: me?
Tokyo!!: omfg
BobOjedaFan: when I say SHE IS 21 AT MOST
Tokyo!!: I said >21
BobOjedaFan: I mean her age is 21
BobOjedaFan: when someone asks Amanda how old are you
Tokyo!!: meaning her maximum age is 21 yrs 0 days
BobOjedaFan: she says "I'm 21"
BobOjedaFan: so basically you have me saying she was 20
BobOjedaFan: I never would a have said that
Tokyo!!: at most 21 = max age of 21 yrs 0 days
BobOjedaFan: because I THOUGTH SHE WAS 21
BobOjedaFan: I vaguely remembered her being 1 yr younger than me
BobOjedaFan: if I had to go with 20 I would not have taken the bet
Tokyo!!: this is such bs omfgz
BobOjedaFan: you are bs
BobOjedaFan: I thought you were joking at 1st, that’s how ridiculous what you’re saying is
Tokyo!!: omg >21 means over 21
Tokyo!!: she is
BobOjedaFan: saying she’s 21, which is what I said
BobOjedaFan: means 21 0 days to 21 365 days
BobOjedaFan: that’s ALWAYS what that means in common speak
Tokyo!!: you said
Tokyo!!: she is at most 21
BobOjedaFan: because I was trying to make a pt
Tokyo!!: meaning she cannot be any higher than 21
Tokyo!!: you accepted the bet on me saying >21
BobOjedaFan: I kind of knew in the back of my head she was exactly 21
BobOjedaFan: and I knew that would be a win for me
Tokyo!!: then don’t bet!
Tokyo!!: that’s not a win for you
BobOjedaFan: you didn’t explain what you meant
Tokyo!!: because that’s >21
BobOjedaFan: and the reason you didn’t explain was because you meant 22 too
BobOjedaFan: you thought she was like 25
BobOjedaFan: and didn’t think you’d lose
BobOjedaFan: then when you realized you lost you tried to pull this [censored]
BobOjedaFan: I'm never paying you $5 for this ever, and if anything you should be paying me

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sounds like a split

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mods move to SMP plz

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BobO wins IMO.

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sounds like a split

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this is interesting

I need to think about it for a minute

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Ryannnn23: i hate bobo, but i think he's getting robbed on this one if he doesn't walk out ahead :P

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the key is solving these things is that you absolutely DO NOT GO BY INTENT

the only thing you can go by is what the actual verbage is imo

21 AT MOST means less than 21, period imo

Tokyo wins

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bobo wins.
Bobo never bet that she was at most 21. Tokyo bet that she was >21.

The American system is to use whole years for ages. The only times you hear of people is when talking about records for youngest sports person to do X.

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uh, maybe if you're in a court of law, not when you're two friends. When you're among friends, even if they are as nitty as tokyo and bobo, then you absolutely go by intent.

Tokyo essentially bet that Bynes was 22 or over, and not paying bobo here will bring upon him years of terrible karma

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21 AT MOST means less than 21, period imo

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21 at most means "equal to or less than 21" IMO.

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Bobo is right here.. Saying 21 at most means not 22.

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the key is solving these things is that you absolutely DO NOT GO BY INTENT

the only thing you can go by is what the actual verbage is imo

21 AT MOST means less than 21, period imo

Tokyo wins

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In common speak it does not mean that. When someone asks you your age and you are 21, you say you are 21. You are always 'older' than what your answer is. If they asked you "are you older than 21" you would say 'no.' He bet that she was older then 21, that means 22. Without it specified that's what it has to mean. In a verbal contract there is definately room for interpretation of what the words meant. That is obviously what they meant.

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**Corollary.**
We all lose.

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this is retarded and not worth a thread. bob's just an attention whore.

i said ">21" meaning if she was in any way under 21, bob wins. that was my intent if you're going to be gay like that. someone who is under 21 is 20 years 364 days 23 hrs 59 mins or younger, and anyone else is >21.

edit: the reason i thought i initially lost is because i thought she was 20 as per reading 1986. then i realized her bday had passed.

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the key is solving these things is that you absolutely DO NOT GO BY INTENT

the only thing you can go by is what the actual verbage is imo

21 AT MOST means less than 21, period imo

Tokyo wins

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In common speak it does not mean that. When someone asks you your age and you are 21, you say you are 21. You are always 'older' than what your answer is. If they asked you "are you older than 21" you would say 'no.' He bet that she was older then 21, that means 22. Without it specified that's what it has to mean. In a verbal contract there is definately room for interpretation of what the words meant. That is obviously what they meant.

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I think you make a pretty good argument.

But she IS certainly older than 21 and I don't see Tokyo can lose regardless of what his intent was. He said she was older than 21 and she is.

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**Corollary.**
We all lose.

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I just lost.

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this is retarded and not worth a thread. bob's just an attention whore.

i said ">21" meaning if she was in any way under 21, bob wins. that was my intent if you're going to be gay like that. someone who is under 21 is 20 years 364 days 23 hrs 59 mins or younger, and anyone else is >21.

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Sure, thats what you said goddamnit until you thought of a loophole...

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tokyo will go bald by 30, the karma gods will make sure of it

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Tokyo!!: 1986
Tokyo!!: god damn it

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I think Tokyo knows he was screwed, then realized he could get real technical and maybe argue his way out of it.

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this is retarded and not worth a thread. bob's just an attention whore.

i said ">21" meaning if she was in any way under 21, bob wins. that was my intent if you're going to be gay like that. someone who is under 21 is 20 years 364 days 23 hrs 59 mins or younger, and anyone else is >21.

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Sure, thats what you said goddamnit until you thought of a loophole...

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already addressed.

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idiots, i addressed that in the edit. i type faster than i think

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tokyo will go bald by 30, the karma gods will make sure of it

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doubtful

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someone who is under 21 is 20 years 364 days 23 hrs 59 mins or younger, and anyone else is >21.


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How old is someone who is 21 years, 0 days, 0 hrs, 0 mins? Who wins then?

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I posted a 3:23 and you edited at 3:23 so it wasn't already addressed when I posted. Oh wait I forgot... "=" = ">" to you

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Tokyo, your point is off because 1986 --> 2007 you would initially think she has already had her 21st birthday, obviously.

My first thought would be "sweet, must be 21" not "hmm.. oh well.. oh wait maybe she was born in first half of year!"

Thats why it looks like you are taking an angle here.

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thinking about it further

BobO said 21 AT MOST
Tokyo said > 21

this is obvious.

She is greater than 21, Tokyo wins.

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Dustin, how old are you?

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wtf, bobo wins

A: guess my age and win $50!
B: 24
A: nope, 24 and a half lol loser

if you wanted 21.2 yo to count, you should have said >= 21

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dustin, you sound like a real fun guy to hang out with... :P

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someone who is under 21 is 20 years 364 days 23 hrs 59 mins or younger, and anyone else is >21.


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How old is someone who is 21 years, 0 days, 0 hrs, 0 mins? Who wins then?

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bob would win. i said >21, not >=21.

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Dustin, thats nuts.

Common english says that if someone is no older than 21 then as long as its before the 22nd birthday you're fine.

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OMG this is such a BoostedJ type of argument. The winner is absolutely clear to me. There is no split, I can't even see what the argument could possibly be for a split. All you can look at is the words before the bet was made. These two lines tell the whole tale:

BobOjedaFan: and Amanda Bynes is like 21 at most

Tokyo!!: I say > 21

Bobo is saying that she is no older than twenty one, or exactly twenty-one. Tokyo says she is older than twenty-one, which in the context of the conversation clearly means twenty-two or older. Bobo wins.

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The real proof here is if someone asked HER how old she was, she'd say 21.

This technicality garbage is lame, and this thread sucks but will keep going because tokyo/bobo are attention whores. They know this is all lame, and they've probably already settled it.

I really think this thread needs pics of Amanda Bynes

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thinking about it further

BobO said 21 AT MOST
Tokyo said > 21

this is obvious.

She is greater than 21, Tokyo wins.

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orly?

if i have the same birthday as amanda bynes and you asked my age, i would say "21". and then tokyo would lose

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The real proof here is if someone asked HER how old she was, she'd say 21.

This technicality garbage is lame, and this thread sucks but will keep going because tokyo/bobo are attention whores. They know this is all lame, and they've probably already settled it.

I really think this thread needs pics of Amanda Bynes

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exactly

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Tokyo, your point is off because 1986 --> 2007 you would initially think she has already had her 21st birthday, obviously.

My first thought would be "sweet, must be 21" not "hmm.. oh well.. oh wait maybe she was born in first half of year!"

Thats why it looks like you are taking an angle here.

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In a vacuum yes. But my birthday is in 1985 and I am still currently 21. So I automatically think 1986=20 still. In my head, years run not from jan 1st to jan 1st, but from my bday to my bday [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You aren't 21, though.. You are 21.75225432

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The real proof here is if someone asked HER how old she was, she'd say 21.

This technicality garbage is lame, and this thread sucks but will keep going because tokyo/bobo are attention whores. They know this is all lame, and they've probably already settled it.

I really think this thread needs pics of Amanda Bynes

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LOL. I was waiting for someone to say that about pics. And Tokyo isnt the attention whore, hes just wrong. I'm the attention whore and right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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amanda bynes is fugly

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Funny how no games get going but this thread pops up and everyone goes nuts with responses.